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I'd fuck her. Him. Whatever.
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tinyE: I'd fuck her. Him. Whatever.
What are the laws relating to octopi / tentacle kin intercourse in your area?
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tinyE: I'd fuck her. Him. Whatever.
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Shadowstalker16: What are the laws relating to octopi / tentacle kin intercourse in your area?
I really don't care. :D
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arrjayjee: Thanks for the clarification. No, I'm not attracted to men with boobs. I've been told since I'm not attracted to men or transexuals that I'm homo/transphobic. Bear in mind I don't care what a person's gender alignment or sexual preference is, it's just my sexual preference that seems to be wrong because I have an opinion on it.
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dtgreene: Here's a question: Suppose you meat an attractive redheaded woman with boobs, and you go out on a few dates with her, and you get along really well with her. She then reveals that she is a trans woman; that she was assigned male at birth. For purposes of this discussion, assume that she hasn't had genital surgery (in other words, she still has a penis), but plans to. How would you react in this situation?

(Of note, note that asking somebody whether that person has had surgery or plans to is rude in nearly all contexts, so don't do that.)
I would say, as politely as possible, thanks but no thanks. I like girl parts. I'm not sexually attracted to penises and since, for me, sexual attraction is at least one-third of a relationship I wouldn't want to continue the relationship with someone I'm not sexually attracted to, or capable of having sex with. Butt stuff doesn't count because it doesn't do it for me. I wouldn't hate the person or condemn them and I would, if at all possible, stay friends with them.

For the inevitable follow-up of "what if they were post-op", the answer is still no, because while I don't want kids now, I do want them later, and I want to have them with my partner in the usual way. I'm boring and vanilla, I know.

And since the current trend is all about being tolerant of people regardless of gender or sexual preference, I would say that cis women are my fetish and I will thank you for not shaming me for my sexual preference. :P
Post edited January 11, 2016 by arrjayjee
Why did GOG change the time of day when sale changover happens? I used to rely on them not changing until 9AM US Eastern so I could get them in the morning as I arrived to work. I've missed two now that I thought, "Eh, I'll complete my transaction in the morning."
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arrjayjee: For the inevitable follow-up of "what if they were post-op", the answer is still no, because while I don't want kids now, I do want them later, and I want to have them with my partner in the usual way. I'm boring and vanilla, I know.
Suppose that medical science has advanced to the point where it is possible for a trans woman to receive uterus and ovary transplants, and for such transplants to actually produce eggs on their own, allowing you and her to have kids the usual way. Would that change your mind?

Also, suppose you are in a relationship with a cisgender woman and she tells you that she has a medical condition that prevents her from becoming pregnant. Would that make you break off the relationship?
eat ORGANIC only!

stop the use of GMOs and pesticides!!!!!
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arrjayjee: For the inevitable follow-up of "what if they were post-op", the answer is still no, because while I don't want kids now, I do want them later, and I want to have them with my partner in the usual way. I'm boring and vanilla, I know.
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dtgreene: Suppose that medical science has advanced to the point where it is possible for a trans woman to receive uterus and ovary transplants, and for such transplants to actually produce eggs on their own, allowing you and her to have kids the usual way. Would that change your mind?

Also, suppose you are in a relationship with a cisgender woman and she tells you that she has a medical condition that prevents her from becoming pregnant. Would that make you break off the relationship?
At the risk of sounding like a bigot (I am not, I assure you), I classify someone based on their biological sex (chromosome birth) rather than what someone thinks they are. Throughout my relatively brief time here on earth I have interacted with or heard stories about people who have often wanted to identify with something that they are clearly not (different races, sexes, even species). Recently, I interacted with someone who claimed to be "transabled" recently. Poor guy identified as being disabled even though he had no natural disability to note. He sought to raise enough money to have an operation to cut off his leg because of his identification with being disabled. Just because I disagree with this man's classification of being disabled, does not mean that I cannot enjoy being his friend (as an example), but I would share my own viewpoint on this issue with him as I am concerned for his well-being. The same could be said towards my view on transgenderism. I guess this is a long way of saying that I agree with Shapiro's assessment of this issue - that facts are not determined by feelings. I may feel a certain affinity towards another classification, but that feeling does not determine the facts (I may feel like I identify with the physically disabled, but that feeling does not change the fact that I naturally suffer from no physical disability).

All this to say, that I can understand where arrjayjee is coming from. Certainly most guys I've spoken to about Bruce Jenner seem to both acknowledge that he is a "woman" but would never consider dating him for some strange reason (still not clear why - if he is just as much a woman as my wife is, I do not see the harm of a little date but I think it is clear that the individuals in question still make that distinction even though they claim not to).

I certainly hope for a productive conversation on this, but I have had a hit or a miss time with responses to such sentiments. Some people call this bigotry (even though I am open for having a discussion on this) other people are a bit more understanding and actually want to converse about such things.

Regardless, thank you for reading!
Post edited January 11, 2016 by AccurateArt
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arrjayjee: For the inevitable follow-up of "what if they were post-op", the answer is still no, because while I don't want kids now, I do want them later, and I want to have them with my partner in the usual way. I'm boring and vanilla, I know.
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dtgreene: Suppose that medical science has advanced to the point where it is possible for a trans woman to receive uterus and ovary transplants, and for such transplants to actually produce eggs on their own, allowing you and her to have kids the usual way. Would that change your mind?

Also, suppose you are in a relationship with a cisgender woman and she tells you that she has a medical condition that prevents her from becoming pregnant. Would that make you break off the relationship?
Now you begin to sound a bit intolerant towards natural-style loving vanilla hetero men.
No kink-shaming here!

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drealmer7: eat ORGANIC only!

stop the use of GMOs and pesticides!!!!!
This will become increasingly hard if TTIP comes through and since people are now distracted by the "sexual assault on infidels"-flashmobs, not enough people care anymore.
Post edited January 11, 2016 by Klumpen0815
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AccurateArt: At the risk of sounding like a bigot (I am not, I assure you), I classify someone based on their biological sex (chromosome birth) rather than what someone thinks they are.
That classification is severely flawed. What if a person's birth assigned sex does not match that person's chromosomes? What if somebody's sex chromosomes are something other than XX or XY? What if a person's cells are a mixture of XX and XY cells? (These situations are, in fact, things that actually happen.)

Also, see this paper for an example of an XY woman becoming pregnant:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2190741/
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AccurateArt: At the risk of sounding like a bigot (I am not, I assure you), I classify someone based on their biological sex (chromosome birth) rather than what someone thinks they are.
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dtgreene: That classification is severely flawed.
That's like... your opinion.
Be tolerant towards people that want their partner natural and they'll be tolerant towards you.

I wouldn't want a girl with lots of piercings, tattoos, dyed hair, make up etc... so guess how compatible even more intrusive body-mods are to this "fetish".
How we treat our body says a lot about how we perceive, accept and attend to ourselves.
Post edited January 11, 2016 by Klumpen0815
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AccurateArt: At the risk of sounding like a bigot (I am not, I assure you), I classify someone based on their biological sex (chromosome birth) rather than what someone thinks they are.
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dtgreene: That classification is severely flawed. What if a person's birth assigned sex does not match that person's chromosomes? What if somebody's sex chromosomes are something other than XX or XY? What if a person's cells are a mixture of XX and XY cells? (These situations are, in fact, things that actually happen.)

Also, see this paper for an example of an XY woman becoming pregnant:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2190741/
I agree with you, there are special cases that occur. The presence of special cases do not change the fact that overwhelmingly people are born either biologically male or biologically female via their chromosomes. Just because the special cases exist does not mean that determining gender based on chromosomes is somehow invalid.
So what's... oh.
Very nice :)
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drealmer7: eat ORGANIC only!

stop the use of GMOs and pesticides!!!!!
I've heard conspiracy theories by some that Monsanto is trying to take out Chipotle who went GMO free. This is semi-interesting as Chipotle has been having issues with foodborne-illness: http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-01-11/chipotle-outbreaks-send-wall-street-searching-for-price-bottom

Some people online have made claims that Monsanto has been pulling strings to introduce foodbourne illness into the food.