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Breja: Whyat would be special about this to warrant making it? A pad that would be in permanent beta? Would it have special buttons for features that only worked for a few days and then were promptly forgotten?
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zeogold: Even if it managed to be a decent controller, that begs the question of who would buy it.
especially when the xbox 360 and one controllers have been working fine for this purpose for a decade by now
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timppu: I hope not, if it would require the use of an online client (like Galaxy) for full functionality. I don't want PC gaming peripherals becoming store or service specific, soon we will have different gamepads for Steam, Windows Store, EA Origin, UPlay etc... Why not then have separate graphics cards as well for different games bought from different stores?
Yeah! And then we could have companies build specialised computers for each store, so we get a SteamMachine, GOGMachine, OriginMachine, etc. It'll be great!
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zeogold: Even if it managed to be a decent controller, that begs the question of who would buy it.
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snowkatt: especially when the xbox 360 and one controllers have been working fine for this purpose for a decade by now
My thoughts exactly.
It'd have to be markedly superior in many ways and would require GOG to spend money developing it that they don't have.
Post edited September 06, 2016 by zeogold
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snowkatt: especially when the xbox 360 and one controllers have been working fine for this purpose for a decade by now
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zeogold: My thoughts exactly.
It'd have to be markedly superior in many ways and would require GOG to spend money developing it that they don't have.
but to be markedly superior well GOG would need stuff they dont have :D (even regardless of the initial development funding imho)

they lack knowledge :D - i mean Microsoft develops the xbox controller since 2001 ^^ - not easy to close such a gap quickly ^^
They lack economics of scale as they never could produce in the same quantities as their competitors if they want to expect to actually sell their stock ^^
And well they lack a selling point ^^ - they dont have a fancy one in a lifetime experience controller game, they dont have big screen like steam, they dont have VR like steam nor do they have the capacity to develop something like that ^^. Nor would it be possible to get developers on board to develop for a niche controller.

They also lack a "pricing" point. I mean the xbox 360 wireless sells for 30$ and even less - it's impossible to undercut this with a quality product and to charge more you would have to offer an added benefit which is hard to create and even specialists like Logitech have a really hard time on the general "controller" market (except their racing wheels) ^^
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TT_TT_TT_TT: And well they lack a selling point ^^
But...but...but...it has Theodore the GOGbear on the front!
...no?
What if we get Judas to sign the first 100 copies in Sharpie?
Post edited September 06, 2016 by zeogold
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TT_TT_TT_TT: And well they lack a selling point ^^
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zeogold: But...but...but...it has Theodore the GOGbear on the front!
...no?
What if we get Judas to sign the first 100 copies in Sharpie?
it has a GOG bear on front?!?!?!
Sold! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OnB1TgxgwEA
GOG should make a VR headset.

They could call it...GOGgles.
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Bouchart: GOG should make a VR headset.

They could call it...GOGgles.
Remind me the punishment for bad puns please. Is it the comfy chair or the fluffy pillow?
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Bouchart: GOG should make a VR headset.

They could call it...GOGgles.
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JMich: Remind me the punishment for bad puns please. Is it the comfy chair or the fluffy pillow?
We lock him up in the pungeon.
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tinyE: The Lego games. All the driving/racing games. The platformers and metroidvanias. The shootem ups.
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Breja: The Lego games... maybe? I don't know- the few I played worked perfectly well with K+M. Driving/racing- don't play them so I wouldn't know. There's not so many here though. Platformers- I'd rather watch the Catwoman movie again than ever play a platofrmer with a gamepad again. Shootem ups- I don't play them, so I couldn't say.
"Who the fuck needs gamepads? I don't play those games, so there's no use of pads existing." Okay then. That makes total sense. *shakes head in bewilderment*
Post edited September 07, 2016 by mistermumbles
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Breja: The Lego games... maybe? I don't know- the few I played worked perfectly well with K+M. Driving/racing- don't play them so I wouldn't know. There's not so many here though. Platformers- I'd rather watch the Catwoman movie again than ever play a platofrmer with a gamepad again. Shootem ups- I don't play them, so I couldn't say.
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mistermumbles: "Who the fuck needs gamepads? I don't play those games, so there's no use of pads existing." Okay then. That makes total sense. *shakes head in bewilderment*
"Who the fuck needs to read a whole post? I don't do that, I just ignore the point someone was trying to make and pretend they were saying something else!" Okay then. That makes total sense. *shakes head in bewilderment*

You may want to try reading my post again, and this time note the part where I explicitly state, that I'm not arguing with whether gamepads are usefull, but wonder what would be the point of GOG making one, when there already are plenty for those who want them to choose from.
Post edited September 07, 2016 by Breja
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Breja: The Lego games... maybe? I don't know- the few I played worked perfectly well with K+M. Driving/racing- don't play them so I wouldn't know. There's not so many here though. Platformers- I'd rather watch the Catwoman movie again than ever play a platofrmer with a gamepad again. Shootem ups- I don't play them, so I couldn't say.
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mistermumbles: "Who the fuck needs gamepads? I don't play those games, so there's no use of pads existing." Okay then. That makes total sense. *shakes head in bewilderment*
I think the point he's making is that there's not very many games on here which people would want a gamepad for, not that HE doesn't want a gamepad.
Edit: I really should learn to refresh pages before posting.
Post edited September 07, 2016 by zeogold
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mistermumbles: What I don't get is the people who are vehemently against even just the idea of possibly needing a gamepad to play.
Well, gamepads are designed to the idea that you don't have a desk in use so you have to keep the whole controller in your hands. That's why they are designed the way they are, and are always a bit of an anomaly in PC gaming (where you usually are using a desk of some sort), Apart from that there isn't really anything making them the best controller for any game. You don't see gamepads on e.g. coin op arcade cabinets, which historically always had the best and most authentic controllers for each game type (wheels and pedals for racing games, arcade sticks for fighting games etc.).

Also I think it is a bit of a straw man to say people claim kb+m is the best for everything. I don't think anyone would suggest that for e.g. PC racing games or flight sims. After all, that is why PCs have flight sticks, even full HOTAS systems.

That said, I am personally not against gamepads (unless someone tries to force me to use one on FPS games, yikes!). I have several gamepads, a gamepad is an ok all-around controller for many types of games, e.g. racing games and platforming games, and others where I might also use a flight stick. Since many (even PC) games are nowadays specifically optimized to be used with e.g. an XBox controller, I guess it is easiest to just use one then with such games.
Post edited September 07, 2016 by timppu
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xyamag: Will GOG release a gamepad like steam.
Why would they? Valve had a good reason to create a game controller, GOG doesn't really.

Valve is a big company with a tonne of revenue coming in that can afford to take on large scale experimental projects. Valve didn't like the direction that Microsoft Windows was going in towards the future and thought it may try to choke out platforms like Steam, so Valve wanted to ensure that they have their bases covered in the future and neither rely on the Windows platform nor necessarily the PC hardware platform. They decided to design their own gaming platform to be essentially a PC but specifically designed for gaming and to try to make it so that it would meet the needs of both PC gamers and console gamers together. The problem with PC games in a console context however is that many of them simply do not work well with game controllers if at all. So Valve decided to try to solve that problem by making the Steam controller, so that their Steam Machines could be able to run practically anything and be a nice controller bridge between PC style gaming and console style gaming.

GOG on the other hand, to date at least has not announced any plans to release their own hardware platform, nor their own Linux distribution, nor have they expressed any concerns similar to those behind Valve's above plan. GOG isn't a hardware design company and doesn't have the kind of money to spend on experimental projects like that.

Steam Machines and SteamOS seem to have made virtually no impact on the gaming scene to date. SteamOS doesn't even register at all on Steam's own "steam stats" page, just being amalgamated in with Linux at 0.8% or something like that.

Without an incentive similar to Valve's rationale for the Steam Controller and the wherewithal to pursue such a project without any concern as to the financial risks, there's about as much of a likelihood of GOG making their own custom game controller as there is of GOG making their own custom microwave oven.

5 or 10 years from now depending on how well GOG and CD Projekt are doing as a company and financially and depending on what the PC gaming scene looks like at the time, perhaps they'll be in a more Valve-like position and if they feel threatened by Microsoft or whatever at that time maybe some kind of hardware thing could be viable but I rather doubt it.

There are about a billion things that are a 10-fold magnitude of importance greater than something like that which GOG could be doing on the website, Galaxy client and other stuff directly a part of their core business that are mostly not being done right now due to lack of resources, so fluff things like that or a GOG VR headset or any other expensive ideas are just not likely to be on the radar now if ever.
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Bouchart: GOG should make a VR headset.

They could call it...GOGgles.
Ok, both you and tinyE made me blow an unexpected snot bubble reading your posts. LOL
Post edited September 07, 2016 by skeletonbow