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Mawthra: ... Ashen was a literal "right click, copy, paste" and it will run on any machine without doing anything else... and you can also do that for every GOG game you install... in the root of a GOG install for, say, Darksiders III (see attached)... the majority of files are 100% not necessary for the game to run, they're just the install remnants from GOG... the ones highlighted (in the screenshot) are ALL you need to run the game... copy those to any machine and you'll be on your way without even knowing what a registry is...
I see. That sounds very promising. However, I'm not sure that really works on every machine. I heard of Visual C++ runtimes that might be required or DX11 drivers and I really like these desktop shortcuts or uninstall entries. I wonder if really everyone can do that. Is there a guarantee that this will always work, maybe an official OK from the devs/publishers?

I know I set the bar relatively high, but as a paying customer with potentially not much computer knowledge I just want some reassurances that this method really works.

amok: ... I have done it couple of times... it was no trouble at all, quite straight forward... anyway, most DRM free games on steam do not need any regediting at all, just copy-paste the folder. I zip them for storage, personally.
Okay, I agree they are DRM free then, if this really reliably works. Zipping or copy-and-past a folder is also easy enough that I would trust anyone can do that.

There seem to be really DRM free games on Steam and Epic (not just ones that do not need the client to run) which can be "installed" on new computers.
Post edited 5 days ago by Trilarion
The problem with unofficially DRM-free games is that should a later patch add DRM, it would be rather unlikely that I would be able to get my money back. Even assuming that no major bugs or improvements would have been left by then, I would have to keep the game installed and check for updates daily and test each version for DRM before archiving the installation folder to be sure that I didn't miss the last DRM-free version.

With officially DRM-free games the only major risks of not making daily checks for updates are to forget to download the installers at all before the store is shutdown and needing to download the full installers for latest versions if the chain of delta patches does not extend from my archived installer versions to the current versions.

GOG's support might even be able to provide some older missed installer for me if I need it for old abandoned mods or just to have fun with unbalanced skills etc, whereas an online store that doesn't host offline installers might not have any means to help me even if the publisher has not yet added DRM on later versions of that game.
Post edited 5 days ago by JAAHAS
Mawthra: I was able to launch the game without the Epic Games Launcher open and the game didn't try to launch the Epic Games Launcher when launching the game from the install folder's main EXE... this is good and bad, I guess... because if they're releasing into the wild with no DRM and Annapurna has released games here on GOG before, yet nothing... could be a timed exclusive there or a forever Epic Games Store and Windows Store exclusive which would suck for GOG :(

Just throwing this info out there in case anyone wants to play it, but doesn't want a DRM-laced version... even the multiplayer worked with just launching the game by itself
Can you still play Ashen, even after you uninstalled the Epic launcher?
GOG Games aren't fully DRM free, because I don't have the source code for the firmware in my cable modem or router as they're proprietary software, as is the BIOS in my computer.

FreakOramaXD: Can you still play Ashen, even after you uninstalled the Epic launcher?
100% Yes. Game got its first update a day or so ago and I tested it and there’s still no DRM in it... I launch it direct from the EXE because launching through the Epic Launcher nets you nothing... doesn’t have an Overlay, achievements, screenshot function, cloud saves, etc., so it’s pointless to start the Epic Launcher first.
And according to your definition of DRM-free, Subnautica, which is now free until Christmas on the Epic Games Store has no DRM in the game itself... can launch the game without needing to have the Epic Games Launcher open nor does it try to launch the Epic Games Launcher if you start the game from the game's main EXE
I'm so old I remember when DRM meant things like "You can only download this 5 times" or "you can only ever install this on one machine EVER." The idea was that you didn't really own what you bought. You couldn't, say, burn it onto a CD and then dust it off and copy the files back onto your computer 20 years later. Now, I hear if you have to download it through something other than a browser, that's DRM? You kids don't know how good you have it!
Mailanka: Now, I hear if you have to download it through something other than a browser, that's DRM? You kids don't know how good you have it!
I think the problem is, if it isn't sold specifically as being DRM-Free, then for a brand new service with a lot of potential unknowns, you need to do a lot of time-consuming testing. Eg, if a game had no online component and yet contained some offline CEG-like protection where the original .EXE was locked to your CPU / motherboard (may be possible with an offline check), that's something that's only detectable if you have and test on a second PC with different hardware. Simply disconnecting from the net and testing on the same PC isn't enough.

I own a few games on Steam which are technically DRM-Free like Portal and Half-Life. To me it's "good enough" if after the first download, I can zip them up and unzip & play them in future on a different PC without any client / online checks / restrictions. That is after all what's already necessary for old disc based games that aren't on GOG. But unlike GOG's offline guarantee, I did need to test them, and not everyone has the time / inclination to do that, hence why some form of "guarantee" is highly desirable for many.
Post edited Yesterday by AB2012