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The investigative journalist Oliver Stone from Italy has released an independent research film "Ukraine on Fire", which trailer is now available. It contains both research, as well as a lot of interviews with affected entities.

Letting you know, in case you are interested in research and documentation on subject. Spread the word, if you find this interesting, because I seriously doubt West media will ever mention this.

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Trailer
Post edited June 17, 2016 by Lin545
Well, the trailer has a very obvious "aliens are among us, wake up people!" leaning. I don't have high hopes for this.

You want an objectively good documentary about a nation at war with itself?

Here's the full thing.
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Titanium: ...
Nice! Thanks for sharing!
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Titanium: You want an objectively good documentary about a nation at war with itself?

Here's the full thing.
Thanks. Bookmarked for later viewing although I always doubt the general concept of "objectivity". Do you have another good documentary on this which is not coming from a Western source?
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Titanium: You want an objectively good documentary about a nation at war with itself?

Here's the full thing.
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catpower1980: Thanks. Bookmarked for later viewing although I always doubt the general concept of "objectivity". Do you have another good documentary on this which is not coming from a Western source?
Yes, I understand what you mean. In this case, I meant objectively as in unbiased, to the point, without some outside twist etc.

I think this particular documentary is good, for the most part, because it gives all sides a mostly fair representation and incorporates their commentaries regarding various events around the break-up. Well, it really tries to do that, anyway. On any given issue, you could get a pile-up of contradictory opinions from four or five sides in the conflict.

It's important to note that the series aired about six months after the Dayton peace accords (1995), a touch and go peace treaty for Bosnia that against all ods largely held. As such, it doesn't thread on the aftermath, the NATO bombings, and the massacres.

I personally think the series are good for what they try to show, but you'll have to judge yourself how unbiased they really are.
So the same director who thinks JFK, the guy behind the Vietnam War and the Bay of Pigs Invasion, was a pacifist and was killed by a CIA/Gay Mafia/Communist conspiracy to prevent him from ending the war, now thinks the CIA is behind everything going on in Ukraine?

I wouldn't trust a documentary from Oliver Stone.
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Titanium: It's important to note that the series aired about six months after the Dayton peace accords (1995), a touch and go peace treaty for Bosnia that against all ods largely held. As such, it doesn't thread on the aftermath, the NATO bombings, and the massacres.
Thanks for the remark ;)
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DaCostaBR: now thinks the CIA is behind everything going on in Ukraine?
I have a pro-Russian book about Ukraine (I haven't read it yet) and I guess it's one of the "alternative" view on the conflict. After all, recently one of the American commander of NATO was telling EU countries to get prepared to get to war against Russia even if Europeans citizens doesn't give a damn about it. If you dig into the archives of the forum there was a dedicated thread where Russiand and Westerners were arguing about Ukraine situation.
Post edited June 18, 2016 by catpower1980
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catpower1980: I have a pro-Russian book about Ukraine (I haven't read it yet) and I guess it's one of the "alternative" view on the conflict. After all, recently one of the American commander of NATO was telling EU countries to get prepared to get to war against Russia even if Europeans citizens doesn't give a damn about it. If you dig into the archives of the forum there was a dedicated thread where Russiand and Westerners were arguing about Ukraine situation.
That's not the point though. I know better than to discuss politics on the internet.

The fact is Oliver Stone is a conspiracy theorist and completely unreliable on matters of history and politics. If by some reason you do agree with his conclusion here, you should see it as the case of even a broken clock being right twice a day, and not the resulting work of a fair and evenhanded documentarian, because that he is not.
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Titanium: Well, the trailer has a very obvious "aliens are among us, wake up people!" leaning. I don't have high hopes for this.

You want an objectively good documentary about a nation at war with itself?

Here's the full thing.
I'd say Zionists in the Ukraine is most definitely an "aliens are among us" sort of thing.
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DaCostaBR: So the same director who thinks JFK, the guy behind the Vietnam War and the Bay of Pigs Invasion, was a pacifist and was killed by a CIA/Gay Mafia/Communist conspiracy to prevent him from ending the war, now thinks the CIA is behind everything going on in Ukraine?

I wouldn't trust a documentary from Oliver Stone.
It's neocons, actually, who now reside in both the Republican and Democratic parties, and there are a large number of reliable sources to be found on this subject.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kMsLiDTv5ls
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DaCostaBR: So the same director who thinks JFK, the guy behind the Vietnam War and the Bay of Pigs Invasion, was a pacifist and was killed by a CIA/Gay Mafia/Communist conspiracy to prevent him from ending the war, now thinks the CIA is behind everything going on in Ukraine?

I wouldn't trust a documentary from Oliver Stone.
This pretty much sums up my thoughts on Mr. Stone. I would not be surprised if someone in Russia is financing this film.

Oh and the fact that they demonize Ukrainian patriots as "neo-Nazis" just because they do not lick the boots of the international bankers and globalists shows the lack of credibility in this film.

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DaCostaBR: So the same director who thinks JFK, the guy behind the Vietnam War and the Bay of Pigs Invasion, was a pacifist and was killed by a CIA/Gay Mafia/Communist conspiracy to prevent him from ending the war, now thinks the CIA is behind everything going on in Ukraine?

I wouldn't trust a documentary from Oliver Stone.
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richlind33: It's neocons, actually, who now reside in both the Republican and Democratic parties, and there are a large number of reliable sources to be found on this subject.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kMsLiDTv5ls
RT is basically run by the Russian regime under Putin. That is hardly a reliable source of less biased information. I say "less biased" because all news is bias in some way. It is just a matter of how much, which way, and whether or not it includes significant measures of truth and properly shows the arguments of the other side if it does at all.

I will say that the term "neocon" is improper. The establishment of both parties are globalists who sell out the United States like with NAFTA and the TPP.
Post edited June 18, 2016 by infinite9
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richlind33: It's neocons, actually, who now reside in both the Republican and Democratic parties, and there are a large number of reliable sources to be found on this subject.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kMsLiDTv5ls
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infinite9: RT is basically run by the Russian regime under Putin. That is hardly a reliable source of less biased information. I say "less biased" because all news is bias in some way. It is just a matter of how much, which way, and whether or not it includes significant measures of truth and properly shows the arguments of the other side if it does at all.
The source is Scott Rickard, a former US intelligence officer, not RT, which is just a media outlet.

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infinite9: I will say that the term "neocon" is improper. The establishment of both parties are globalists who sell out the United States like with NAFTA and the TPP.
Since you seem to know nothing at all about neoconservatism, you might want to consider reading this article from the Israeli newspaper Haaretz.

http://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/white-man-s-burden-1.14110
Post edited June 18, 2016 by richlind33
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infinite9: RT is basically run by the Russian regime under Putin. That is hardly a reliable source of less biased information.
They made a video just for you ;)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SQQwBfux9i0
LOL (((Oliver Stone))). LOL
RT is something that US has been doing since decades. Most of "democracy" funds are funded directly or indirectly from US budget like Soros, Freedom House and so on with media such as The "Radio free/ Liberty $country_name". And, as you know, "who pays the lady - dances it".

For example the website of radio liberty (freedom is "svoboda" in russian) of Ukraine has been exposed multiple of times to post fakes and misguided information. Where RT differs is the percentage of truth - as in getting the facts straight from the scene, showing interviews uncut and without deviation of the meaning - is drastically higher, where most of state funded US media is propaganda weapon rather than media source.

Its perfectly right to distrust RT, just check you sources: check the background of those interviewed if its interview, check if the on spot interview to be uncut, unedited and consequent - check if the person rises concerns after the interview is published.

Its an absolute and pure BS to claim that Russia wants any kind of war or conflict with the west, only exception being very small imperialistic or radical groups, something that almost any country has. Its just a regional type of garbage.
Post edited June 18, 2016 by Lin545