Posted September 08, 2020

my name is catte
i touch your foods
Registered: Mar 2010
From United Kingdom

joppo
New User
Registered: Dec 2011
From Brazil
Posted September 08, 2020

If some of you don't care or want to see that kind of crap, more power to you but don't belittle me for wanting to keep my time and my inbox on the cleaner side of life. All I'm saying, we users should have an option to filter adult content like Valve does with Steam(that felt dirty to say...). On Steam, I set that option and I never see any of it. Been that way for years.
I have no problem with GOG listing adult titles and content. What I have a problem with is the lack of option to filter it out of my GOG experience.
Let's make it simple: if you are from the US and not a country where women regularly wear Burkas you were NOT exposed to "adult" content in that email. None of the images presented show anything risqué, the grossest thing being Larry Laffer in his undies and the naughtiest was Lula's ad with a woman fully clothed in skimpy clothes, but not much more suggestive than what I see many teenage girls IRL wearing on the streets. There wasn't adult text on the mail either.
Yes the games themselves might contain adult content, but that content wasn't shown in the email. You basically had nothing but a reminder those games exist and a few perfectly safe pictures. So as long as you realize "oh those are games I have no interest in, I'll make sure I don't open their page" and simply delete the email your delicate sensibilities will never be in any danger.
For the record, I kinda agree with a basic premise that it wouldn't be a bad thing to have more options to opt out of things that don't interest us. I just think your justification is, quite frankly, terrible. And your Appeal to Emotion™ might even backfire on you.
Edit: Huh on a reread I realize you were not the one who brought up the kids argument. Then I retract that part of my reply.
I still think this is a bit of an overreaction. If Gog was filling your inbox with undesirable content I'd be just up there with you, but I think one mail promoting games I have no desire for once in a blue moon isn't that outlandish. Just delete it and move on... You might have to press delete a couple more times per year, but that isn't so terrible.
Post edited September 08, 2020 by joppo

Timboli
Sharpest Tool On Shelf
Registered: May 2017
From Australia
Posted September 08, 2020

P.S. I'm not excusing 'adult' email promotions, just making sure you are not throwing the baby out with the bathwater. ;)
P.S.S. That said, I am not sure I am happy with the idea that killing is perfectly normal. It normally happens a lot, but there is nothing perfect about it. In a perfect world there would be no killing, for food or otherwise. You may end up with a perfectly delicious steak etc on your meal plate, but the ending of that animal's life, was less than perfect.
P.S.S.S. I am all for killing snakes, sharks, crocodiles, spiders and many other dangerous creatures though ... to help make the perfect world ... oh, and killing diseases too.
P.S.S.S.S. Actually, now I have thought more about it, I don't believe we can ever escape killing altogether, for surely if you can kill a tree, you can kill a carrot. And someone has to kill Gus, even though he's a fun guy.
Post edited September 08, 2020 by Timboli

IXOXI
New User
Registered: Sep 2012
From Czech Republic
Posted September 08, 2020

My reaction was only based on my astonishment how someone can fight again one natural thing and not two fight again something what is not normal in advance society (I do not judge whether it is good or bad, whether it make sense or not). Of course we must kill to survive (e.g. chicken), but to kill human is not common in nowadays society. Even if you would be let's say policeman (or something similar) it is force which use violence according to laws which do not have to be good for people (as can be seen in many dictatorship).
Moreover some people can be interested in it, I did not use mentioned offer myself, since I do not play such games, but I understand, that others may be interested in that. Everyone else will do what they want and live as they wish (as you wrote), but why should anybody force other to do something. right? And you wrote in your first post: "If it does not exist, it needs to.". In my county we say, treat others some way as you wish they would treat you.
If you would wrote, I would like to see possibility…. or it would be great if I could opt-out from adult offers…. etc….. People would accept it more kindly.

TheDudeLebowski
ThatGuyWithTheThing
Registered: Oct 2011
From Other
Posted September 08, 2020

I never understood why people defend children against something natural, but don't defend something what is not normal…
One day, they can wake up and realize, that it is not normal kill people…, but it is normal reproduce… They will be shocked!

It's perfectly acceptable in the western world to go out to a place, flirt with someone, and then maybe end up doing something sexual with them. How acceptable is it to go out and shoot people in the face randomly? Don't like random? Ok, how acceptable is it to go out as a civilian and shoot another one cause the latter angered the former in some way?
Yes, more filters would be perfect for some people, but, man, your reasoning needs recalibrating.
From what I've seen, I doubt there's anything anyone will say that can change another's strong opinion on a topic, no matter how the conversation goes.
So, just leave it at "I need more filters". No reason to justify it to anyone.

Carradice
Orlanthi
Registered: Mar 2013
From Spain
Posted September 08, 2020
Title of the post: Step in! Grown-ups only
First four words in the email: Spicy and humorous games
Whoever does not like spicy games, or strategy games, or role play games, or action games, or whatever kind of games, can select whether to open the related emails or not, based on the message text.
Alternatively, they can unsubscribe from the newsletter.
That is all
Ancient-Red-Dragon: Then that would be privileging the needs of anti-spicy customers over & above the needs of anti-other-stuff customers. And why should one group get special treatment and resources devoted to them, whilst everyone else does not get anything?
Breja: One reason: some people have kids. People who just find "adult" content offensive can just fuck right off for all I care, but I concede that someone may want to make their GOG account appropriate for their kids to use. Of course logically that should probably also apply to very violent games. But in this case it is an email, what is at stake.
First four words in the email: Spicy and humorous games
Whoever does not like spicy games, or strategy games, or role play games, or action games, or whatever kind of games, can select whether to open the related emails or not, based on the message text.
Alternatively, they can unsubscribe from the newsletter.
That is all


Post edited September 08, 2020 by Carradice

Carradice
Orlanthi
Registered: Mar 2013
From Spain

Breja
You're in my spot
Registered: Apr 2012
From Poland
Posted September 08, 2020

I don't "demand" any of it, and I understand why hiding part of their catalogue isn't exactly GOGs priority. I'm just saying it could be convenient.

Violent content (Is this a dagger which I see before me?)
Enforcement of non-democratic values (Empire what?)
Enforcement of war-mongering (conquering what?)
Exploitation of animals (Cavalry what?)
Discrimination based on beliefs, origins, lifestyle or anything else
Xenophobia and xenocide (starting with Space Invaders)
And so on and so on...
It is so good that we have a brain to pick and choose what we play or not

BlueMooner
Blue User
Registered: Jun 2012
From United States
Posted September 09, 2020
Religion. The US was founded by anti-sex crazies, the Puritans, and that anti-sex view has been maintained throughout our history by christianity.
I once heard someone describe the US as okay with violent media but having a big problem with sexual media, while Europe was the opposite, having a big problem with violent media but not sexual media. I think Europe has it right.
Hey, I got a call from this number?
I once heard someone describe the US as okay with violent media but having a big problem with sexual media, while Europe was the opposite, having a big problem with violent media but not sexual media. I think Europe has it right.
Hey, I got a call from this number?

joppo
New User
Registered: Dec 2011
From Brazil

toxicTom
Big Daddy
Registered: Feb 2009
From Germany
Posted September 09, 2020

Also all of Europe has been (mostly) Christian a tiny bit longer than the US, and while all the Abrahamic religions are not sex-friendly, it really seems to be a special problem with the Puritan franchise over there. Hell, I sometimes think the Catholics I know are out to properly sin so they have a proper repentance too.
I think the problem with violence per se is mostly in Germany. But Europeans are more hesitant to glorify war I guess - since it has stomped devastatingly across all countries of the Old Continent numerous times. Whereas the US - with nothing like the World Wars ever raging across their home turf - is quicker to picture war as heroic adventure through Hollywood or games.

Carradice
Orlanthi
Registered: Mar 2013
From Spain
Posted September 09, 2020

Violent content (Is this a dagger which I see before me?)
Enforcement of non-democratic values (Empire what?)
Enforcement of war-mongering (conquering what?)
Exploitation of animals (Cavalry what?)
Discrimination based on beliefs, origins, lifestyle or anything else
Xenophobia and xenocide (starting with Space Invaders)
And so on and so on...
It is so good that we have a brain to pick and choose what we play or not

Additionally, the point remains that if some people demands to have X, Y or Z types of content, based on said content offending them, the categories would become virtually endless. Say, you lost your dog, and it is a very sad loss that everyone can understand, so you want to have hidden all games that feature dogs? Guess what, with augmented reality glasses and 5G, it would be even possible that actual, real dogs might be erased from your view when you are walking down the street. It is a real possibility. Is that the world that we are headed to?
I do not know, but if you are advocating for a personalized front page, surely there might be a wishlist for that, or one can be started. But the standard one is good enough for me. On the other hand, if you might want to have additional filters, based maybe on PEGI, it might be feasible. Still, other features like a list ordered by price, for example, like Steam allows. BUT, GOG has enough on their hands just by staying alive

Orkhepaj
SuperStraight Win10 Groomer Smasher
Registered: Apr 2012
From Hungary
Posted September 09, 2020
Yeah, I cant see why they shouldn't advertise all the games. If something is not to your liking just don't buy it, it is this easy.
If some get traumatized (more like virtue signaling) from some of these, just ignore them, nothing good ever happened by accepting their crazy needs.
If some get traumatized (more like virtue signaling) from some of these, just ignore them, nothing good ever happened by accepting their crazy needs.

Carradice
Orlanthi
Registered: Mar 2013
From Spain
Posted September 09, 2020


Also all of Europe has been (mostly) Christian a tiny bit longer than the US, and while all the Abrahamic religions are not sex-friendly, it really seems to be a special problem with the Puritan franchise over there. Hell, I sometimes think the Catholics I know are out to properly sin so they have a proper repentance too.


But I digress. I do not know about Germany being more opposed to violent movies than, say, the Netherlands. But it is true that all around Europe carrying firearms around cities is not considered normal for civilians, that most of us do not glorify violence in our daily lives (film and games fantasies may be something different) and that, say, if the President of France has a problem with his or her spouse, that belongs to the private sphere and we do not need to know about it. Of course, the Puritan heritage casts a very long shadow that reaches to most small aspects of daily life in the States even now (within the cultural mores promoted by the elite). But a part of it comes from notions ingrained in the doctrine of Luther and especially Calvin (taken to the extremes, if you want). They are alien and disagreeable to, say, people from catholic countries, but not so much for the German background.
Post edited September 09, 2020 by Carradice

Gersen
New User
Registered: Sep 2008
From Switzerland
Posted September 09, 2020
Honestly I don't really understand the premise of this thread, how do you determine what an "adult" game is ?
All VN games here that contains "raunchy" elements are censored, you won't see anything in them that you wouldn't see in a swimsuit catalogue, the Larry games are incredibly tame. I mean I could understand the request is Gog really had an "adult" (i.e. porn) section but it's not the case.
Heck if anything if you want to see uncensored tits or asses then your best bet is probably the Witcher games or the soon to be released (hopefully) Cyberpunk game are there those that should be removed from promotional emails ?
All VN games here that contains "raunchy" elements are censored, you won't see anything in them that you wouldn't see in a swimsuit catalogue, the Larry games are incredibly tame. I mean I could understand the request is Gog really had an "adult" (i.e. porn) section but it's not the case.
Heck if anything if you want to see uncensored tits or asses then your best bet is probably the Witcher games or the soon to be released (hopefully) Cyberpunk game are there those that should be removed from promotional emails ?