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Mutant Year Zero: Road to Eden is coming soon DRM-free.

A tactical adventure game combining the turn-based combat of XCOM with story, exploration, stealth, and strategy. Take control of a team of Mutants navigating a post-human Earth.
I was intrigued by this game when it was announced. I didn't buy it at release. I was waiting on something I just didn't know what. Now I know, I was was waiting on the GOG version. Whishlisted!
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reative00: Just to be clear:

Quote from their community manager:
"Just wanted to pop in and give our official statement about Denuvo.
We are using Denuvo because we want to protect the hard work the developers have put into the game from piracy. Unfortunately we are not in a position where we can release a game without some form of copy protection and Denuvo, being the industry standard, has proven itself to be effective in preventing piracy. We currently don't have any plans to remove Denuvo from MYZ: Road to Eden."

This post was marked by developers as "answer to original topic" (about Denuvo):
"Basically its a harmless software that stops piracy or rather aims to slow down piracy, however tinfoil hat people are convinced its using their $299 walmart pc to mine crypto currency or is collecting infomation on their my little pony fetish to sell to the russians :P
in short the type of people who cry about it are the type of people the game/community is better without."

Then, after some people said "hey, that's pretty fucked up views", they posted this:

“We do not agree with the views that were expressed in the comment that was mistakenly tagged by a dev and we feel it's absolutely not ok to belittle others for an opinion.
We understand that people are concerned about Denuvo and it is your right to discuss and bring up your concerns. We would however appreciate if it was discussed in one thread, rather than creating new ones with the same topic.
And to confirm: we will not remove Denuvo as we want to protect and honor the developers work as much as we can. It is equally your right to decide not to buy the game because of that reason.
Since this is yet again delving into a Denuvo discussion I am closing this thread. You are welcome to continue your concerns or praise for Denuvo in the already existing thread.
Thank you for your understanding.”

At this point, according to crackwatch, the game has been cracked for 41 days. So I guess it's "well we hate the idea of DRM-free games but it's cracked already so let's publish it on GoG and just grab some additional bucks"?
Thanks for letting us know, but that´s even one reason more to buy the game here, which I already decided right after I saw it coming here - to show the developers/publisher it´s worth it.
And hope they will see a reason to release their future works here as well.

Whatever was their reason for it, I am not gonna judge them - I am just gonna buy their game ;)
Post edited March 02, 2019 by Tarhiel
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Tarhiel: ...
And hope they will see a reason to release their future works here as well.
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The problem with this though is that no matter how well things go, GOG will sell only a marginal quantity of what it could have been if the game had no DRM from the start.
The hard tuth is that the vast majority of gamers does not care about DRM at all, and even many of those who would buy it DRM-free given the chance inevitably "cave in" and decide to suffer the DRM rather than not having the game at all, so lots and lots of potential sales are already vanished.

To prove a game can really do well DRM-free, other day one DRM-free games should be taken as example.
The only major release I know did this is The Witcher 3, so far. A better term of comparison for MYZ might be Larian or Obsidian.
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Tarhiel: ...
And hope they will see a reason to release their future works here as well.
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Enebias: The problem with this though is that no matter how well things go, GOG will sell only a marginal quantity of what it could have been if the game had no DRM from the start.
The hard tuth is that the vast majority of gamers does not care about DRM at all, and even many of those who would buy it DRM-free given the chance inevitably "cave in" and decide to suffer the DRM rather than not having the game at all, so lots and lots of potential sales are already vanished.

To prove a game can really do well DRM-free, other day one DRM-free games should be taken as example.
The only major release I know did this is The Witcher 3, so far. A better term of comparison for MYZ might be Larian or Obsidian.
I don´t see things so bleakly becasue:

"The hard tuth is that the vast majority of gamers does not care about DRM..." - I would say this is wrongly postulated. I would say there are many gamers who yet do not realize DRM exists and it´s impact on the industry, because they are used to buy games on Steam and don´t really think about this.

That´s the reason why I always, when I speak about GOG to someone I mention DRM and ask them whether they know, what that is - when they weren´t aware of it´s existence, they are always intrigued about GOG and why this store means such a difference.

Education plays a big role - I know what´s at stake here and why I buy games here and not elsewhere - let the other people know, but not force them, is important.

"...and even many of those who would buy it DRM-free given the chance inevitably "cave in" and decide to suffer the DRM" - I would not. If some game is released with DRM and publisher or developer has no interest to release it here - that´s their problem, I am not gonna buy it then. I might pirate it and play the game, but why would I do that when I have 900+ backlog here - there are so many games I can play meanwhile they might decide to change their stance (happened several times with several developers - Banner Saga comes to mind), the only important thing is NOT to cave in at that time - I would never say I would see Bioshock or Dragon Age here, and look, we have them now.

And since this has happened several times throughout the years, I have learned already to be patient and not buy the games elsewhere, but rather wait. Not only then I can buy the game with a discount (which is nice, but not a prerequisite for me to buy games - if it is game I was waiting/hoping for, I will pay full price, no questions asked), it is already polished (bugs are ironed out) + DRM free.

And as for new games being released here, there were several games released here right on the release day or soon after (Kingdom Come: Deliverance).
Post edited March 03, 2019 by Tarhiel
The game having Denuvo is precisely why I chose not to purchase it on release. Now that it's coming to GoG, I'll certainly give it a whirl.
Anyone asked the devs why they changed their minds (quite a backflip considering the previous posted comments)and removed the denuvo so game could be sold on gog?.
Great to see it coming here! Will definitely be picking it up!
Ooooo, I'm intrigued.

This looks really fun.
Nice :)...i didn't bought it because of the DRM but was temped to buy it at Xbox...never thought it would be released at Gog, consireding the comments of the Dev's.
Well I didn't realize this coming here was such a big deal, but it's a Funcom-published game with a lot of reviews on Steam and a good rating. Not as exciting to me as something higher up on the GOG wishlist but looks like stand-out stuff here. :)

I *assume* it'll be released at an initial discount price.
It's a shame we didn't know it was coming to GOG before now, I bought it on Steam a few weeks ago & I'm now giving away a copy from Humble Bundle Monthly, I wish I'd known that was coming as I haven't even played it yet :(
Nice ! Day one purchase from me as soon as it gets here.
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So now they want to sell to "the type of people the game/community is better without"?
I think I'm better off without them.
Happy to hear this is coming to GOG.
Sounds intriguing.
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Waldschatten: After how hard they went with the DRM here only to see it fail even more spectacularly than it did with Conan maybe a bit of love from GOG will get them to pull their heads out going forward and not make stupid decisions on every level with every game they lay hands on.

Plus, they're the publishers, so condemning this game because of their poor business decisions (I didn't hold it against RiME when they pulled Denuvo and released on GOG) and an idiot mod that the company didn't support is like punishing Level 5 for doing a great job with Ni No Kuni II because Bandai Namco can be real pricks.
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reative00: You're right. I haven't honestly realized that this isn't developer = publisher case. In that situation, I'm gonna buy it just to support the devs; I don't think that "denuvo -> okey, we've realized our mistake, let's go DRM-free" like with RiME is a problem, it's actually fairly happy ending, after all this is the same thing that CDPR did with Witcher 2 (anyone remember infamous threat letters to customers in Germany and their stance on DRM back then?). The issue here was mostly their attitude towards customers; you can say "we understand that some companies prefer to release their games DRM-free, we're not keen on that, thanks for understanding" instead of "u bunch of crazy conspiracy theorists lol".
This is very much my take on the situation too. I understand that publishers like Denuvo - it looks good to the shareholders to pretend they're combating piracy, whether it works or not, and whether it causes problems for legitimate buyers or not. So I'm always disappointed when games use Denuvo, but I don't hold it against the devs any more than I hold it against devs who automatically toss Steam DRM into their games without ever considering the alternative.

But marking such an offensive statement as the answer to "What is Denuvo" wasn't professional or understandable. It was rude and dismissive to people who were saying they wanted to buy the game but felt that non-game elements of it constituted malware, ie. potential buyers. Plus, the publicity caused by it painted a target on the game for Denuvo-cracking pirates, making the limited protection offered by Denuvo even less effective. So... rude and stupid.

Still, I'll take this DRM-free release as a victory. I like turn-based strategy, so I'll no doubt end up buying it, just as I bought Rime and Lords Of The Fallen, and will no doubt buy Abzu at some point. Celebrating the return of the prodigals seems more productive to the cause than keeping a grudge.