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SirPrimalform: ... I am of course referring to the people who go crazy whenever GOG apologises for anything.
I don't follow GOG on Twitter (or anyone else) and I didn't get the joke (and subsequently also not why it might be offensive), but apologizing sounds like not a bad idea to me. Many a joke are kind of offensive to someone. So a little apology now and then cannot hurt really. One should not get crazy over GOG apologizing (nor should GOG overdo the apologizing, a brief sorry is more than sufficient).
Cyberpunk 2077 is going to be the MOST PC and LEAST "Punk" game ever.

Call a man a man and get an instant Game Over screen.

Call a woman a "chick" in the conversation wheel - Game Over and Galaxy will send a message to all the people who have the client that a player used the term "chick" in the game, and unless you apologize you won't be allowed to play the game anymore.

Now we know why CDPR has needed almost 10 years to make the game. It started out as Cyberpunk 2077 but turned into Snowflakes 2077.
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amok: If you value politics higher then a good game, then yes, i do think you should boycott and stop playing games in general. perhaps find a new hobby where you can just relax and let go, gaming is not good for you if you get riled up like this and it becomes political for you, instead of finding enjoyment in the games.
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Hitchno: While I can't speak for them, I think they're speaking in terms of the opposite.
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if you start boycotting games due to the political actions a company makes, then you do exactly the same thing as the SJW's you are accusing... both sides are as bad as each other. relax and go play a game instead
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SirPrimalform: Argh, the extremely vocal minority strikes again!

I am of course referring to the people who go crazy whenever GOG apologises for anything.
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Sanjuro: Heh. You're a funny guy. I like you. :-D
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firstpastthepost: (...) Maybe, seeing as how it has nothing to actually do with you personally, you should just ignore it. (...)
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Sanjuro: "When they came for the trade unionists, I did not speak out; I was not a trade unionist...." :-P
Though I appreciate the hyperbole, I have a feeling some of the people talking here would take that pretty extreme comparison seriously.
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MajicMan: Cyberpunk 2077 is going to be the MOST PC and LEAST "Punk" game ever.

Call a man a man and get an instant Game Over screen.

Call a woman a "chick" in the conversation wheel - Game Over and Galaxy will send a message to all the people who have the client that a player used the term "chick" in the game, and unless you apologize you won't be allowed to play the game anymore.

Now we know why CDPR has needed almost 10 years to make the game. It started out as Cyberpunk 2077 but turned into Snowflakes 2077.
And this is what i`m afraid might happen. I also notice there are quite a few sjws doing their best to alter the game. If they succeed they`ll ruin it just like so many other games like BFV, Battlefront and even spoil battletech with things like `they`.

I won`t buy if that`s so, I`m ready for SJWS to ruin everything which is why I do my own anti-SJW work, soon to be released. There are many of us working underground ready to take the world by storm.
Post edited August 22, 2018 by Socratatus
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firstpastthepost: Why would this concern you? It sounds like this literally has no effect on you at all beyond you imagining that a company apologizing for something benign is a tacit approval on their part of a political view you don’t share. That’s a pretty ridiculous stretch and makes you just as bad as your so called social justice warriors for perpetuating false outrage. Maybe, seeing as how it has nothing to actually do with you personally, you should just ignore it. After all every company does this. They aren’t making a political statement. They are trying to be neutral to protect market share.
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Hitchno: Well, there's an easy answer to this. Past history. And current history. Victimhood is valuable currency, one that can be cashed in for some people. And for some people this is also used to push agendas that fans don't want. Simply put? People don't want to see yet another good company fall down the same path that's ruined other games, movies, music, culture.

This isn't the slippery slope argument or fallacy, rather it's the fact people have seen multiple companies, organizations, museums, libraries, plays-houses do this just in the last 10 years do this. First the company will make a joke, normal ad, or whatever else. This is followed up by various groups on social media screeching outrage over it. The company then starts responding to this outrage. Depending who the shakedown artist(s) are and how much pull, you'll then start hearing about xyz company hiring on diversity consultants "because of complaints about xyz thing" or "abc thing is cultural appropriation" or whichever.

To average people, the core fan base, this abc/xyz thing is a literal non-issue. But it's very important to the people offended. So important that cultural exchange events are shutdown. Content gets pulled from games. Movies get scrubbed of icons to not offend.

These people will then start telling the people within the company that everyone else is the problem, not the self-offended individuals. You'll then start hearing the insider stories about how story information is passed through curators who "really know the situation and can adjust it to make it not offensive." From there you'll see the creeping advertisements pushing whatever social agenda that's hot. The company will then start being told that "they don't have enough diversity hires" so they need to hire not based on merit, skill, ability. But on equity, sexuality, race, or other points to "raise their social standing and promote this good corporate culture."

Several years down the road, this company is publishing garbage. Injecting the 'hot political message of the day in' and so on. People will start wondering what's happened, and then the accusations that if you don't believe in what they're doing? Well you're a racist, sexist, misogynist, manbaby, dudebro, or whatever term is hot at the time. And in a little while, so-long company and in some cases good-bye franchise. Oh it was never the people pushing this that caused it. The problem is always the fans, who are also unintelligent, regressive, socially backward, against progress, or again whatever hot term is running as well. There will also likely be claims of harassment(which are never shown), claims of misogyny or sexism, 'toxic working environments' and all the rest. Yeah "toxic" is the favorite buzzword of the last few years too.
The problem is that there is a better way of dealing with this than whining. Just don’t buy a product if it has a message you don’t like. It’s not like there’s a lack of gaming options. The OP gave a list of ones he found sufficiently non-sjw. Rather than trying to impose your views on everyone else (the exact thing they are complaining about) they should just let others do as they want. Again this doesn’t actually adversely effect anyone. This is a cycle of bullshit outrage from both sides that makes the whole problem worse.
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Socratatus: [...]
they`ll ruin it just like so many other games like BFV, Battlefront and even spoil battletech with things like `they`.
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What if that was the vision the game makers always had in mind, what they wanted to make. if you don't let them, then you are censoring them.
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MajicMan: Cyberpunk 2077 is going to be the MOST PC and LEAST "Punk" game ever.

Call a man a man and get an instant Game Over screen.

Call a woman a "chick" in the conversation wheel - Game Over and Galaxy will send a message to all the people who have the client that a player used the term "chick" in the game, and unless you apologize you won't be allowed to play the game anymore.

Now we know why CDPR has needed almost 10 years to make the game. It started out as Cyberpunk 2077 but turned into Snowflakes 2077.
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Socratatus: And this is what i`m afraid might happen. I also notice there are quite a few sjws doing their best to alter the game. If they succeed they`ll ruin it just like so many other games like BFV, Battlefront and even spoil battletech with things like `they`.

I won`t buy if that`s so, I`m ready for SJWS to ruin everything which is why I do my own anti-SJW work, soon to be released. There are many of us working underground ready to take the world by storm.
I’m curious, what exactly is anti-sjw work?
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MajicMan: Cyberpunk 2077 is going to be the MOST PC and LEAST "Punk" game ever.

Call a man a man and get an instant Game Over screen.

Call a woman a "chick" in the conversation wheel - Game Over and Galaxy will send a message to all the people who have the client that a player used the term "chick" in the game, and unless you apologize you won't be allowed to play the game anymore.

Now we know why CDPR has needed almost 10 years to make the game. It started out as Cyberpunk 2077 but turned into Snowflakes 2077.
10/10 - Excellent satirical broflake impression.
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firstpastthepost: I’m curious, what exactly is anti-sjw work?
I imagine it'll be some edgelord thing that will only be bought by broflakes in order to protest the SJW bogeyman rather than for the gameplay.
Post edited August 22, 2018 by SirPrimalform
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Socratatus: And this is what i`m afraid might happen. I also notice there are quite a few sjws doing their best to alter the game. If they succeed they`ll ruin it just like so many other games like BFV, Battlefront and even spoil battletech with things like `they`.

I won`t buy if that`s so, I`m ready for SJWS to ruin everything which is why I do my own anti-SJW work, soon to be released. There are many of us working underground ready to take the world by storm.
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firstpastthepost: I’m curious, what exactly is anti-sjw work?
You just having to ask that question tells me everything.

Work that doesn`t worry about being politically correct. No bs feminism, bs cotton wooled nonsense. Men are men and women are women. It simply tells an entertaining story in a far away world.

I`m sure you`ll hate it.
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firstpastthepost: I’m curious, what exactly is anti-sjw work?
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Socratatus: You just having to ask that question tells me everything.

Work that doesn`t worry about being politically correct. No bs feminism, bs cotton wooled nonsense. Men are men and women are women. It simply tells an entertaining story in a far away world.

I`m sure you`ll hate it.
Wow, defensive much. You’re making stupid assumptions, my comment was a legitimate question and says nothing about my personal views, which you know nothing about.

From your description you’re writing a normal story, not a political dissertation. And the fact that you interpret a normal story (if as described) as being a political statement says more about your insecurities than it says about me.
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Socratatus: You just having to ask that question tells me everything.

Work that doesn`t worry about being politically correct. No bs feminism, bs cotton wooled nonsense. Men are men and women are women. It simply tells an entertaining story in a far away world.

I`m sure you`ll hate it.
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firstpastthepost: Wow, defensive much. You’re making stupid assumptions, my comment was a legitimate question and says nothing about my personal views, which you know nothing about.

From your description you’re writing a normal story, not a political dissertation. And the fact that you interpret a normal story (if as described) as being a political statement says more about your insecurities than it says about me.
Haha. The fact that you found a way to get offended by my statement tells me a lot. If you were genuine, you wouldn`t respond like that.

Pull the other one, m8.
CDPR. My dear.

Stop giving intellectually bankrupt people attention.

Thank you.
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firstpastthepost: Wow, defensive much. You’re making stupid assumptions, my comment was a legitimate question and says nothing about my personal views, which you know nothing about.

From your description you’re writing a normal story, not a political dissertation. And the fact that you interpret a normal story (if as described) as being a political statement says more about your insecurities than it says about me.
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Socratatus: Haha. The fact that you found a way to get offended by my statement tells me a lot. If you were genuine, you wouldn`t respond like that.

Pull the other one, m8.
Right... You’ve got me all figured out. I’m not being “genuine”. Whatever you believe that to mean. I was pointing out that you were assuming that I am a SJW, as you would say, because I questioned something you said that was nebulous in nature. And then I had the nerve to point out that you were politicizing something that didn’t need to be. I pointed it out because that is really the crux of the problem on both sides of the issue. You are behaving equally as extreme as the people you are railing against.

And by the way, I am a social conservative. I hate political correctness. I just think that calling people nazis or snowflakes or SJWs is counterproductive to a meaningful dialogue.
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Hitchno: While I can't speak for them, I think they're speaking in terms of the opposite.
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amok: if you start boycotting games due to the political actions a company makes, then you do exactly the same thing as the SJW's you are accusing... both sides are as bad as each other. relax and go play a game instead
Who's boycotting due to political actions at this point tho? I'm not. And I only gave what I understand to be their view, I might be wrong on all of that. But I doubt it.

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firstpastthepost: The problem is that there is a better way of dealing with this than whining. Just don’t buy a product if it has a message you don’t like. It’s not like there’s a lack of gaming options. The OP gave a list of ones he found sufficiently non-sjw. Rather than trying to impose your views on everyone else (the exact thing they are complaining about) they should just let others do as they want. Again this doesn’t actually adversely effect anyone. This is a cycle of bullshit outrage from both sides that makes the whole problem worse.
You don't understand. This isn't whining, this is stating facts, consequences of negative actions by people who want to control "how" something is presented and so forth. The only "view I'm trying to impose" is the view that the artist, animator, author, storyboard team, developer, and so on, should be free to create whatever material they want without some outraged mob telling them that they *must* conform to a particular specialized set of standards. This is what the outrage about that tweet is, that CDPR must apologize on their hands and knees for that "transphobic joke."(go read that resetera thread, that's what that outraged mob wants). They must bow to that mob of people who are so offended by "did you just assume their gender" and other memes like "I sexually identify as an attack helicopter."

My view is, they should be able to make that joke, ad, story, or whatever without fear of that mob. That if they want to make the most offensive joke possible? That's perfect. If they made a joke about a guy getting decapitated in his own hovercar, and their head landing in a baby carriage and the mother thinking it's their kid as the punchline, it should be allowed.

You've already agreed that people should let market forces decide by buying that game/book/movie/etc, that's what I expect. I'm simply tired of that mob of offended people who aren't buying, trying to tell others what they should be offended by, then trying to impose it on others.

Again - read that resetera thread(resetera was the place where all of the perpetually offended neogaf posters ran off to. The moderation is extreme, fully authoritarian. Disagree with the narrative, view point or posting "disagreements with gaming site views/authors" - banned.. And if you think they're nobodies, I'll remind you that those gaming sites like polygon, kotaku, RPS, and such sites get their "frontline clickbait" from there. Are active posters there. There are even a few developers who post there and are trying to curry the favor of the mob, while trying to curry amazingly free expression mob on neogaf.