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Our children are autistic, one of the problems they have is saying sorry after doing something accidental.
Knock into someone, even if unintentional, you say sorry.

It polite.

Say something hurtful, even if unintentional, you say sorry.

It doesn't matter that 1000 people didn't find it hurtful, someone did.

I saw the comment. I didn't find it funny, it was nonsensical.

I've later found out its origin, and can see why some people might find it offensive.


It matters that someone, some group found it offensive, even if the majority were not and CDRP are right to apologise.

Making a joke that alienates a minority, it devalues them, its part of the social mechanisms humans use to exclude a group.

Lastly to say these "SJW" won't buy the game seems ludicrous. @Cyberpunk_game is a fairly obscure twitter to follow on the off chance you could use a bad tweet to further your cause.
It would just be nice to go a month without CD Projekt apologising for an innocuous Tweet. People don't follow doormats, they follow confidence.
Oh dear. This world is spineless.
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mechmouse: It doesn't matter that 1000 people didn't find it hurtful, someone did.
It matters that someone, some group found it offensive, even if the majority were not and CDRP are right to apologise.

Making a joke that alienates a minority, it devalues them, its part of the social mechanisms humans use to exclude a group.
That's not practical if you follow it to its natural conclusion, literally anything is going to offend somebody. I think you will notice that those same people who are offended and expect you to cater to them don't give the same courtesy to others; and that's because this isn't about being offensive, it's about trying to control people. You can do an experiment easily enough, see how tolerant they are when you say something they're trying to push is offensive. They're not going to care about your feelings.
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mechmouse: Our children are autistic, one of the problems they have is saying sorry after doing something accidental.
Knock into someone, even if unintentional, you say sorry.

It polite. ...

It matters that someone, some group found it offensive, even if the majority were not and CDRP are right to apologise.

Making a joke that alienates a minority, it devalues them, its part of the social mechanisms humans use to exclude a group.

Lastly to say these "SJW" won't buy the game seems ludicrous. @Cyberpunk_game is a fairly obscure twitter to follow on the off chance you could use a bad tweet to further your cause.
First, offense is taken, never spoken. They're looking to be offended, they don't care about your apology as long as it can be leveraged against you for something else. If you bump into someone you've caused them physical harm. If you speak a shitty joke, you carry on with life. I'd really hate to see what you'd see of jokes in the policing, ems, or firefighting biz. Whooo....boy.

Lastly to say that they won't? Well why don't you go hit the 44 page thread that's still on-going over on resetera(this is where the worst-of-the-worst of neogaf ended up), which is basically the source of all this moral outrage. And when you get to the "I'll never buy it"(with thunderous applause), and the "I'll still buy it"(with 1 week bans for transphobia), you should quickly catch on as to what's happening.

edit: And to be absolutely clear These people believe doxing is perfectly acceptable. If you're unfamiliar with the term, that's releasing private information such as name/address/phone numbers/personal contact info/family information/etc., in order to censor, coerce, threaten a person and/or group into doing something they want you to do.
Post edited August 22, 2018 by Hitchno
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y waaz mi-post remooved this op is nazi and sholud be banned not people liek me fiting nazi-ism proveing gog r nazi
Argh, the extremely vocal minority strikes again!

I am of course referring to the people who go crazy whenever GOG apologises for anything.
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soxy_lady: *mod note

Your post was removed as it clearly ignored the 4 points I stated earlier. This one was edited for the same reason.
Post edited August 22, 2018 by Linko90
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luzarius: CDPR's tweet said, "Did you just assume their gender?!" - LINK: https://archive.is/kAD7B

I thought this tweet was hilarious, because SJW's make a big deal about this constantly and take it to insane, unhealthy extremes. 99% of the people who buy your games had a good laugh over this tweet. But for some reason you caved to the vocal minority of SJW's in America who have no political power and are considered social outcasts. These people don't buy your games. SJWs are modern sociologists who've graduated from far left universities & colleges. They're goal is to turn EVERYTHING political and force their social justice concepts into every piece of media in existence, with no regard for story, lore or character back story, they don't give a damn about these things. I remind you that CDPR had to defend themselves from accusations of racism from SJW's, just because there were no black people in Witcher 3.

Now you've apologized to them: https://twitter.com/CyberpunkGame/status/1031930291772899329 - This is VERY harmful, because you just made a joke, but then you backed down as if you were wrong, when in fact you did nothing wrong. IMO, you didn't need to apologize. Everyone knows you're either a male or female. Assuming gender is not a big deal.

I've bought every single CDPR game that's ever come out, but if you side with SJW's, I will be forced to boycott your game. I can't believe I would ever have to say this to CDPR, because I LOVE YOUR COMPANY! I've supported you since your inception, but you betrayed me today. *sigh*

- Let's learn from Doom Eternal
The doom guys made a politically incorrect joke in their game: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sGSMoMtPmbI&feature=youtu.be&t=675 - "remember, demons can be an offensive term, refer to them as mortally challenged." - Gamers LOVED this. Gamers tend to be very politically incorrect. That is why we love games like GTA which is filled with politically incorrect offensive content. SJW's hate political incorrectness, that is why they're so upset with your joke.

- Let's learn from GTA 5
GTA is filled with politically incorrect content, similar to the joke you made on twitter. Yet this game has sold over 50 million copies. Gamers do not like political correctness. We despise it. We love offensive jokes that push the limit.

- Let's learn from Battlefield 5
There's a lot of people who are not buying Battlefield 5 because they've aligned with SJW's. Their trailer was so horrible that it caused a major backlash. Dice allowed their game to be used as a conduit for social justice and the trailer didn't make any sense as a result. Please understand, I say this with full respect to you, SJW's don't care about you or your game. They only care about forcing their politics into everything to promote their political agenda.

- Learning from Kingdom Come Deliverance
The developers who made Kingdom Come Deliverance are anti-SJW. The gamers quickly sided with them and supported their game as much as possible because they were anti-SJW and because they made a quality product.

- Dear CDPR, You're no longer neutral
The only reason I recommend picking a side is because you've crossed the line. You're no longer politically in neutral territory. By making that joke you're now in a position where you need to side with someone. This is just my opinion. I'm not ordering you to do anything. You guys ultimately decide what you want, but because you made this joke and apologized for it. You've inadvertently picked a political side. This is how gamers will perceive your apology on twitter.

You're either anti-SJW or SJW. You can try to stay neutral, but by making the joke and then apologizing to SJW's you've inadvertently sided with them. If you side with SJW, expect the same backlash that Battlefield 5 is getting. If you're anti-SJW expect all gamers to side wtih you the same way they sided with Kingdom Come Deliverance and GTA 5.

Now as a consumer I have to decide whether I want to buy your game or not. If you align with SJW's, I cannot buy your game.

- SJWs in America
Remember, SJW's in America have no political power. Their illogical ideals have caused them to lose all political power. America dislikes SJWs. They have no power here and are laughed at because their ideals are so illogical and nonsensical. I'll always hear them out, always support their free speech, but what they say doesn't make sense. Traditional social justice warriors before 2010 were far more logical. Modern social justice warriors are insane.

*hugs* Thank you for reading. Take care!
Well said- I support you.

They should NEVER have apologised. This will only make them worse and will worsen the game. Stand up to these `pc` bullies. They are terrible people who pretend to be good. If their games become a social justice mess I certainly won`t buy.

Link90. Don`t edit my post without a good reason. Thankyou.
Post edited August 22, 2018 by Socratatus
Why would this concern you? It sounds like this literally has no effect on you at all beyond you imagining that a company apologizing for something benign is a tacit approval on their part of a political view you don’t share. That’s a pretty ridiculous stretch and makes you just as bad as your so called social justice warriors for perpetuating false outrage. Maybe, seeing as how it has nothing to actually do with you personally, you should just ignore it. After all every company does this. They aren’t making a political statement. They are trying to be neutral to protect market share.
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SirPrimalform: Argh, the extremely vocal minority strikes again!

I am of course referring to the people who go crazy whenever GOG apologises for anything.
Heh. You're a funny guy. I like you. :-D
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firstpastthepost: (...) Maybe, seeing as how it has nothing to actually do with you personally, you should just ignore it. (...)
"When they came for the trade unionists, I did not speak out; I was not a trade unionist...." :-P
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firstpastthepost: They are trying to be neutral to protect market share.
This is the problem. When you are trying to be neutral both sides will get mad at you. You have to decide and then be consistent with your decision.

"I know your deeds; you are neither cold nor hot. How I wish you were one or the other! So because you are lukewarm — neither hot nor cold — I am about to spit you out of My mouth!"
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firstpastthepost: Why would this concern you? It sounds like this literally has no effect on you at all beyond you imagining that a company apologizing for something benign is a tacit approval on their part of a political view you don’t share. That’s a pretty ridiculous stretch and makes you just as bad as your so called social justice warriors for perpetuating false outrage. Maybe, seeing as how it has nothing to actually do with you personally, you should just ignore it. After all every company does this. They aren’t making a political statement. They are trying to be neutral to protect market share.
Well, there's an easy answer to this. Past history. And current history. Victimhood is valuable currency, one that can be cashed in for some people. And for some people this is also used to push agendas that fans don't want. Simply put? People don't want to see yet another good company fall down the same path that's ruined other games, movies, music, culture.

This isn't the slippery slope argument or fallacy, rather it's the fact people have seen multiple companies, organizations, museums, libraries, plays-houses do this just in the last 10 years do this. First the company will make a joke, normal ad, or whatever else. This is followed up by various groups on social media screeching outrage over it. The company then starts responding to this outrage. Depending who the shakedown artist(s) are and how much pull, you'll then start hearing about xyz company hiring on diversity consultants "because of complaints about xyz thing" or "abc thing is cultural appropriation" or whichever.

To average people, the core fan base, this abc/xyz thing is a literal non-issue. But it's very important to the people offended. So important that cultural exchange events are shutdown. Content gets pulled from games. Movies get scrubbed of icons to not offend.

These people will then start telling the people within the company that everyone else is the problem, not the self-offended individuals. You'll then start hearing the insider stories about how story information is passed through curators who "really know the situation and can adjust it to make it not offensive." From there you'll see the creeping advertisements pushing whatever social agenda that's hot. The company will then start being told that "they don't have enough diversity hires" so they need to hire not based on merit, skill, ability. But on equity, sexuality, race, or other points to "raise their social standing and promote this good corporate culture."

Several years down the road, this company is publishing garbage. Injecting the 'hot political message of the day in' and so on. People will start wondering what's happened, and then the accusations that if you don't believe in what they're doing? Well you're a racist, sexist, misogynist, manbaby, dudebro, or whatever term is hot at the time. And in a little while, so-long company and in some cases good-bye franchise. Oh it was never the people pushing this that caused it. The problem is always the fans, who are also unintelligent, regressive, socially backward, against progress, or again whatever hot term is running as well. There will also likely be claims of harassment(which are never shown), claims of misogyny or sexism, 'toxic working environments' and all the rest. Yeah "toxic" is the favorite buzzword of the last few years too.
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firstpastthepost: Why would this concern you? It sounds like this literally has no effect on you at all beyond you imagining that a company apologizing for something benign is a tacit approval on their part of a political view you don’t share. That’s a pretty ridiculous stretch and makes you just as bad as your so called social justice warriors for perpetuating false outrage. Maybe, seeing as how it has nothing to actually do with you personally, you should just ignore it. After all every company does this. They aren’t making a political statement. They are trying to be neutral to protect market share.
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Hitchno: Well, there's an easy answer to this. Past history. And current history. Victimhood is valuable currency, one that can be cashed in for some people. And for some people this is also used to push agendas that fans don't want. Simply put? People don't want to see yet another good company fall down the same path that's ruined other games, movies, music, culture.

This isn't the slippery slope argument or fallacy, rather it's the fact people have seen multiple companies, organizations, museums, libraries, plays-houses do this just in the last 10 years do this. First the company will make a joke, normal ad, or whatever else. This is followed up by various groups on social media screeching outrage over it. The company then starts responding to this outrage. Depending who the shakedown artist(s) are and how much pull, you'll then start hearing about xyz company hiring on diversity consultants "because of complaints about xyz thing" or "abc thing is cultural appropriation" or whichever.

To average people, the core fan base, this abc/xyz thing is a literal non-issue. But it's very important to the people offended. So important that cultural exchange events are shutdown. Content gets pulled from games. Movies get scrubbed of icons to not offend.

These people will then start telling the people within the company that everyone else is the problem, not the self-offended individuals. You'll then start hearing the insider stories about how story information is passed through curators who "really know the situation and can adjust it to make it not offensive." From there you'll see the creeping advertisements pushing whatever social agenda that's hot. The company will then start being told that "they don't have enough diversity hires" so they need to hire not based on merit, skill, ability. But on equity, sexuality, race, or other points to "raise their social standing and promote this good corporate culture."

Several years down the road, this company is publishing garbage. Injecting the 'hot political message of the day in' and so on. People will start wondering what's happened, and then the accusations that if you don't believe in what they're doing? Well you're a racist, sexist, misogynist, manbaby, dudebro, or whatever term is hot at the time. And in a little while, so-long company and in some cases good-bye franchise. Oh it was never the people pushing this that caused it. The problem is always the fans, who are also unintelligent, regressive, socially backward, against progress, or again whatever hot term is running as well. There will also likely be claims of harassment(which are never shown), claims of misogyny or sexism, 'toxic working environments' and all the rest. Yeah "toxic" is the favorite buzzword of the last few years too.
Well said.