Also, fishing Lake Superior is EXPENSIVE!

Just the gear alone can run into the thousands of dollars. Nothing like spending $2500 on a down-rigger only to watch it sink to the bottom of the lake after a coho salmon rips it off your boat. :P

Ultimate Fishing Simulator DLC Road Map - 2018/2019

https://steamcommunity.com/app/468920/discussions/0/1735465524716849313

UPDATES - February/March/April/May 2019

https://steamcommunity.com/app/468920/discussions/0/1780513643848745872/

General Guide on the basics of UFS

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1558870408

Finally a fishing game is available on GOG! This one doesn't interest me personally, but it's a start.

Would like to see some old fishing titles released here, Rapala Pro Fishing most of all.

We had this game, I'm sure it might be in our attic

I might actually pick up the pc builder simulator :)

Although I had an actual simulation when I built my own pc from scratch about 3 years ago without any pre-knowledge.

Brutally hard games isnt really escapism, Those are challenges.
However that doesnt mean there doesnt exist brutally hard challenges in the real world as well.
One usally do a challange in some form to get a kick from adraline.
It feels good to overcome a challange wheter in a computer game or not.
Perhaps the only diferance is the relative safety in a computer game, theres also the imersive aspects.
It isnt really possible to be a real vampire going around sucking peoples blood and be immortal to make one example.

With that said there do exist games where you can in a way escape as you put it but i dont consider super meat boy as one of those.

I thought about Sanpei.

so... lets make this simpler then - define "digital / computer game"

(you just ruled out games like Opus Magnum, Puyo Pop, Bubble Bobble, Tetris and so on here....)

those puzzles games don't mimic real life the PC simulator tries to do so but morons like you see it as a puzzle game. Build a real PC moron you'll see how much of a puzzle it can be instead of this fake wannabe thing you call a game. But unlike this thing, you call a game.

*Modded, please be polite when posting on the forum.

This thread has more then it's share of A holes,frankly.
If you don't want to buy a game, then don't fucking buy it. But don't attack those who do buy it.
And I see that every new game announcement is going to turn into another fight over GOG's "Curation Policy".
No wonder the GOG forums have certain reputation in he gaming world. And it's not a good one.

no, it is your statement "Most games are escapism " - how are those games I listed "escapism"?

so again - to be able to tell if something is a game or not, you need to define what it is. for the sake of argument, define "computer game"... what is a computer game?

all you have said so far boils down to "things I like are games, things I do not like are not" - not very good....

edit - if the criteria is "games don't mimic real life " - then all flight simulators, physic simulators, car simulators (like Gran Turismo) or even something like Medal of Honor are not games

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAI'm outta here!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5OILKhHN7VI

Actually, their setting is mostly based on Escapism, If you were to make a game based on reality you'd get a pretty boring game unless it means an unrealistic scenario like all those war games. Challenges in the real world are only for a select few because you need pretty dangerous things if you wanna call something challenge.

With a challenge in the gaming world, you take away the risk hence but there is a difference between brutal hard or challenging depending on how fair the game is made and Dark souls is a fair game for people with skill and patience.

The question is do you consider Super meat boy a sense of reality or fiction? considering the characters sure do lack reality.
You think this game would nearly be on par with any normal game simply cause you don't like I called the game garbage and people who buy it, morons. I like how you constantly need to try to get a definition made by some unknown nobody that think it defines ''Computer game'' Cause like I said many times the original meaning means nothing cause different people see different interpretation but you seem to ignore this fact cause you need child lack help with definition cause you can't define it yourself as a person. I could define a Stick as a game as long as I play with it which would be retarded but that could be excused as such.

You notion of "things I like are games, things I do not like are not" considering i could care if it got released i just like to call garbage for what it is.

In the end your notion of simple definition would mean even broken games should be defined as actual games even if they are broken as long as they uphold a so-called definition, So if a game gets released and people call it barely a game in your notion they aren't allowed to complain most likely cause it doesn't suit your narrative.

From all your replies they sure keep getting wrong. Nothing that actually gives you validity you even needed to steal the concept of it's a puzzle game from a different user.

*Modded, please be polite when posting.

no, no, no. you misunderstand me. I have never played this game, nor will I. Simulators in general is not my thing, and this PC building one seems very boring. it is not my cup of tea at all... however I have no issues with it existing, being sold and other people liking it. each to their own.

What I do have an issue with is your elitist attitude. who are you to judge what is or is not a game? especially as you are incapable of telling what a game is. so again, to be able to tell if something is or is not a game, you first need to know what a game is.

Am I crazy or did we just cross over from criticizing to belittling?