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First of all, a new character class – The Druid – is being made available to the gamers, along with over 30 spells & abilities, including Wild Shape. The latter includes taking the form of 8 Shapes –from a cat to a polar bear – with each transformation affecting the reactions of those around you.

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Carradice: No. The problems of Cyberpunk came from a very different source.
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Breja: No, they don't. When all is said and done, they knowingly released an unfinished game because they knew they could afford it. They knew they already made their money back and then some before releasing it. If the financial success relied on selling the finished product, they would have postponed the launch untill the game was ready.
This rationale is simply not true, things did not work out like that, and has nothing to do with the source of the problems of Cyberpunk 2077 at launch.
Post edited February 26, 2021 by Carradice
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amok: games are a luxury, not a necessity.
Statements like that are "conversation killers". I'm pretty sure that a lot of things that YOU consider "a necessity" aren't actually needed for the average caveman to survive.
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amok: games are a luxury, not a necessity.
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teceem: Statements like that are "conversation killers". I'm pretty sure that a lot of things that YOU consider "a necessity" aren't actually needed for the average caveman to survive.
indeed, and that's the whole point... wheter one likes to buy EA games or not is non-discussion. It is a luxury, a hobby, and there is no right or wrong way to how you enjoy your free time, or how you spend your monies on your hobby. . It is not a necessity or a life essential what-ever. Therefor everything is moot, it is a "conversation killer", beacuse at the core there is not really any conversation to be had here. I like alpha's / EA, Breja do not. And in the end the result is - so what?
Post edited February 26, 2021 by amok
Aren't druids just a mix between clerics and mages in D&D?
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teceem: Statements like that are "conversation killers". I'm pretty sure that a lot of things that YOU consider "a necessity" aren't actually needed for the average caveman to survive.
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amok: indeed, and that's the whole point... wheter one likes to buy EA games or not is non-discussion. It is a luxury, a hobby, and there is no right or wrong way to how you enjoy your free time, or how you spend your monies on your hobby. . It is not a necessity or a life essential what-ever. Therefor everything is moot, it is a "conversation killer", beacuse at the core there is not really any conversation to be had here. I like alpha's / EA, Breja do not. And in the end the result is - so what?
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amok: indeed, and that's the whole point... wheter one likes to buy EA games or not is non-discussion. It is a luxury, a hobby, and there is no right or wrong way to how you enjoy your free time, or how you spend your monies on your hobby. . It is not a necessity or a life essential what-ever. Therefor everything is moot, it is a "conversation killer", beacuse at the core there is not really any conversation to be had here. I like alpha's / EA, Breja do not. And in the end the result is - so what?
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Breja: /forum
no, because my tastes and the way I play games is much better than yours, and you are wrong. /forum
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Crosmando: Aren't druids just a mix between clerics and mages in D&D?
More of a nature-oriented cleric. They can transform themselves into animals, and lose some of the powers of the clerics. Also IIRC they are not limited to blunt weapons, but (IIRC again) they cannot wear the heaviest armor (therefore they become a bit more flimsy when not transformed).
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Breja: /forum
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amok: no, because my tastes and the way I play games is much better than yours, and you are wrong. /forum
At least I don't randomly show up to arbitrarily declare other people's conversations null & void :D because computer games aren't important enough to have a conversation about on a computer game forum :D
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Crosmando: Aren't druids just a mix between clerics and mages in D&D?
not at all , they can transform into bears thats cool priests are not cool at all and mages are just lame
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amok: no, because my tastes and the way I play games is much better than yours, and you are wrong. /forum
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Breja: At least I don't randomly show up to arbitrarily declare other people's conversations null & void :D because computer games aren't important enough to have a conversation about on a computer game forum :D
no, you just imply that there is only one way to properly enjoy and play games - yours.
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Breja: At least I don't randomly show up to arbitrarily declare other people's conversations null & void :D because computer games aren't important enough to have a conversation about on a computer game forum :D
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amok: no, you just imply that there is only one way to properly enjoy and play games - yours.
and he is right
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Breja: At least I don't randomly show up to arbitrarily declare other people's conversations null & void :D because computer games aren't important enough to have a conversation about on a computer game forum :D
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amok: no, you just imply that there is only one way to properly enjoy and play games - yours.
So? I just made an easy joke on the thread's title, then people got defensive so I tried to explain my position on unfinished games. We were having a civil discussion. We disagree. That's what a forum is for - to have a civil exchange of arguments. Not neccesairly to reach some consensus. You could just as well find a thread where some people disagree about which class is best in Diablo 2 and step in saying that the guy saying it's Necromancer is "implying that there is only one way to properly enjoy and play games" and there is no conversation to be had and they should stop having a discussion because DIablo isn't life essential :P
Post edited February 26, 2021 by Breja
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amok: no, you just imply that there is only one way to properly enjoy and play games - yours.
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Breja: So? I just made an easy joke on the thread's title, then people got defensive so I tried to explain my position on unfinished games. We were having a civil discussion. We disagree. That's what a forum is for - to have a civil exchange of arguments. Not neccesairly to reach some consensus. You could just as well find a thread where some people disagree about which class is best in Diablo 2 and step in saying that the guy saying it's Necromancer is "implying that there is only one way to properly enjoy and play games" and there is no conversation to be had and they should stop having a discussion because DIablo isn't life essential :P
you pushed it in that direction by explaining how "responisble" it is or is not.... that is on one hand passing a judgement (i.e. people who do not do as you are per definition "irresponsible") , as well as starting to blow out of proportion the impact of our hobby. Yes, it is fine to talk about games, have feeling about games, but I do not see the point in letting people know that if they do not like what you do to be irresponsible. If somone likes alpas, early accesses, then they are not irresponsible, just beacuse you do not like them.

A joke is not just a joke, it is a indication about your propositions. If it was just a joke, you would not need to defend it.

edit - anyway, I have said what I wanted to say in this thread, and going to let it rest there.
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Breja: Yeah - let people like you risk their money and wait for the finished product :D

Sure, a lot of good games came out of crowdfunding, early access etc. That doesn't make dumping money into them "responsible". You can run with scissors a dozen times too before you finally trip... "Like it or not" releasing half-finished games, games missing most promised features, "fixing" games for months or years after release, the whole "games as service" concept - it all comes from people accepting the idea of buying games unfinished. Buying based on hype, marketing, qewl art or shiny pre-order extras.

You may think it's worth the risk, you may think the risk very low, but don't call "responsible" sending a dev a message that basically reads "I'll buy anything you promise right now, the end result doesn't matter". That's exactly how we got Cyberpunk, from a dev people used trust as implicitly as you trust Larian.
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amok: dumping any kind of mony into any type of game is not responisble.... games are a luxury, not a necessity. so how you waste your monies on games, be it EA, alphas, kickstarted or complete games, the wast is the same. It is just so you can feel superior for your choices, deem them more "responible" than others, but really the end product is the same waste. so live and let live

edit - "you are hobbying wrong!"
Speak for yourself, boy.

I for one pirate everything, and only support couple of devs, and rest can eat grass for all I care.

Don't judge everyone based on your own stupidity.
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amok: dumping any kind of mony into any type of game is not responisble.... games are a luxury, not a necessity. so how you waste your monies on games, be it EA, alphas, kickstarted or complete games, the wast is the same. It is just so you can feel superior for your choices, deem them more "responible" than others, but really the end product is the same waste. so live and let live

edit - "you are hobbying wrong!"
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Արսեն: Speak for yourself, boy.

I for one pirate everything, and only support couple of devs, and rest can eat grass for all I care.

Don't judge everyone based on your own stupidity.
well, boy, you and Orkhepaj will get on very well, I suggest you meet up