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Pheace: Welp, Turnbased confirmed. Great for me but some people are not going to be happy.

Looks great so far, definitely going to be getting this :D
The turned based combat kinda looks and feels like X-Com 2.
So far I was kinda hoping this would play something akin to Neverwinter Nights 2 and Dragon Age: Origins.

The game just feels too different from what I expect from the old classic RPGs from Fallout 1 to KOTOR 2.
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Elmofongo: So far I was kinda hoping this would play something akin to Neverwinter Nights 2 and Dragon Age: Origins.

The game just feels too different from what I expect from the old classic RPGs from Fallout 1 to KOTOR 2.
Have you played pathfinder kingmaker? That is closer to the old BG games :)
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Elmofongo: The game just feels too different from what I expect from the old classic RPGs from Fallout 1 to KOTOR 2.
So you didn't expect it to be like Baldur's Gate, developed by Bioware - but like other games, developed by Interplay/Obsidian?

Anyway, what am I arguing here? If you already have a "feel", based on some early youtube video, good for you! I'm probably going to wait for some reviews, maybe even for a lower price. (I'll probably be in the middle of some other game when BG3 is released.) I'm looking forward to it, but a backlog is a backlog.
Post edited February 27, 2020 by teceem
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Elmofongo: The game just feels too different from what I expect from the old classic RPGs from Fallout 1 to KOTOR 2.
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teceem: So you didn't expect it to be like Baldur's Gate, developed by Bioware - but like other games, developed by Interplay/Obsidian?
No No, Bioware's games are also included in what I expect. I mean I just mentioned that I was hoping this would be kinda like a Dragon Age: Origins.
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Elmofongo: So far I was kinda hoping this would play something akin to Neverwinter Nights 2 and Dragon Age: Origins.

The game just feels too different from what I expect from the old classic RPGs from Fallout 1 to KOTOR 2.
Sounds like you prefer Real-Time with Pause in which case Pathfinder Kingmaker would definitely be a better fit.
Post edited February 27, 2020 by Pheace
Good that they went turn based, it brings it closer to the tabletop experience it's meant to be and as much as i like BG 1-2 and still do, the Bhaalspawn saga is concluded and it's time for something new instead of regurgitate same 20-22 year concept today.

I do agree being associated with the Baldur's Gate 3 name brings certain expectations and it's confusing as to why Larian or more likely WoTC choose that name.
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Elmofongo: So far I was kinda hoping this would play something akin to Neverwinter Nights 2 and Dragon Age: Origins.

The game just feels too different from what I expect from the old classic RPGs from Fallout 1 to KOTOR 2.
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Pheace: Sounds like you prefer Real-Time with Pause in which case Pathfinder Kingmaker would definitely be a better fit.
Well I wouldn't mind if it was like Fallout 1 and 2 and Arcanum's Turned Based Combat.

But this one feels too much like X-Com 2. I was not prepared for the sheer verticality of the combat and exploration.
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ChrisGamer300: Good that they went turn based, it brings it closer to the tabletop experience it's meant to be and as much as i like BG 1-2 and still do, the Bhaalspawn saga is concluded and it's time for something new instead of regurgitate same 20-22 year concept today.

I do agree being associated with the Baldur's Gate 3 name brings certain expectations and it's confusing as to why Larian or more likely WoTC choose that name.
I mean it would have caught just as much amount of attention if it was called "From the Creator's of Divinity Original Sins. Dungeons and Dragons: Wrath of the Mindflayers, a Forgotten Realms Adventure"
Post edited February 27, 2020 by Elmofongo
Combat looks slow. Like, really, really slow. Like, Silent Storm-after-not-enough-sleep slow.

I love me some turn-based, but I'm a little worried that the combination of that and a story the length of BG2 or D:OS2 will make playing a chore. There's a certain value to pacing that I'm not sure Larian is considering.
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Elmofongo: No No, Bioware's games are also included in what I expect. I mean I just mentioned that I was hoping this would be kinda like a Dragon Age: Origins.
I really liked Dragon Age: Origins... but when I started playing it, I wished it was more like Baldur's Gate.
(IMO) it was their last RPG*... Both DA2 and ME1 should've been more like Mass Effect 2/3 - good action/adventures, not failed RPGs.
I haven't played Inquisition yet though.

*just in case Dtgreene discovers this topic; I disagree with what you have to say. You like your tactical non-wargames, which you call "real RPG" computer/video games. And that's fine.
Post edited February 27, 2020 by teceem
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teceem: Is there a game that implemented both systems (as a choice) and made them both equally "good"? If not, maybe Larian succeeds at it?!
I know PoE (1 or 2) added TB after the initial release, but I don't know if it's any good... (both PoE games are still waiting in my backlog)
From what I've read PoE2 suffers a lot from the "trash mobs now take forever" issue. As a game originally designed for real-time, it makes sense it would feel belabored in turn-based.
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DadJoke007: One of the few new games in recent years that actually made me wanna play after seeing screenshots. If they can keep the silly humor from Divinity: Original Sin out from the game, it has the potential to be really good.

Not bashing the humor in Divinity, it works there, I just don't think Baldur's Gate would be Baldur's Gate with it.
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Elmofongo: Baldur's Gate is a series that gave us Misnc. What's wrong with the humor in Divinity?
Never said it was, both series are great and have their own distinct humor that wouldnt work in either setting.
I believe this game will be very divisive. There's a lot of backlash happening right now on Steam.
Post edited February 28, 2020 by zazak09
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DadJoke007: Never said it was, both series are great and have their own distinct humor that wouldnt work in either setting.
Agree to disagree. Comparing the humor of BG1&2 vs Divinity (1&2), I thought it they had a lot in common. Baldur's gate being better because they left out the "lesser" jokes.
Humor is very subjective, so let's leave it at that.
Really excited to see it's a turn-based Dragon Age Origins. Loved that game except for the kind of bland setting, but this looks much better visually. Really psyched.

It's a shame many people can't take things as they are, it was never going to be just like the originals.