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I haven´t read all the posts but one of my main concerns is the pages size. I use sometimes a metered connection (with low limits) and browsing a few games on the shop hit easely 100+Mb of internet traffic, if not carefull.
On the games main page videos don´t autoplay no more but on the tiles page, it autoplays if the mouse cursor is selecting the game. A simple option to limit this would be great.

Of course, with so much java script and big sized pages it taxes lower end pc performance quite a lot. (in my opinion unnecessary, but is the trend)
I dont use a wishlist on gog, because... why? For me this could be for games like Freedom Fight where isnt relased and we want it.
Friends? Most of them are offline games, for me isnt point to add friends in gog.

I know, they aim into casuals, but they still have bugs on webiste like cant post review....
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Cavalary: They've been doing that for quite a number of years now.
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tfishell: They have been releasing newer indie games for about 6-7 years now.
I don t talk about indie titles (although they tend to be the better ones these days (sadly)
I mean "big" games, like newer Annos, newer Deus Ex titles, Borderlands, GTAs

I talk about new big company releases, that should be released DRM free here on GoG
after their inital release phase is done

(we all know how "protected" they are... ye i look at you Exodus "for example")
I guess since the main site is kinda useless to old browsers i think it won't be possible to redeem gogs freebies when they would have a giveaway. You simply can't click it the banner and opera portable also seems to be acting up lately on the main site even though the forum shows the username but not the main site.
Post edited April 07, 2019 by Fonzer
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GHOSTMD: I don t talk about indie titles (although they tend to be the better ones these days (sadly)
I mean "big" games, like newer Annos, newer Deus Ex titles, Borderlands, GTAs

I talk about new big company releases, that should be released DRM free here on GoG
after their inital release phase is done

(we all know how "protected" they are... ye i look at you Exodus "for example")
That has to do with publishers, and the big ones now tend to have their own stores, plus Steam which is the "default". Plus the generic pro-DRM attitude of big publishers, not that they necessarily believe it helps (though some actually might be misguided enough to think so), but because it's a convenient excuse. Why didn't the game sell as well as we wanted it to? "Piracy"! What are we doing to reduce that? DRM! Maybe they know it's a lie and maybe they know we know it's a lie, but they can't admit it.
Plus, big publishers and big titles tend to come with conditions, and GOG already gave up on every single principle it ever had bar this DRM-free for single player one for them. They sold as much of themselves as could be sold on that altar, there's little more they can offer.
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Fonzer: I guess since the main site is kinda useless to old browsers i think it won't be possible to redeem gogs freebies when they would have a giveaway. You simply can't click it the banner and opera portable also seems to be acting up lately on the main site even though the forum shows the username but not the main site.
Yeah, that's impossible unless you use what they want you to for a while now. Might have even started before the redesign.
Not complaining so much when it comes to free stuff though, that tends to come with some strings. When it comes to the main page otherwise, with release announcements and sales, and regular game pages, the stuff leading to what one would pay for, it's inexcusable not to work in basically anything, even if it would mean having a "basic/simple" site version to be used for other browsers.
Post edited April 07, 2019 by Cavalary
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Cavalary: Plus, big publishers and big titles tend to come with conditions, and GOG already gave up on every single principle it ever had bar this DRM-free for single player one for them. They sold as much of themselves as could be sold on that altar, there's little more they can offer.
What principles? They are a company that need to seel stuff, even though they are a sub company of CDPR.
Being DRM free is the only thing that really counts i might argue, once they think about to change that, i am
the first to abandon Galaxy and GoG. Since i am adamant on my stand that i want to own the games i buy.

Which is the reason i test every purchase from GoG for complete standalone funktionality.
The point is.... once a games DRM is already got a jailbreak, it makes no sense for the big bois
to keep their games behind their DRM bars anymore. But guess muh MTX and Lootbox monetisations
n shit.

Well we ll see what the future holds, as long as GoG stands with "We let you own your games for real"
i think GoG is the better digital distrubution, despite the flaws.
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GHOSTMD: What principles? They are a company that need to seel stuff, even though they are a sub company of CDPR.
Being DRM free is the only thing that really counts i might argue, once they think about to change that, i am
the first to abandon Galaxy and GoG. Since i am adamant on my stand that i want to own the games i buy.
You are adamant about no DRM, I'm also adamant about no regional price hikes, and about the industry being a rotten pile of crap that must not be supported and purchases needing to show support to those who stand up to it, make a cause out of fighting its practices in general, with selling stuff coming secondary. And there's also that part about competing not with other stores, but providing a better experience than "pirates", by making sure the games work very well, possibly better than the "official" versions otherwise, and when possible also have added stuff not readily found otherwise... instead of ending up with games missing even existing official patches and content available elsewhere, as is the case for an increasing number on here in recent years.
Also, on the matter of DRM, since you mention Galaxy, it seems you don't consider using a client (leaving aside that it's not required for single player - when you use it, you act as if it would be in practice) as a form of DRM, and I definitely disagree with that.
So, you know, their original principles, who they claimed to be and what they claimed to do and fight for, spelling it all out until, well, pretty much until just before your time really, judging by the listed join date.
Cavalary the problem started with the redesign of the main site using mostly firefox esr 52.9.0 . But there was still a way to see news and the main site and redeeming gogs giveaway banner with opera 36. Now i don't know when a giveaway will happen again but they broke it again. Guess they upgraded to new browsers a little too far. 3 year old opera was still working.not long ago.
Now i can see games on store page with firefox esr by clicking on sale, even some games are seen on the main site, but it's broken. Opera only shows black screens where games should have been on main site even though a few weeks ago everything worked except selecting pages.
Will report if it won't be possible to redeem gogs giveaway. Buying games still no problems here.
Post edited April 07, 2019 by Fonzer
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Cavalary: You are adamant about no DRM, I'm also adamant about no regional price hikes, and about the industry being a rotten pile of crap that must not be supported and purchases needing to show support to those who stand up to it, make a cause out of fighting its practices in general, with selling stuff coming secondary. And there's also that part about competing not with other stores, but providing a better experience than "pirates", by making sure the games work very well, possibly better than the "official" versions otherwise, and when possible also have added stuff not readily found otherwise... instead of ending up with games missing even existing official patches and content available elsewhere, as is the case for an increasing number on here in recent years.

Also, on the matter of DRM, since you mention Galaxy, it seems you don't consider using a client (leaving aside that it's not required for single player - when you use it, you act as if it would be in practice) as a form of DRM, and I definitely disagree with that.
So, you know, their original principles, who they claimed to be and what they claimed to do and fight for, spelling it all out until, well, pretty much until just before your time really, judging by the listed join date.
I know exactly what you mean Cavalary, believe me i know it.
I also know exactly that Galaxy is the same Data Monitoring and Sniffing Tool as
the other clients, i use it for lazy reasons.

The point is, every game on GoG (Galaxy or not) works standalone and completely standalone
no matter which installer you use (yes i test it everytime) which means Galaxy is not DRM
and it is not intrusive and it does not give CDPR / GoG the possibility to "delete" your games.
Unless ofc you do not make any Systembackups at all *kek* (jk) you know what i mean.

My time? ... tell me more about "my time" ever since i gave steam client the ONLY chance in 2011
GoG is my only source i buy the games, so yes i have seen the changes over the years.
Ubioft lost me with SH5, EA lost me once they forced Origin, Blizzard lost me when they
said D3 will have no LAN MP and is forced to use BN 2.0
Should i go on?

As for Galaxy, i think it is needed to go with "the time" the majority relies on automated DLs
and installation processes via a client (mostly because they got forced to use them)

Maintaining and installing games manually is kinda rejected, guys like me are the "insane" ones
keeping telling them they don t own their games and give away the control over their legally bought
property...

Ever since Galaxy and webinstallers were brought into the place by GoG devs i started testing
the games i buy here. There is improvement though, loading times are quite better now if
you start your game without internet connection and without the client. (for example)

Not sure how many devs working on the platform right now, but i suppose it ll get better.
Really the only reason i see, to abandon this place is when they go away from their
DRM free philosophy. Owning my Games is the main thing here and it should stay the main
thing.

Heck i susspose i would even buy games on steamstore if there was a possibility NOT to use the
fucking client. One launcher that is monitoring your game behavior is really enough ^^ don t you
think?
Actually, considering the current industry trends, if the GOG will somewhat lay down, and slim their staff, etc... they can have a big bright future of selling all these old games to future generations, as there will be basically no competition, every other publisher/retailer will provide only the SaaS/free-to-pay "games" with AI driven content to lure players into more microtransactions...

So all the GOG needs to do is to stay DRM-free and no micro transactions packages, and they will have distinct selling point for next decade or two. The dark side is, that the stream of new games will slowly diminish, as no new games will be compatible with this model any more, still current catalogue of 2+ thousand titles may keep GOG in black numbers, if they stop wasting money on totally incompetent staff like their web-dev team...
Post edited April 08, 2019 by ped7g
Hm, seems like that after the completely broken main page (and some smaller issues elsewhere), the search/store is now gone as well. Nothing is clickable anymore which means one can't buy things anymore apart from doing it via the wishlist or links, as the actual game pages are basically the last thing still working. Oh well, money saved, I guess.
It is very telling that if you want to shop on GOG you have to use some other sites like gg.deals, where you can easily browse through the discounts (exactly THIS lacks GOG itself.. and I think this is a very conscious decision).

Regarding GOG is my only store etc... well, the change of atmosphere during the last years here is very telling.
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coffeecup: It is very telling that if you want to shop on GOG you have to use some other sites like gg.deals, where you can easily browse through the discounts (exactly THIS lacks GOG itself.. and I think this is a very conscious decision).

Regarding GOG is my only store etc... well, the change of atmosphere during the last years here is very telling.
*shrugs* no clue what you mean, you can easy browse through discounted games here,
Already discribed how you find the Filter for it.

Click all games (drop down menu when you ckick games)
left side you have the "reduced" filter
tadaaaaa all games who are on discount (reduced) are shown

and regarding the atmosphere here ... well what you expect, these days when everything has to be
overly political correct and ppl are outraged by jokes

Had no issues with the site though, everytime i bought a gamey and neither for galaxy.
*shrugs*
Post edited April 09, 2019 by GHOSTMD
The discounted filter is really new. Last time i visited here, there was not one here.

This also doesn't solve that my owned games are also listed in the discounted games, bonus to the wise decision not to mark my already owned games in the shop any way.
Post edited April 09, 2019 by coffeecup
re. the website, I've voiced similar sentiments before - It needs simplifying! The only browser it works properly in is my 'Evil Website' browser, i.e. Chrome, the browser I have sandboxed and only use for sites that won't work properly in any of my other browsers. Even in that it is very slow and gobbles up more resources than any other website aside from possibly YouTube and Twitch.

Frankly, GOG need to sort the website out as a top 5 priority. It's now costing GOG my money as it's such a PITA to even navigate the site to buy something I don't even try and only come here to re-download something, try and check for updates to things I already downloaded, or buy something specific that I've heard about somewhere else (The last thing I think I've bought here was West of Loathing or Donut County!!)



re. the games they are putting out, I think it is still a good balance of 'Good Old Games' and good indie titles. I know the biggest hurdle for GoG is getting publishers and studios to get over the DRM-free thing so what we've been getting has been pretty damned impressive.

Keep up the good work there!

I'd love to see things like EDF4 and 5 and Borderlands and Rage and Doom 2016 and Mad Max on here but with the industry the way it is I know it's unrealistic, at least in this decade. I'd be happy enough to see good indie games like Jets and Guns 2, Streets of Rage 4, Untitled Goose Game or Creeper World 4 on here.

I think it might be worth getting some community input on Go/No Go for games they're considering as they have rejected some really good games in the past, tho' in some cases this was rectified due to fan support (Some Zachtronics titles come to mind)