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Freespace seriesHow do you think the story would have ended (spoiler warning)?(5 posts)(5 posts)
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Posted September 28, 2010
How do you think the story would have ended?

From the events at the end, it looks like both Terrans and the Vasudans would have certainly been annihilated very quickly. It's unclear how much of space the Shivans occupy, but considering how little time it takes to cross galaxies with hyperjump technology, and that their civilization is billions of years older than ours, it's likely they occupied most of space. With a seemingly infinite number of ships with unlimited resources and tremendously more advanced technology there doesn't seem like there was a way to prevent annihilation.

Even the destruction of the node would not make a difference, as the Shivan ships were able to jump without nodes.

Unless Admiral Bosch was somehow able to achieve a truce or alliance with them, it seemed the end of earth.

I wish there were a sequel to complete the story. How do you guys think it would have ended?
Posted September 28, 2010
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Tsunami: Even the destruction of the node would not make a difference, as the Shivan ships were able to jump without nodes.
Not completely without nodes. It was stated somewhere that the Shivans were able to use jump nodes that the GTVA had deemed too unstable. But the Shivans still had to use some nodes.
Posted September 29, 2010
There are quite a few theories on the HLP forums, it's an interesting read. Clearly, the Shivans have an absolutely superior war machine, GTVA doesn't stand a chance in case of direct confrontation. FS2 main campaign showed that. But what remains unclear is the motives of Shivans. From the ending cutscene of FS1, it would seem that the shivans destroy races that are dangerous to others, meaning those that are space-faring and agressive. As the shivans appeared during the Terran-Vasudan war, it seems coherent enough. So is their destruction of the Ancients (which previously destroyed many other races).

The community mod Blue Planet proposes a nice continuation after FS2. Only two episodes have been released yet, but some hints during mission dialogues or fanfiction in the techroom seem to indicate that they have accepted this interpretation of Shivans as destroyers that allow younger races to develop without external interference.
Posted September 30, 2010
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Nnexxus: There are quite a few theories on the HLP forums, it's an interesting read. Clearly, the Shivans have an absolutely superior war machine, GTVA doesn't stand a chance in case of direct confrontation. FS2 main campaign showed that. But what remains unclear is the motives of Shivans. From the ending cutscene of FS1, it would seem that the shivans destroy races that are dangerous to others, meaning those that are space-faring and agressive. As the shivans appeared during the Terran-Vasudan war, it seems coherent enough. So is their destruction of the Ancients (which previously destroyed many other races).

The community mod Blue Planet proposes a nice continuation after FS2. Only two episodes have been released yet, but some hints during mission dialogues or fanfiction in the techroom seem to indicate that they have accepted this interpretation of Shivans as destroyers that allow younger races to develop without external interference.
Thanks. I will try the Blue Planet mod when I get time.

While the "protectors of the universe" theory has merit, it doesn't explain why the Shivans wouldn't even try to communicate. If they occupy countless galaxies and have existed for billions of years, one would expect that they had extremely well developed communication abilities. Instead, they just wiped out all life in their path.
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Tsunami: Even the destruction of the node would not make a difference, as the Shivan ships were able to jump without nodes.
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Jeff Vader: Not completely without nodes. It was stated somewhere that the Shivans were able to use jump nodes that the GTVA had deemed too unstable. But the Shivans still had to use some nodes.
You're right. Though the Ancients had technology to re-open collapsed nodes. If they could do it, the far more advanced Shivans should be able to do it too, especially since they had millions or perhaps billions of years since the death of the Ancients to advance their technology.
Post edited September 30, 2010 by Tsunami
Posted October 24, 2010
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Nnexxus: There are quite a few theories on the HLP forums, it's an interesting read. Clearly, the Shivans have an absolutely superior war machine, GTVA doesn't stand a chance in case of direct confrontation. FS2 main campaign showed that. But what remains unclear is the motives of Shivans. From the ending cutscene of FS1, it would seem that the shivans destroy races that are dangerous to others, meaning those that are space-faring and agressive. As the shivans appeared during the Terran-Vasudan war, it seems coherent enough. So is their destruction of the Ancients (which previously destroyed many other races).

The community mod Blue Planet proposes a nice continuation after FS2. Only two episodes have been released yet, but some hints during mission dialogues or fanfiction in the techroom seem to indicate that they have accepted this interpretation of Shivans as destroyers that allow younger races to develop without external interference.
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Tsunami: Thanks. I will try the Blue Planet mod when I get time.

While the "protectors of the universe" theory has merit, it doesn't explain why the Shivans wouldn't even try to communicate. If they occupy countless galaxies and have existed for billions of years, one would expect that they had extremely well developed communication abilities. Instead, they just wiped out all life in their path.
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Jeff Vader: Not completely without nodes. It was stated somewhere that the Shivans were able to use jump nodes that the GTVA had deemed too unstable. But the Shivans still had to use some nodes.
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Tsunami: You're right. Though the Ancients had technology to re-open collapsed nodes. If they could do it, the far more advanced Shivans should be able to do it too, especially since they had millions or perhaps billions of years since the death of the Ancients to advance their technology.
We aren't really sure how much more advanced the Shivans were. It's true that they were more advanced technologically and have a greater war machine and war effort, but the advancing of technology by the GTVA during Freespace II show that we aren't ages behind in fighter technology, mostly in beam technology. By the end of FS2, it seems like Terran fighters are superior to many of the Shivan fighters. Another thing with the interpretation of their being "protectors" is that we have no idea why their ships seem to serve two purposes, IE, a lot of them seem to also be some sort of colony ship. It could be that the Shivans just never considered us an intelligent race, or as anything special, until Bosch made contact with them.
Post edited October 24, 2010 by meowmixxx
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