Posted June 11, 2015
Gydion
Aexander
Registered: Oct 2011
From United States
Jason_the_Iguana
Tepid-blooded
Registered: Jul 2011
From Netherlands
Posted June 11, 2015
Hm.. I'll try messaging support. Who knows, might help.
Deathstalkerone
New User
Registered: Dec 2011
From Australia
Posted June 12, 2015
high rated
Yep, LAN has DRM. This is the reason I refuse to buy this game and expansions while loving and owning all past games.
I logged a ticket to GOG about false advertising, and am awaiting a response.
"DRM-FREE. No activation or online connection required to play."
"Modes: Single-player - Multi-player"
Is what is says on the store page; blatant false advertising and a EXTREMELY bad precedent to set for the 100% DRM free website.
When Triumph's servers inevitably shut down multiplayer will become 100% unusable, unlike previous games.
I logged a ticket to GOG about false advertising, and am awaiting a response.
"DRM-FREE. No activation or online connection required to play."
"Modes: Single-player - Multi-player"
Is what is says on the store page; blatant false advertising and a EXTREMELY bad precedent to set for the 100% DRM free website.
When Triumph's servers inevitably shut down multiplayer will become 100% unusable, unlike previous games.
Post edited June 12, 2015 by Deathstalkerone
Jason_the_Iguana
Tepid-blooded
Registered: Jul 2011
From Netherlands
Posted June 17, 2015
Just got a response to my ticket. They changed it according to my suggestion, and the multiplayer notice now reads:
"Multiplayer notice: Currently, the multiplayer options available are: Hotseat, mutliplayer over VPN, Play by Email and Online Multiplayer. All modes except Hotseat require a unique CD key, which will be located in your game shelf, and an on-line account with Triumph Studios."
A typo aside, there are no more inaccuracies now. I'm still not too enamoured of Triumph's account system, but now everybody should have fair warning. I'm glad they fixed it.
"Multiplayer notice: Currently, the multiplayer options available are: Hotseat, mutliplayer over VPN, Play by Email and Online Multiplayer. All modes except Hotseat require a unique CD key, which will be located in your game shelf, and an on-line account with Triumph Studios."
A typo aside, there are no more inaccuracies now. I'm still not too enamoured of Triumph's account system, but now everybody should have fair warning. I'm glad they fixed it.
MrElixer
New User
Registered: Jun 2013
From United States
Posted July 21, 2015
"Multiplayer notice: Currently, the multiplayer options available are: Hotseat, mutliplayer over VPN, Play by Email and Online Multiplayer. All modes except Hotseat require a unique CD key, which will be located in your game shelf, and an on-line account with Triumph Studios."
A typo aside, there are no more inaccuracies now. I'm still not too enamoured of Triumph's account system, but now everybody should have fair warning. I'm glad they fixed it.
torham
New User
Registered: Sep 2010
From United States
Posted July 23, 2015
Thank you for the update, I'd really love to buy this game but obviously the DRM continues to be a deal breaker.
The fact that GOG has allowed this to go on has really damaged my opinion of them. I spend quite a bit of time now researching the games I'm about to buy here, no more impulse buys. I hope it was worth it to lose my loyalty.
The fact that GOG has allowed this to go on has really damaged my opinion of them. I spend quite a bit of time now researching the games I'm about to buy here, no more impulse buys. I hope it was worth it to lose my loyalty.
torham
New User
Registered: Sep 2010
From United States
Posted July 24, 2015
Here is a new community request asking for GOG to remove DRM content. The latest addition to GOG's library, Victor Vran, also seems to have DRM, though I'm not sure to what extent. Hopefully we can get GOG to see the mistake they are making.
http://www.gog.com/wishlist/site/get_rid_of_the_drm_in_your_games_details_in_description
http://www.gog.com/wishlist/site/get_rid_of_the_drm_in_your_games_details_in_description
Jason_the_Iguana
Tepid-blooded
Registered: Jul 2011
From Netherlands
Posted July 25, 2015
http://www.gog.com/wishlist/site/get_rid_of_the_drm_in_your_games_details_in_description
Multiplayer only works through Triumph's servers because that's how the game was designed by Triumph. And you need a game-key to get an account for those servers. GoG can't change that. They'd have to reverse-engineer the game and host their own servers or something. And that would A] take a ridiculous amount of effort and B] be illegal. Not going to happen.
You could petition Triumph to make a real LAN mode or something, though I doubt they'll invest the time and money either. Still, it would have a better chance of success since it's at least possible.
It is what it is. AoW3 doesn't have any DRM for normal single-player or hotseat, but you need the game-key for multiplayer. Which happens to be true for lots of games. If that's a deal-breaker for you that's unfortunate, but GoG can't do anything about it unless it is not stocking any games which have some kind of protected multiplayer mode.
And I for one am very glad we can get those games on here anyway. Most people only play single-player, and for them it's not an issue at all.
torham
New User
Registered: Sep 2010
From United States
Posted July 26, 2015
Multiplayer only works through Triumph's servers because that's how the game was designed by Triumph. And you need a game-key to get an account for those servers. GoG can't change that. They'd have to reverse-engineer the game and host their own servers or something. And that would A] take a ridiculous amount of effort and B] be illegal. Not going to happen.
I don't agree that most people only play single player and anyway it is irrelevant, GOG claims to be DRM-Free. If you can't play the full game without DRM then it can't possibly be considered DRM-Free.
joonai
New User
Registered: Feb 2009
From Barbados
Posted July 26, 2015
FAQ: What does it mean that games on GOG.com are DRM-free? It basically means that you actually own the games bought at GOG.com. Once you download a game, you can install it on any computer and re-download it whenever you want, as many times as you need.
Post edited July 26, 2015 by joonai
torham
New User
Registered: Sep 2010
From United States
Posted July 27, 2015
FAQ: What does it mean that games on GOG.com are DRM-free? It basically means that you actually own the games bought at GOG.com. Once you download a game, you can install it on any computer and re-download it whenever you want, as many times as you need.
Jason_the_Iguana
Tepid-blooded
Registered: Jul 2011
From Netherlands
Posted July 27, 2015
If by "sections of the game" you mean "multiplayer," then yeah, that'd be a pain, but it's not covered under Gog's definition. Unavailable multiplayer is a risk with older games.
As for "personal information," though: do you mean an email address? Other than email, you don't need to provide Triump with anything.
joonai
New User
Registered: Feb 2009
From Barbados
Posted July 28, 2015
Not sure what you mean here; GOG has hosted the AoW3 Installation File, DLCs, and Patch Files on their own network, (as has Steam), so even in a worst-case-highly-unrealistic-scenario of "Triumph Declares Bankruptcy Today and is completely Liquidated Tomorrow", you'll be able to download your AoW 3 games at any time (as long as you made the purchase before-hand, of course). And, although it may be difficult to play Multiplayer in such a case, it's feasible that third-party network providers will step in to take in the MP community (as was the case when GameSpy shut down -- not to mention other services such as Hamachi, Tungle, GameRanger, and so on).
Even if Triumph Studios disappeared in an sudden attack by outer-space-alien invaders, you'd always be able to play AoW 3 offline and enjoy all its features (save, possibly, Multiplayer) as you can now.
Even if Triumph Studios disappeared in an sudden attack by outer-space-alien invaders, you'd always be able to play AoW 3 offline and enjoy all its features (save, possibly, Multiplayer) as you can now.
torham
New User
Registered: Sep 2010
From United States
torham
New User
Registered: Sep 2010
From United States
Posted July 29, 2015
Even if Triumph Studios disappeared in an sudden attack by outer-space-alien invaders, you'd always be able to play AoW 3 offline and enjoy all its features (save, possibly, Multiplayer) as you can now.
Hamachi, Tunngle, GameRanger all just setup a VPN, and you can't play in LAN mode without permission from Triumph's servers.
Could the game be made available for multiplayer? Yes. Being DRM-Free means we don't have to hope they do this later, because we have everything we need now. There is no reason we shouldn't expect to be able to play all aspects of the game, including multiplayer.