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Computer games are meant to be played and to entertain. Not to be painfully, tortuously over-analyzed even before they ship...;) Some people see mountains where there are molehills and vice-versa. I recommend that people wait on the actual game to be released...;) I mean, it isn't as if it's possible to *do anything else,* is it?...;)
Because of all of this, I'm wary of this game now.
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Forum_Pirate: Jordan Petersion is a weird right-wing apologist/christian supremisist. Read one of his books. Or look up videos of other people reading his books.

He is really not left wing. At best you could say he leans libretarian, but multiple people have cornered him on specific issues and he quickly backs down because he knows there's no good answer. (For example, he was arguing against government anti-descimination laws and someone asked him if he though black people didn't deserve protection from anti-descrimination laws either and he changed his stance on those real quick)
First, of all his name is Jordan Peterson.

Second, he is an Orthodox, and not "a supremacist". I like to point out that Orthodoxy is a modern paganism, and has barely anything to do with the teachings of Jesus Christ. The only pure form of Christianity, known as Catholicism, has nothing to apologize for to anyone. It's not even a negative religion, but on contrary, a positive one.

Third, he is not a right wing person by his political views, nor is he an apologetic for the right wing. Again, what does even "right wing apologetic" even mean. He is a centrist, sometimes leaning towards the centre left, sometimes to centre right, depending on which aspect of his view on the world he is talking about. When it comes to the family values, religion and tradition, he is leaning towards the centre-right, but when it comes to his civic nationalism, multiculturalism, he is leaning towards the centre left.

Stop believing in a straw-man the left wing Jewish media has created out of him, and do listen what he has to say, especially when debating feminists, radical liberals, and so on. Don’t view the videos of him through the commentary of The Young Turks, but listen to what he says in the unedited videos. Magic might happen.

*Modded, please refrain from posting anything related to discrimination.
Post edited March 31, 2019 by Ashleee
Holy antisemitism batman.


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Forum_Pirate: Jordan Petersion is a weird right-wing apologist/christian supremisist. Read one of his books. Or look up videos of other people reading his books.

He is really not left wing. At best you could say he leans libretarian, but multiple people have cornered him on specific issues and he quickly backs down because he knows there's no good answer. (For example, he was arguing against government anti-descimination laws and someone asked him if he though black people didn't deserve protection from anti-descrimination laws either and he changed his stance on those real quick)
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Wishmaster777: First, of all his name is Jordan Peterson.

Second, he is an Orthodox, and not "a supremacist". I like to point out that Orthodoxy is a modern paganism, and has barely anything to do with the teachings of Jesus Christ. The only pure form of Christianity, known as Catholicism, has nothing to apologize for to anyone. It's not even a negative religion, but on contrary, a positive one. Dark religions are Judaism (specially a form of it known Talmudism, which gave birth to Satanism, marxism and communism), Satanism, Luciferianism, Yazidism, marxism, communism, and some others. This is a very complex debate, and you could not fathom the things I would have to say to you, since you are already mislead with your inaccurate information, which you got from the mainstream, judeo-marxist liberal propaganda news outlets, like CNN, Sky News, ABC, CBS, CBSN, MSNBC, The Young Turks, Vox, Vice, Buzzfeed and other Jewish propaganda.

Third, he is not a right wing person by his political views, nor is he an apologetic for the right wing. Again, what does even "right wing apologetic" even mean. He is a centrist, sometimes leaning towards the centre left, sometimes to centre right, depending on which aspect of his view on the world he is talking about. When it comes to the family values, religion and tradition, he is leaning towards the centre-right, but when it comes to his civic nationalism, multiculturalism, he is leaning towards the centre left.

Stop believing in a straw-man the left wing Jewish media has created out of him, and do listen what he has to say, especially when debating feminists, radical liberals, and so on. Don’t view the videos of him through the commentary of The Young Turks, but listen to what he says in the unedited videos. Magic might happen.
No, wasn't going to, but I'm quoting this, so you can't edit your post later if you have an attack of concience or decide you don't want to risk mod attention or whatever.


PS I love how you listed a bunch of news outlets I don't even watch, lol.
Post edited March 27, 2019 by Forum_Pirate
Why would anyone ever listen to Razorfist? Seriously.
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Forum_Pirate: Jordan Petersion is a weird right-wing apologist/christian supremisist. Read one of his books. Or look up videos of other people reading his books.

He is really not left wing. At best you could say he leans libretarian, but multiple people have cornered him on specific issues and he quickly backs down because he knows there's no good answer. (For example, he was arguing against government anti-descimination laws and someone asked him if he though black people didn't deserve protection from anti-descrimination laws either and he changed his stance on those real quick)

If you want to see "the left," look at like, David Pacman.

Also, not generally no. Outrage marketing is a thing. Someone says something that triggers the free speech warriors, free speech warriors go on a tirade that makes them sound racist or sexist, and now more people here about it *and* they hear about as being something people they don't like hates, which makes it an automatic curiosity. We litterally just watched something kinda like this play out with Captain Marvel.
Who said Jordan Peterson was left wing? He is, as you state, libertarian (which would be moderately right-wing).

Also, where the fuck do you get "Christian supremacist" from?! If from watching it, then you have serious problems with logic and comprehension. If from other sources only, then you may want to use some sources with more reliability, e.g. sources where the writers are not mentally retarded or leftist shills.

And I challenge you to refute any of his arguments using actual logic. He's been challenged plenty of times before and he's always come out on top. If you do have even a single instance of him being "cornered on an issue" then I'd like to see it - link to reputable vid (not some left-wing edited bullshit) or it didn't happen.

What you've observed (e.g. his supposed stance on anti-discrimination laws) wasn't him changing his stance - it was people misinterpreting what he was actually trying to say in the first place! He isn't against anti-discrimination, but he is against retarded things like quotas, and things which impinge on free speech (e.g. laws around so-called "hate speech" which tend to be excessively broad).

Basically, JP is for equal opportunity and freedom of speech, and against idiotic ideas which attempt to enforce equality through stupid means.
Post edited March 27, 2019 by squid830
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Forum_Pirate: Jordan Petersion is a weird right-wing apologist/christian supremisist. Read one of his books. Or look up videos of other people reading his books.

He is really not left wing. At best you could say he leans libretarian, but multiple people have cornered him on specific issues and he quickly backs down because he knows there's no good answer. (For example, he was arguing against government anti-descimination laws and someone asked him if he though black people didn't deserve protection from anti-descrimination laws either and he changed his stance on those real quick)
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Wishmaster777: First, of all his name is Jordan Peterson.

Second, he is an Orthodox, and not "a supremacist". I like to point out that Orthodoxy is a modern paganism, and has barely anything to do with the teachings of Jesus Christ. The only pure form of Christianity, known as Catholicism, has nothing to apologize for to anyone. It's not even a negative religion, but on contrary, a positive one. Dark religions are Judaism (specially a form of it known Talmudism, which gave birth to Satanism, marxism and communism), Satanism, Luciferianism, Yazidism, marxism, communism, and some others. This is a very complex debate, and you could not fathom the things I would have to say to you, since you are already mislead with your inaccurate information, which you got from the mainstream, judeo-marxist liberal propaganda news outlets, like CNN, Sky News, ABC, CBS, CBSN, MSNBC, The Young Turks, Vox, Vice, Buzzfeed and other Jewish propaganda.

Third, he is not a right wing person by his political views, nor is he an apologetic for the right wing. Again, what does even "right wing apologetic" even mean. He is a centrist, sometimes leaning towards the centre left, sometimes to centre right, depending on which aspect of his view on the world he is talking about. When it comes to the family values, religion and tradition, he is leaning towards the centre-right, but when it comes to his civic nationalism, multiculturalism, he is leaning towards the centre left.

Stop believing in a straw-man the left wing Jewish media has created out of him, and do listen what he has to say, especially when debating feminists, radical liberals, and so on. Don’t view the videos of him through the commentary of The Young Turks, but listen to what he says in the unedited videos. Magic might happen.
While I agree with you in that Jordan Peterson is an intelligent, articulate person who can debate anyone and win, he definitely appears to appeal more to the right-of-centre people due to his logical views on freedom of speech, and because he is against complete retardation coming from the left regarding things such as quotas.

He is definitely not a "supremacist", and whoever says that about him has either never read or watched anything he has produced or was in, or is a complete and utter moron.

However, while you have a right to your religious views, it's a bit ridiculous to claim any religion ever is only good and pure and has never been involved in anything evil. Have you ever looked into the history of the Catholic church? By which I mean the whole history, from foundation, through the middle ages, etc? Catholicism has a very dark history indeed.

The main reason it softened somewhat was because the Pope was ultimately stripped of most of his earthly power and possessions, and since then his political power has been minor.

Admittedly the catholic bible doesn't lend itself as easily to extremism as some other religions that actually have that stuff written in to their holy scriptures directly, but still...

Also, the fact that you think that a form of Judaism somehow gave birth to communism, makes me wonder whether you're being serious or some new breed of mega-troll. If the latter, well done! If the former, then please provide your references...
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It's so funny reading these forums now.

I love that GOG has become a hotspot for reactionary dipshits who lost what little brains they had over Gamergate. They whine about wanting games to be devoid of politics yet see "SJW propaganda" in every single game and game developer whose "views"" (real or implied) they don't like.

Absolutely not suprised that they worship the grifter Jungian pyschologist (not much logic to be found in that "intellectual" field), Jordon Peterson.

The forums are just absolute wasteland of youtube addled muppets parroting terms like "strawman" desperately hoping that they have won some non-existent great logic battle. They will never see the dumb hypocrisy of the drivel they spew on these forums.

Point in case:

"Anti-semite is not a person who hates the Jews, anti-semite is a person whom the Jews hate."

I mean you really are that fucking stupid aren't you?

So tragic that this used to be a place where people used to have fun and talk about old games.

But I guess i'm just an evil, leftist "cultural marxist" bogeyman eh boys?
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Hopefully this game with be moddable. That will provide an opportunity to unpoz the game. If there is an annoying lesson ingame about genderism/racism/homophobia/transphobia ad adfinitum, a mod could provide a violent solution or a witty comeback to the 'woke' NPC inserted by the creators of the game. Such scenarios could even be turned on their heads, providing the exact opposite lesson.
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skinandbones13: It's so funny reading these forums now.

I love that GOG has become a hotspot for reactionary dipshits who lost what little brains they had over Gamergate. They whine about wanting games to be devoid of politics yet see "SJW propaganda" in every single game and game developer whose "views"" (real or implied) they don't like.

Absolutely not suprised that they worship the grifter Jungian pyschologist (not much logic to be found in that "intellectual" field), Jordon Peterson.
I totally agree.

And, since you're on here regurgitating what you've heard on whatever platform supports your views without actually having watched or read anything RE: Jordan Peterson (I'm assuming) - you should feel right at home. ;)

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mailinglistenato: Hopefully this game with be moddable. That will provide an opportunity to unpoz the game. If there is an annoying lesson ingame about genderism/racism/homophobia/transphobia ad adfinitum, a mod could provide a violent solution or a witty comeback to the 'woke' NPC inserted by the creators of the game. Such scenarios could even be turned on their heads, providing the exact opposite lesson.
The way I see it:

- if they have good writers, it'll be barely noticeable, because the characters will be well written so their gender identity won't be all there is to them.

- on the other hand, if they have bad writers, the gender-identity characters will be so in your face as to be unbearable and annoying - which may actually be more realistic (albeit unintentionally so).

Either way, I'm sure it'll be fine. Though I agree that the second option will almost certainly have the opposite effect of what they're trying to achieve from a "social justice" POV - but that's bad writers for you.

Currently it's confirmed that at least some of the writers are definitely really good, and points more to option one. The fact that we know more about the politics of the other writers, as opposed to their writing style or genre or anything - doesn't bode that well, and may result in option two for one or two characters.

We'll see.
Post edited March 27, 2019 by squid830
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skinandbones13: It's so funny reading these forums now.

I love that GOG has become a hotspot for reactionary dipshits who lost what little brains they had over Gamergate. They whine about wanting games to be devoid of politics yet see "SJW propaganda" in every single game and game developer whose "views"" (real or implied) they don't like.

Absolutely not suprised that they worship the grifter Jungian pyschologist (not much logic to be found in that "intellectual" field), Jordon Peterson.
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squid830: I totally agree.

And, since you're on here regurgitating what you've heard on whatever platform supports your views without actually having watched or read anything RE: Jordan Peterson (I'm assuming) - you should feel right at home. ;)
What have I regurgitated from other platforms?

I have read 12 Rules, I have seen his dull youtube lectures, I have seen click bait videos where he "destroys" feminists, I have even read his god awful first book about "Jungian archetypes" with the hilarious dragon diagram.

My favourite is I haven't seen one JBP sycophant summarise any of his so-called intellectual writing or his insights in any kind of intellectual, succint or meaningful way because he sure as hell can't do it himself. They just parrot the same stuff about never having read or seen his work and that he can destroy any leftist in an argument like its some kind of boxing match. Pure fantasy.
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squid830: I totally agree.

And, since you're on here regurgitating what you've heard on whatever platform supports your views without actually having watched or read anything RE: Jordan Peterson (I'm assuming) - you should feel right at home. ;)
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skinandbones13: My favourite is I haven't seen one JBP sycophant summarise any of his so-called intellectual writing or his insights in any kind of intellectual, succint or meaningful way because he sure as hell can't do it himself. They just parrot the same stuff about never having read or seen his work and that he can destroy any leftist in an argument like its some kind of boxing match. Pure fantasy.
Most people who support Jordan Peterson just happen to agree with his stances regarding equal opportunity versus forced equality, and his stances regarding freedom of speech being more important than not offending people. That pretty much sums it up.

Example: he believes in no one being discriminated against in the workforce, but he is against lame quotas to enforce ratios (whether males/females or ethnic groups or whatever). Which makes perfect sense since quotas have the effect of achieving the opposite of "equal opportunity" for obvious reasons - anyone advocating for them is effectively advocating a system of discrimination not that different to what previously existed (e.g. where white males got preferential treatment).

I'm happy to elaborate further if this is unclear.

If it's pure fantasy, show me one example from a credible source that shows Jordan Peterson ever getting defeated in an argument. Just one.
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skinandbones13: My favourite is I haven't seen one JBP sycophant summarise any of his so-called intellectual writing or his insights in any kind of intellectual, succint or meaningful way because he sure as hell can't do it himself. They just parrot the same stuff about never having read or seen his work and that he can destroy any leftist in an argument like its some kind of boxing match. Pure fantasy.
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squid830: Most people who support Jordan Peterson just happen to agree with his stances regarding equal opportunity versus forced equality, and his stances regarding freedom of speech being more important than not offending people. That pretty much sums it up.

Example: he believes in no one being discriminated against in the workforce, but he is against lame quotas to enforce ratios (whether males/females or ethnic groups or whatever). Which makes perfect sense since quotas have the effect of achieving the opposite of "equal opportunity" for obvious reasons - anyone advocating for them is effectively advocating a system of discrimination not that different to what previously existed (e.g. where white males got preferential treatment).

I'm happy to elaborate further if this is unclear.

If it's pure fantasy, show me one example from a credible source that shows Jordan Peterson ever getting defeated in an argument. Just one.
What you have stated isn't original, insightful or intellectual in any form. These are pretty standard conservative views and don't show any underlying nuance or deeper level of thinking. Please do elaborate and provide examples of what you think to be his most insightful thinking on these matters are.

Here is a good critique from Canadian philospher, Paul Thagard, who specialises in cognitive science. He lays out how weak Peterson's arguments are and provides numerous examples, for example how he totally misinterprets Heidegger.

https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/hot-thought/201802/jordan-peterson-s-flimsy-philosophy-life
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squid830: While I agree with you in that Jordan Peterson is an intelligent, articulate person who can debate anyone and win, he definitely appears to appeal more to the right-of-centre people due to his logical views on freedom of speech, and because he is against complete retardation coming from the left regarding things such as quotas.

He is definitely not a "supremacist", and whoever says that about him has either never read or watched anything he has produced or was in, or is a complete and utter moron.

However, while you have a right to your religious views, it's a bit ridiculous to claim any religion ever is only good and pure and has never been involved in anything evil. Have you ever looked into the history of the Catholic church? By which I mean the whole history, from foundation, through the middle ages, etc? Catholicism has a very dark history indeed.

The main reason it softened somewhat was because the Pope was ultimately stripped of most of his earthly power and possessions, and since then his political power has been minor.

Admittedly the catholic bible doesn't lend itself as easily to extremism as some other religions that actually have that stuff written in to their holy scriptures directly, but still...

Also, the fact that you think that a form of Judaism somehow gave birth to communism, makes me wonder whether you're being serious or some new breed of mega-troll. If the latter, well done! If the former, then please provide your references...
There is one thing you need to understand. Due to the active censorship on the internet coming from the Jewish controlled groups ('Murican Democrats, mainstream media, education, etc.) and their corporations Google (co-founders Larry Page ✡ and Sergei Brin ✡), YouTube (current owners Larry Page ✡ and Sergei Brin ✡), Facebook (founder and CEO Mark Zuckerberg ✡), Instagram (owner Mark Zuckerberg ✡), Twitter (most of their founders have some sketchy names, since Jews are known to change names and surnames thought the history, and these guys keep private their family background), and their online services PayPal (CEO Daniel Schulman ✡), their censorship group like the Anti-Defamation League (founder and CEO Jonathan Greenblatt ✡), Jewish Internet Defence Force (founder David Appletree ✡), all together work on the active anti-free speech censorship. Thus, don't expect me to have complete freedom of writing this down, as I have to auto-censor myself in this debate. Gog forum staff is not much different, and is not very tolerant regarding the free speech either.

I will however try to keep this rather short and auto-censored regarding Judaism and marxism, but I will drop some links from YouTube, so you can dive deeper into the rabbit hole.

One thing about Jordan Peterson, I don't think he can win all and any debates. This one caught him off-guard, and his response was luck-lustre as expected. He is not allowed to bite the hand that feeds him: https://youtu.be/mc3o4YmHJbc?t=23 regarding the debates against the judeo-leftists, anyone with a grain of brain can win arguments against them.

Regarding the Catholicism, I still haven't found a comment which can directly point out the flaws in the religion itself. You did mention some flaws of the Catholic church's past, but not about Catholic religion. Religion and church are two separate things. One is the spiritual food, guidance, healing and prophecy, the other is an institution run by common, mortal sinners. I do agree that every little stain in such institution turns into one big dirty laundry, but it was always magnified by the Jewish mainstream media and Illuminati education system (yeah, enlightenment guys are the Illuminati). You seem to only care about some bad things, but are you capable of seeing the grand and glorious things done by Catholic church like the early scientists, scholars and healers being the churchmen, the ones who spread literacy first to noblemen, then to common folk, that the early deans of most universities were precisely church scholars in some countries, that they had scientific branches within the church, that they were developing the medicine, that they were the patrons to some of the world's best and the most famous artists like painters, composers, etc., that they do the humanitarian work up to this day, and I could go on about it. Look at all the amazing Catholic church architecture and sacred geometry, which is a signiture of the European culture. Catholic church elevated European society to a very high standard. But most of you seem to focus on some bad stuff they did, again, because your brains are being trained to subconsciously relate the word "Catholic church" with the bad connotations, like in the Pavlov's dogs experiments. Also, what makes you think I have never studied about anti-Catholic church propaganda in elementary school/middle school/university or heard of the anti-Catholic church propaganda in news/doccumentaries/movies? Anyone who has been around in the world for a while got involved in hearing that. I hear that almost on regular basis on the national frequencies channels. But I have learned to read between the lines, and to distinguish a total conspiratorial propaganda from the events that might have happened, or have some truth in them.

Now, links between Judaism and marxism. Have you ever heard of what Marthin Luther had to say about the Jewish Talmud? This one is powerful and very eye opening:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CKNzKz2EEfI&bpctr=1553702892 (this video will soon be deleted, it was already put in the YouTube gulag)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rF9hITGJtxQ

Dennis Prager, the founder of the PragerU: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jirPUjrqQP8
In this video, Dennis said: "Marxism is a secular Messianism." "The most pro-communist press in the 1930's outside of the Soviet Union or inside of the United States was a Yidish press." "Jews love -isms."

Look at this guy, he made this short video on PragerU, owned by Dennis: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OYPS-9N2IP4
He was in love with Alex Jones: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YArOgZzZOM8
Few days ago, he got red-pilled regarding Alex Jones: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FLUTa_AztEI

I can't write much more, but I have plenty of stuff to add. I had to keep it short. Watch these:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HGrXRquWYz0 Specially pay attention to 17:26 rabbi, and find out who is teaching the left that they are unique, special snowflakes.
Jewish rabbi explains why people hate one of the world's most hated man in history: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=axhPNwcop1A
More food for the thought: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LUh09JllrdQ
International marxism vs international nationalism: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ndyNUYzDdZo

Communist elites: Maxim Litvinov (real name: Meir Henoch Wallach-Finkelstein), Lev Zakharovich Mekhlis, Lazar Moiseyevich Kaganovich, Yemelian Mikhailovich Yaroslavsky (real name: Minei Izrailevich Gubelman), Joseph Stalin (Ioseb Besarionis Dze Jughashvili), Karl Marx, Vladimir Ilyich Lenin (real surname: Ulyanov), Leon Trotsky (real name: Lev Davidovich Bronstein), Genrikh Grigoryevich Yagoda, Grigory Yevseyevich Zinoviev (real name: Hirsch Apfelbaum), all Jews.

Communist financiers: Jacob Schiff, Chaim Weizmann, Robert Waley Cohen, Henry Strakosch, Tivadar Soros, Bernard Baruch, Louis Brandeis, Felix Frankfurter, Stephen Samuel Wise, Henry Morgenthau, Rockefeller, Oppenheimer and Rothschild family. All Jews.

Financial system: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hLUGn3N7jBg

Henry Ford's 4 books about the international Jewry: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_International_Jew It is interesting to note that he published in 1921 what might be the outcome for the Jews in Germany, not because of the "evil, white, heterosexual" Germans, but because of the Jewish behaviour towards the German people.

Follow these channels from time to time and watch their older videos:
Know More News: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCaRjFptz7970mppuiGuZtpQ
Brother Nathanael: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCtBqVgzL_cDv_t9o2hFiXXg
Red Ice TV: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCFUC7NaTxZanB_FVOJN92eg
Ken O'Keefe: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCZYZh4I9iDGSdjMpuxlzD0g

I can't add anymore more, as I am not allowed to.
Post edited March 27, 2019 by Wishmaster777
Do vampires even have genders? Hmm.....