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Grargar: If such a thread is created, we know [url=http://www.gog.com/forum/general/pirates_of_the_caribbean_online/post102 ]who [/url]we will get to blame for it.
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P1na: Now I feel really tempted to start it myself.
Note for the future : if we do troll awards 2015 at the end of the year, I will probably pin my vote on the p1ñapl ;-)

Edit : added reference to culprit
Post edited January 23, 2015 by Potzato
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GabiMoro: It's also the "be glad" part. If I'll use this words in my reply to you I'm sure you'll find it offensive.
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HijacK: Don't talk as if you have any idea of how I would react. This, and the "be glad" part is a pure statement that there is still something for them out there. If they are dumbass enough to get offended by that, then their place is on some rage fest forum on the internet, not here. Not to mention "be glad" is a daily used statement that reinforces a counter argument to a positive outcome, so getting butt hurt over this is plain stupid.

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GabiMoro: Those 100 people would bother the other customers because of the screaming. I'd agree with you if these guys had created lots of new threads on the forum like "POTCO is great, vote for it" and so on. But they only voted on 1 wislist and created 1 question topic. That's all.
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HijacK: Here's the thing, one wish on the wishlist with crap spam comments is more than enough. Their desire is for GOG to bring an MMO to the store, a game that basically has DRM. There's a plain conflict of interests here. They want something many people don't due to other potential effects. This, and it's really hard not to feel a bit ill when people follow a herder like sheep and don't even have the brain cells to inform themselves.

I like how many of them thought GOG would remake the thing. That certainly made those forum users who read the comments feel for their cause. /end sarcasm
"dumbass", "stupid", "crap", "sheep"

You are one angry person, aren't you?
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GabiMoro: You weren't nice :) You crushed their hope like you crush a bug under your shoe. You guys have told them the truth, but in a harsh way.
Imagine going to a hospital and a doctor saying to you : "Your friend (mother, father, son etc) is dead. Every people is on a borrowed time. They are born, live and die. Get over it." (it's true after all).

....and yes, some people consider their MMO more important than a relative :)
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CarrionCrow: I said I was trying. Comparatively, it was. The comment itself was not.

Course, reading up on the subject and seeing that anyone with two working brain cells should have seen the writing on the wall considering that Disney hadn't done anything to update or otherwise improve the game in over a year probably didn't help to facilitate a more understanding position.

It was more along the lines of, "Wow. Did you all seriously not get it? The developers stopped giving a damn long ago, how could you not see that?"

Then, I looked at gameplay video to get a better glimpse of things.
The game looked like crap.

But, rather than implying that some people are kinda frigging dim, not to mention being enormous suckers for continuing to pay real money for a game with no ending that you ultimately have no control over, to people who'd already stopped caring, I said what I did.

Almost forgot....I actually was being nice in one way. I said that sometimes I felt okay about people, rather than saying really godsdamned rarely.
For me, that's progress. =)
I agree. I LOVED POTCO, but I think everyone that had played the game probably should have saw the end coming. Also some people on the POTCO wishlist sadly can't tell the difference between trolling the fans of that game and people that actually have legitimate points about why the game (highly likely) won't be on GOG. That's kind of ignorant on a lot of people's part. I voted to help a bit but my hopes aren't that high. Either way I've moved on to other games, so I won't be too upset over POTCO, and I respect opinions over the game.
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HijacK: Don't talk as if you have any idea of how I would react. This, and the "be glad" part is a pure statement that there is still something for them out there. If they are dumbass enough to get offended by that, then their place is on some rage fest forum on the internet, not here. Not to mention "be glad" is a daily used statement that reinforces a counter argument to a positive outcome, so getting butt hurt over this is plain stupid.

Here's the thing, one wish on the wishlist with crap spam comments is more than enough. Their desire is for GOG to bring an MMO to the store, a game that basically has DRM. There's a plain conflict of interests here. They want something many people don't due to other potential effects. This, and it's really hard not to feel a bit ill when people follow a herder like sheep and don't even have the brain cells to inform themselves.

I like how many of them thought GOG would remake the thing. That certainly made those forum users who read the comments feel for their cause. /end sarcasm
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GabiMoro: "dumbass", "stupid", "crap", "sheep"

You are one angry person, aren't you?
I find it ironic when people assume I'm angry because I use "harsh" words to express myself, whatever that may mean given multitude of context. These words exist for expression more or less. If you are waiting for me to show sympathy and express how sad I am for their beloved game to be gone, then you're waiting in vain. This and I wouldn't get angry and waste my brain cells for nobodies on the internet whom I don't even know more in depth than their username.

Tell me, would it be fair to categorize you as mellow just because you use mellow words, often colorless? No, because that's just how you express yourself on the internet. But alas, I don't see what your point is anyway. I said once let's agree we disagree. Yet I see you continue for some unknown reason to change my stance on a bunch of individuals whom I don't even know outside of the fact they conflict my interests. Don't get me wrong. I'm entertained you're using your energy on me. I just don't see the reason behind it. Seems pointless to me. Changing an individual's stance when you have nothing to gain does not work as the fundamental law of economics states.
Post edited January 23, 2015 by HijacK
Although the majority of the votes are due to a misinformed community, the pure disrespect of the GOG crowd is what drives me crazy. 95% of the people who are stating hateful messages have never even played, or most likely heard of the game before it was posted to the wishlist. Although POTCO may stand as a long shot from being produced from GOG, GOG is already in affiliation with Disney and it could be used as a tool to spread the message.

This seems to be one of the rudest, and most unfriendly communities I've seen if they discourage the reformation of any closed down game. That's what the community here was established upon, to play old games. Although it is important to have the terms set straight and the message spread, people should not go insulting a game they never played, or really got into. The whole community should feel sympathy to a closed down game as everyone here has most likely lost a game and know how it felt.

(Don't bash me with "welcome to the internet" or there is "free speech." I'm aware of this. The point is that the many people that are immersed around a community that remakes games, would discriminates so heavily on one improbable remake -- or even blame it on trolls. It is terrible that the GOG community has stooped to this level, even insulting the people who are misinformed.)
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GabiMoro: "dumbass", "stupid", "crap", "sheep"

You are one angry person, aren't you?
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HijacK: I find it ironic when people assume I'm angry because I use "harsh" words to express myself, whatever that may mean given multitude of context. These words exist for expression more or less. If you are waiting for me to show sympathy and express how sad I am for their beloved game to be gone, then you're waiting in vain. This and I wouldn't get angry and waste my brain cells for nobodies on the internet whom I don't even know more in depth than their username.

Tell me, would it be fair to categorize you as mellow just because you use mellow words, often colorless? No, because that's just how you express yourself on the internet. But alas, I don't see what your point is anyway. I said once let's agree we disagree. Yet I see you continue for some unknown reason to change my stance on a bunch of individuals whom I don't even know outside of the fact they conflict my interests. Don't get me wrong. I'm entertained you're using your energy on me. I just don't see the reason behind it. Seems pointless to me. Changing an individual's stance when you have nothing to gain does not work as the fundamental law of economics states.
My point is: "GOG is no longer one of the best communities on the internet".
And it's getting worse every day.
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Coolgamerdude: Although the majority of the votes are due to a misinformed community, the pure disrespect of the GOG crowd is what drives me crazy. 95% of the people who are stating hateful messages have never even played, or most likely heard of the game before it was posted to the wishlist. Although POTCO may stand as a long shot from being produced from GOG, GOG is already in affiliation with Disney and it could be used as a tool to spread the message.

This seems to be one of the rudest, and most unfriendly communities I've seen if they discourage the reformation of any closed down game. That's what the community here was established upon, to play old games. Although it is important to have the terms set straight and the message spread, people should not go insulting a game they never played, or really got into. The whole community should feel sympathy to a closed down game as everyone here has most likely lost a game and know how it felt.

(Don't bash me with "welcome to the internet" or there is "free speech." I'm aware of this. The point is that the many people that are immersed around a community that remakes games, would discriminates so heavily on one improbable remake -- or even blame it on trolls. It is terrible that the GOG community has stooped to this level, even insulting the people who are misinformed.)
but gog is only affiliated with disney for lucasarts games nothing more
you seem to thing gog has some sort of clout they can throw around or can strong arm disney in to co operating

as well as the fact that pirates online is an MMO gog doesnt do mmo's
they dont have the infrastructure or the financial means to do so

and dont point to galaxy thats an optional client and multiplayer client for games with multiplayer components which is something entitrely different then an always on mmo

and lets not point fingers here shall we ?

both communities are to blame

the pirates community is short sighted and borderline delusional in thinking gog could even hope to ressurect
pirates online
as well as branding everybody who disagrees and comes up with valid points as a dissident troll ( dont deney it go and look at the comments on the voting thread )

the gog community is rude crude unfriendly and doesnt mince words and crushes dreams
no bullshit just the cold ugly truth and reality

coudl it have been sugar coated ? sure
but both communities are beligerent and neither are in a good light

and the pirates onlien community seems to cling on to this farfetched hope that gog will ressurect their game and are unwilling to believe or even hear otherwise

and you wonder why the two clash

i said it before the only hope this game has is pirates rewritten and private servers
and neither are affiliated with gog
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HijacK: I find it ironic when people assume I'm angry because I use "harsh" words to express myself, whatever that may mean given multitude of context. These words exist for expression more or less. If you are waiting for me to show sympathy and express how sad I am for their beloved game to be gone, then you're waiting in vain. This and I wouldn't get angry and waste my brain cells for nobodies on the internet whom I don't even know more in depth than their username.

Tell me, would it be fair to categorize you as mellow just because you use mellow words, often colorless? No, because that's just how you express yourself on the internet. But alas, I don't see what your point is anyway. I said once let's agree we disagree. Yet I see you continue for some unknown reason to change my stance on a bunch of individuals whom I don't even know outside of the fact they conflict my interests. Don't get me wrong. I'm entertained you're using your energy on me. I just don't see the reason behind it. Seems pointless to me. Changing an individual's stance when you have nothing to gain does not work as the fundamental law of economics states.
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GabiMoro: My point is: "GOG is no longer one of the best communities on the internet".
And it's getting worse every day.
I don't recall stating GOG is one of the best communities on the internet in this discussion in the first place. I'll admit it has gone downhill percentage wise. While the great members of the community are still around, a lot of scammers, leechers, and trolls have joined. But even yet still, while the before mentioned is the case, the community still holds strong. And I still see thins whole fiasco as a conflict of interests.
Post edited January 24, 2015 by HijacK
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HijacK: a game that basically has DRM.
And Gog Galaxy won't?

I wasn't going to post on this thread at all, I'm amazed that it's still going after a week in fact.

The Potco community of pirate rpg'ers is alive and well as you can see by the number of votes for the wish.

YES - we know the game has gone
YES - we've tried the petitions, writing to Disney, publicising the game, resurrecting it, moving on to other games.
YES - we know there is probably no chance at all that Gog would even give it a second glance
YES - Potco was a pretty horrific game, graphically and mechanically but we paid to play it because of the community there. Whatever Disney did, they enabled the building of a strong, caring, enthusiastic community of teens, tweens and adults. Plus the fact you could sail with a crew and the combat was pretty fun too.
YES - we now realise that the Gog community is willing to pass judgement on anything that doesn't fit their notions of how or what Gog is about or even what constitutes a good game.
YES - we know we should 'get a life', 'get over it', 'move on'.

Even so. We'll keep trying to get some remnant of this game back. It was unique.

Any publicity is good publicity and reasoned debate or advice is welcomed.

What brought me here initially was the search for companies that were in the business of resurrecting 'Good old Games'. Gog having a relationship with Disney already, added to that impetus. Who's to say they won't want to resurrect old mmo's AT SOME POINT? There are enough old mmo's around now that could be classed as classics. As for Doom/Hexen and the like? Been there done that.

Gog is changing direction, a quick glance at the financial statements published by their parent company shows that they are heading in the direction of mobile gaming (Witcher Arena) and adding more modern, more multi-player games to their store. They're wanting to challenge steam as a platform, their Galaxy will allow cross platform play of modern and old multi-player games.


We grasp at straws. We'd be happy with a multi-player, we'd be happy if the code was released so we could resurrect it ourselves (it hasn't been). We'd be happy if there was at least some dialogue about it, but there isn't, we've been cast adrift with no closure.

All I can say is, you'd have to have been there to know what we're talking about.
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HijacK: a game that basically has DRM.
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KatTruewalker: And Gog Galaxy won't?
gog galaxy is OPTIONAL

you dont have to use it
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Coolgamerdude: Although the majority of the votes are due to a misinformed community, the pure disrespect of the GOG crowd is what drives me crazy. 95%
And exactly what's your basis for that percentage? What exactly makes you believe your community deserves respect in the first place?

Your basis for that percentage is nothing, and the context in which it is used may mean dozens of things. 95% of the people who commented on this fiasco may as well mean 19 out 20 people who bothered with it, while this community has thousands of users. While you may feel offended we don't want your game here since it conflicts with the current policy GOG has, pulling numbers out of nowhere not only will not help, it will make your community look worse. And please, what kind of respect would your community show if when PotCO was running suddenly the fanbase of another MMO started requesting Disney to support their MMO at the cost of yours? I'll tell you what kind. None! Since all people in your community can do is either ignore and dismiss others as "trolls" when they conflict their interest and can only reply with "piss off" and "you''re a retard", I doubt you would've done any better, so spare me the hypocrisy.
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KatTruewalker: And Gog Galaxy won't?
See, here's the thing. If you were any remotely informed like you should have been, you would have known by now Galaxy is not only optional, it works as a multiplayer server host for many actual old games, for which, by the way, there are already many third party hosts of servers for.

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KatTruewalker: The Potco community of pirate rpg'ers is alive and well as you can see by the number of votes for the wish.
Irrelevant to my interests.

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KatTruewalker: YES - we know the game has gone
YES - we've tried the petitions, writing to Disney, publicising the game, resurrecting it, moving on to other games.
YES - we know there is probably no chance at all that Gog would even give it a second glance
YES - Potco was a pretty horrific game, graphically and mechanically but we paid to play it because of the community there. Whatever Disney did, they enabled the building of a strong, caring, enthusiastic community of teens, tweens and adults. Plus the fact you could sail with a crew and the combat was pretty fun too.
YES - we now realise that the Gog community is willing to pass judgement on anything that doesn't fit their notions of how or what Gog is about or even what constitutes a good game.
YES - we know we should 'get a life', 'get over it', 'move on'.
Well then, if you thought GOG community was rude, you should have tried the Sony Online forums. Your community would have been horrified.

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KatTruewalker: Even so. We'll keep trying to get some remnant of this game back. It was unique.
And we will be here to fight it.

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KatTruewalker: What brought me here initially was the search for companies that were in the business of resurrecting 'Good old Games'.
Am I missing something? You game is not even close to "old" as some of GOG's games are and even less so good. You yourself said the game was a mess with the only thing going for it being the community. That is no basis for a good game.

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KatTruewalker: Gog having a relationship with Disney already, added to that impetus.
If you had informed yourself, that relationship is with Lucas Arts specifically and only for a limited number of games.

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KatTruewalker: Who's to say they won't want to resurrect old mmo's AT SOME POINT?
If and when that happens, GOG has to make sure it has a big enough user base to suffer the loss of many people leaving for good. But back to this, I say it won't happen any time soon. Why? Because when stores like Humble Store, DotEmu, and GOG are thriving with DRM free games, why change and hurt your business in a monopoly held by Steam?

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KatTruewalker: and adding more modern, more multi-player games to their store.
They are adding indie games, yes, but that is because many users of this community DEMANDED these indie games, veteran users, might I add. As for multiplayer games, check your facts. The vast majority of multiplayer games are old games with few indie ones that support this component being multiplayer.

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KatTruewalker: They're wanting to challenge steam as a platform, their Galaxy will allow cross platform play of modern and old multi-player games.
Oh, and this is where GOG will thrive in its pursuit due to being DRM-FREE. Here's the thing, dude. If you had any notion of politics you would understand that the addition of an MMO to the store would drastically change GOG's policy and stance on DRM. If GOG changes that, then publishers will start pushing for DRM'd single player games, because why not? It's a matter of staying true to your creed and loyal to the actual user base that makes you money.

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KatTruewalker: We grasp at straws. We'd be happy with a multi-player, we'd be happy if the code was released so we could resurrect it ourselves (it hasn't been). We'd be happy if there was at least some dialogue about it, but there isn't, we've been cast adrift with no closure.
Tell me, how often do you see big companies like Disney giving their code away for free just to please someone? I've never personally seen this happen.

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KatTruewalker: All I can say is, you'd have to have been there to know what we're talking about.
I don't think so. I was there when many of the multiplayer games I've played on consoles closed their servers and when entire communities fell. Yours is no different.
Post edited January 24, 2015 by HijacK
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Coolgamerdude: Although the majority of the votes are due to a misinformed community, the pure disrespect of the GOG crowd is what drives me crazy. 95% of the people who are stating hateful messages have never even played, or most likely heard of the game before it was posted to the wishlist. Although POTCO may stand as a long shot from being produced from GOG, GOG is already in affiliation with Disney and it could be used as a tool to spread the message.

This seems to be one of the rudest, and most unfriendly communities I've seen if they discourage the reformation of any closed down game. That's what the community here was established upon, to play old games. Although it is important to have the terms set straight and the message spread, people should not go insulting a game they never played, or really got into. The whole community should feel sympathy to a closed down game as everyone here has most likely lost a game and know how it felt.

(Don't bash me with "welcome to the internet" or there is "free speech." I'm aware of this. The point is that the many people that are immersed around a community that remakes games, would discriminates so heavily on one improbable remake -- or even blame it on trolls. It is terrible that the GOG community has stooped to this level, even insulting the people who are misinformed.)
...you DO understand that GOG does not remake games, correct? They release them to run on modern systems, that's all.
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KatTruewalker: YES - we know the game has gone
YES - we've tried the petitions, writing to Disney, publicising the game, resurrecting it, moving on to other games.
YES - we know there is probably no chance at all that Gog would even give it a second glance
YES - Potco was a pretty horrific game, graphically and mechanically but we paid to play it because of the community there. Whatever Disney did, they enabled the building of a strong, caring, enthusiastic community of teens, tweens and adults. Plus the fact you could sail with a crew and the combat was pretty fun too.
YES - we now realise that the Gog community is willing to pass judgement on anything that doesn't fit their notions of how or what Gog is about or even what constitutes a good game.
YES - we know we should 'get a life', 'get over it', 'move on'.
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HijacK: Well then, if you thought GOG community was rude, you should have tried the Sony Online forums. Your community would have been horrified.
What do the Sony Online forums do that's rude? I haven't had a single experience with them, and sorry for asking by the way. Just curious.
Post edited January 26, 2015 by Coolioking
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KatTruewalker: YES - we know the game has gone
YES - we've tried the petitions, writing to Disney, publicising the game, resurrecting it, moving on to other games.
YES - we know there is probably no chance at all that Gog would even give it a second glance
YES - Potco was a pretty horrific game, graphically and mechanically but we paid to play it because of the community there. Whatever Disney did, they enabled the building of a strong, caring, enthusiastic community of teens, tweens and adults. Plus the fact you could sail with a crew and the combat was pretty fun too.
YES - we now realise that the Gog community is willing to pass judgement on anything that doesn't fit their notions of how or what Gog is about or even what constitutes a good game.
YES - we know we should 'get a life', 'get over it', 'move on'.
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Coolioking:
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HijacK: Well then, if you thought GOG community was rude, you should have tried the Sony Online forums. Your community would have been horrified.
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Coolioking: What do the Sony Online forums do that's rude? I haven't had a single experience with them, and sorry for asking by the way. Just curious.
Your request would be totally dismissed on a basis that is purely childish and that the game is not on par with today's quality requirements. Add in some arrogant speech patterns with very eloquent vocabulary and most of those who voted for the game wouldn't even have understood that their game was basically insulted.
Post edited January 26, 2015 by HijacK