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Shadowstalker16: Just speaking from experience here; but most of the American TV shows I've watched and American news I've seen seem to convey that America is a platform for humans to display themselves; a country without a culture. Whats with that?

Anyhow; how about United Citizens of The Federation of States lying north of Mexico and south of Beib.....Canada?
And yet the irony is that culture is our biggest export, especially in regards to music. Blues, Bluegrass, Rap, Rock, Soul, R&B.
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tinyE: That's how they see the world. It is very twisted and very sad.
To her going to Michigan would be like you or I going to Beirut. We actually had guest at our inn who were from CA and they covered the beds over with their own blankets because they were afraid they might 'get' something from ours, and don't get me started on all the people who refuse to drink the water.
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drealmer7: I also am VERY WARY of drinking water from places, and will not drink any from any municipality. If I go on a trip I take two 5-gallon jugs of my own water. Fracking, fluoride, chlorine, and a million other particulate JUNK in the water all over the country because of how dirty people in the US are make the water questionable if you don't *know* where it is coming from and what has been done to it.
XD Not where I live. No chemicals, no treatment plants, no nothing, just a 260 ft well. And of course, the nearest town only having 80 people helps keep the pollution down.
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drealmer7: I've always felt like I was on a personal crusade to change how people from the US call themselves "americans." It is so friggen arrogant and closeminded and egocentric, just like most people from the US. For many many many years, I always confronted people using it, now I pick who I confront about it because most people don't even have the intellectual capacity to understand why it is an issue even after I explain it to them.

I think using personal states would make sense rather than ever saying the country. The US is sooo diverse and large, just say "New Yorker, Californian, Floridian, etc.
Or maybe, just broaden the meaning to encompass anyone from the North or South American continent. An American is an American is an American.
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LiquidOxygen80: gringo
guai lo
gaijin
asshole
yank
yankee

Eh, it's all the same to me.
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mangamuscle: Beg to differ. Gringo is not a peyorative in origin since it means "green go" since the soldiers that invaded Mexico for territorial annexation wore green. Si gringo is more than a sustantive, it is more like a verb since it implies a desired action.
Hey, I actually never knew that.
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Post edited April 10, 2015 by LiquidOxygen80
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drealmer7: I don't even eat food from california because of radiation from fukushima
Dude, seriously? They found radiation of up to 8 becquerel per cubic meter of sea water and only 2 becquerel can be attributed to Fukushima. That's 2 decaying nuclei per second. Those are trace amounts. The legal limit for drinking water is 7400 becquerel per cubic meter.

You are exposed to about 2.4 mSv of radiation per year just from natural isotopic decay of everything around you. The Fukushima radiation in California (cesium-134) is 3 billionth of a mSv per hour, or 2.6 millionth of a mSv per year. So thanks to Fukushima instead of 2.4 mSv you'd be exposed to 2.4000026 mSv per year. If you stayed in a cubic meter of Californian water for the entire year.

You catch more radiation simply from sitting next to people on the bus.
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LiquidOxygen80: And yet the irony is that culture is our biggest export, especially in regards to music. Blues, Bluegrass, Rap, Rock, Soul, R&B.
All of which can even more ironically be traced back to African roots...
Post edited April 10, 2015 by Randalator
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drealmer7:
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Randalator: You catch more radiation simply from sitting next to people on the bus.
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LiquidOxygen80:
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Randalator:
XD I don't know about Germany, but in the States you'd be lucky if radiation was the only thing you got from the people on the bus. :P
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drealmer7: I don't like a lot of the chemicals used to wash blankets/sheets (and have severe reactions to fabric softeners), so I could understand someone doing that. I also am VERY WARY of drinking water from places, and will not drink any from any municipality. If I go on a trip I take two 5-gallon jugs of my own water. Fracking, fluoride, chlorine, and a million other particulate JUNK in the water all over the country because of how dirty people in the US are make the water questionable if you don't *know* where it is coming from and what has been done to it.
God, that just sounds so tiring...
I don't care they sprouted Michael Jackson can't be that bad :p
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drealmer7: I don't like a lot of the chemicals used to wash blankets/sheets (and have severe reactions to fabric softeners), so I could understand someone doing that. I also am VERY WARY of drinking water from places, and will not drink any from any municipality. If I go on a trip I take two 5-gallon jugs of my own water. Fracking, fluoride, chlorine, and a million other particulate JUNK in the water all over the country because of how dirty people in the US are make the water questionable if you don't *know* where it is coming from and what has been done to it.
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budejovice: God, that just sounds so tiring...
It is. It's also paranoid. XD I live in the boondocks where everything is ultra clean, but even in industrial civilized society that is overkill.
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drealmer7: I don't even eat food from california because of radiation from fukushima
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Randalator: Dude, seriously? They found radiation of up to 8 becquerel per cubic meter of sea water and only 2 becquerel can be attributed to Fukushima. That's 2 decaying nuclei per second. Those are trace amounts. The legal limit for drinking water is 7400 becquerel per cubic meter.

You are exposed to about 2.4 mSv of radiation per year just from natural isotopic decay of everything around you. The Fukushima radiation in California (cesium-134) is 3 billionth of a mSv per hour, or 2.6 millionth of a mSv per year. So thanks to Fukushima instead of 2.4 mSv you'd be exposed to 2.4000026 mSv per year. If you stayed in a cubic meter of Californian water for the entire year.

You catch more radiation simply from sitting next to people on the bus.
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LiquidOxygen80: And yet the irony is that culture is our biggest export, especially in regards to music. Blues, Bluegrass, Rap, Rock, Soul, R&B.
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Randalator: All of which can even more ironically be traced back to African roots...
I'm pretty sure Bluegrass didn't originate in Africa, my friend. Same for most country music and its offshoots and subgenres. As for the rest, hip hop and rock is uniquely US, because its the environment that fostered and allowed those genres to flourish, grow, prosper and eventually mainstream. US culture IS the culture of the melting pot of cultures that constitute it, and it's highly ignorant to simply say that the USA has no culture because it didn't invent the drum, or the guitar, when it's US citizens found new ways to use them all.

Realistically, the biggest thing that Africa has in common with blues, soul or hiphop, has nothing to do with music and everything to do with poverty.
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tinyE: That's how they see the world. It is very twisted and very sad.
To her going to Michigan would be like you or I going to Beirut. We actually had guest at our inn who were from CA and they covered the beds over with their own blankets because they were afraid they might 'get' something from ours, and don't get me started on all the people who refuse to drink the water.
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drealmer7: I don't like a lot of the chemicals used to wash blankets/sheets (and have severe reactions to fabric softeners), so I could understand someone doing that. I also am VERY WARY of drinking water from places, and will not drink any from any municipality. If I go on a trip I take two 5-gallon jugs of my own water. Fracking, fluoride, chlorine, and a million other particulate JUNK in the water all over the country because of how dirty people in the US are make the water questionable if you don't *know* where it is coming from and what has been done to it.
Get a Berkey filter. I've got one. It turns grungy water into crystal clear spring water. Takes out like 95% of contaminants. Well worth the money.
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Randalator: Dude, seriously? They found radiation of up to 8 becquerel per cubic meter of sea water and only 2 becquerel can be attributed to Fukushima. That's 2 decaying nuclei per second. Those are trace amounts. The legal limit for drinking water is 7400 becquerel per cubic meter.

You are exposed to about 2.4 mSv of radiation per year just from natural isotopic decay of everything around you. The Fukushima radiation in California (cesium-134) is 3 billionth of a mSv per hour, or 2.6 millionth of a mSv per year. So thanks to Fukushima instead of 2.4 mSv you'd be exposed to 2.4000026 mSv per year. If you stayed in a cubic meter of Californian water for the entire year.

You catch more radiation simply from sitting next to people on the bus.

All of which can even more ironically be traced back to African roots...
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LiquidOxygen80: I'm pretty sure Bluegrass didn't originate in Africa, my friend. Same for most country music and its offshoots and subgenres. As for the rest, hip hop and rock is uniquely US, because its the environment that fostered and allowed those genres to flourish, grow, prosper and eventually mainstream. US culture IS the culture of the melting pot of cultures that constitute it, and it's highly ignorant to simply say that the USA has no culture because it didn't invent the drum, or the guitar, when it's US citizens found new ways to use them all.

Realistically, the biggest thing that Africa has in common with blues, soul or hiphop, has nothing to do with music and everything to do with poverty.
Actually, most if not all of the exported American styles you mentioned originated in Irish Folk which was brought by the Irish immigrants and developed a life of it's own there.
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LiquidOxygen80: I'm pretty sure Bluegrass didn't originate in Africa, my friend. Same for most country music and its offshoots and subgenres. As for the rest, hip hop and rock is uniquely US, because its the environment that fostered and allowed those genres to flourish, grow, prosper and eventually mainstream. US culture IS the culture of the melting pot of cultures that constitute it, and it's highly ignorant to simply say that the USA has no culture because it didn't invent the drum, or the guitar, when it's US citizens found new ways to use them all.

Realistically, the biggest thing that Africa has in common with blues, soul or hiphop, has nothing to do with music and everything to do with poverty.
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Klumpen0815: Actually, most if not all of the exported American styles you mentioned originated in Irish Folk which was brought by the Irish immigrants and developed a life of it's own there.
Right, but the US is where they all evolved, which was my main point. Further irony is that its roots also are originated in poverty, which I think is the common thread that ties all of them together.
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Klumpen0815: Actually, most if not all of the exported American styles you mentioned originated in Irish Folk which was brought by the Irish immigrants and developed a life of it's own there.
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LiquidOxygen80: Right, but the US is where they all evolved, which was my main point. Further irony is that its roots also are originated in poverty, which I think is the common thread that ties all of them together.
Yes and ironically, the Uilleann Pipes (which originated in the never so popular and now forgotten Scottish pastoral pipes), the symbol of the evolution of Irish Folk in America, are one of the most expensive (set of) instruments I know of in relation to the size.
Post edited April 11, 2015 by Klumpen0815
Sorry if someone's brought this up already, but there's a kind of cute song by The Arrogant Worms on this very subject.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=29g57XTYgLE#t=12