I surely am one of those people. Knowing how it feels to be mugged and bashed will surely teach you this. Perhaps you could go to a gym and enter a boxing ring and see how your words fair against his fists. Expect for publishing if of private information, sticks and stone may brake your bones but words will never hurt you.

It is also against the rules to discuss real world politics or politicians.

Enough with the comparisons to business that don't even resemble what GOG does. Twice already you have broken the rules without even realizing it. The last thing we need is GOG turning into Resetera.
resetera with power is nightmare fuel. Also yes, absolutely this will open gog to a class action lawsuit.


XD You now have me thinking about North Koren fetish porn, maybe there's some truth to it with all the love of submitting to lose of rights I'm seeing here.

For many voicing their concerns, I honestly believe its (partly) a case of TL;DR....i.e. they didn't read prior terms/etc, and now that they have they're worried about some bits.

That said, I think there's some things (both written and unwritten) worth being somewhat interested about
in the new terms as well(like the new copyright rules and how they will be enforced come next month).
If we're talking about physically, then no. Heck, even if we're talking about severe mental hurt**, then this is often also no.
(**I don't count people feeling upset for a little while as severe mental hurt. Also if a person gets severely upset mentally because of text online, then they likely have more severe underlying issues they should probably address via counseling/etc)

We're not.

Not only physical health is protected. There's keywords like "privacy" or "dignity" floating around in human rights, which are both not physical aspects.

Nope ... "politics" ... true. There is no rule against "politicians" however. And the fine being politically motivated ... that's what he says. The judges and the jury see it differently.

But the point is that everywhere in the world without exception the freedom of speech is not unlimited or better: What you say can have consequences, so why should it be different on this site?

Well, you happily participated in both cases and did so before I answered to you. So sure, let's not.

Don't make up the rules that are not there. The example shows that while there is freedom of speech, there are also consequences. And it doesn't matter that in this case it was a politician instead of an actor or a baker. Trying to scare somebody with your fictional rule and trying to suggest to a mod reading this thread to take action based on your fictional rule is futile.

https://support.gog.com/hc/en-us/articles/115001814049-Forum-Code-of-Conduct?product=gog

Congratulations, you can't read. Mentioning a politician is not inherently political. Like you wrote in the other thread, see the context.

says who? It says "Political discussions not related to a video game are not permitted."

That could apply to mentioning Trump. Especially if I responded and the whole thing turned into a political conversation. Are you really so dense that you don't see whats going on here? You think GOG is adding rule 3.3 without intending to use it.

3.3. Please mind that in the most severe cases, your whole GOG account may be
banned. If your GOG account is banned, you may lose all rights to games you
have in your library, any GOG Wallet balances and other items that you may
have purchased or claimed.

If this doesn't scare you, it should.

It means he thinks your account is fake. That it's was made and used to purchase two games on a dime so you could troll.
It's also an excuse for him not to address your points, because he can't.

Says me. I can't tell if you're ignoring the context, you can't understand it or you're simply trying to derail the thread. I'll repeat one last time - it served to show that everything has consequences, even the free speech, hence the forum CoC and moderation rules.


And no, it doesn't scare me. I don't have a problem with behaving like a civilized human being, and those rules are nothing new.

Internet problems sorry for the double post

Are you using bots to upvote your comments? lol. There will definitely be consequences when the code of conduct is changed so that gog can ban accounts for whatever reason they want to. You didn't even know how the rules are being broken or enforced, even after I highlited it for you. Oh well learn the hard way.

Their points have been addressed multiple times. It is futile to address them again.

The three threads about the user agreements are basically never ending loops. The worst part is that the OP hadn't the time to avoid this duplicate and find this thread
https://www.gog.com/forum/general/updated_gog_user_agreement_and_other_terms

Perhaps you should take the time to read that post yourself - in particular to do a text comparison between the old and new T&C's?

One of the additions is in the very first section:
Please read these terms carefully before you start using the GOG services - by using GOG services, you agree to be bound by this Agreement and any terms incorporated in it. [Please also be aware that by accepting the Agreement, you also accept other GOG rules that apply to GOG services, including: - Our Privacy Policy which explains what data we collect from you and how we protect it; - GOG Code of Conduct which is a set of rules you need to follow as part of our community, explaining what is (not) allowed on GOG and how we moderate content posted here; - Infringing Content and Copyright Policy which explains how you can report unlawful content on GOG and what happens when you do.

This is repeated in section 3.3: (changes in bold)
3.3 Your GOG account and GOG content are personal to you and cannot be shared with, sold, gifted or transferred to anyone else. Your access to and use of them is subject to GOG’s Privacy Policy and Code of Conduct which are updated or amended when necessary.

(previously this part was "subject to GOG’s rules which are set out here, as updated or amended when necessary").

Section 11.2 is new:
11.2 In addition to the above, below is the list of additional terms that apply to you when using GOG services. We do not want to repeat ourselves, but it is important to remember that if you fail to follow them, it will be a material breach of this Agreement, which could lead to a suspension or cancellation of your access to GOG services. Here is the list:

GOG Code of Conduct (link)
Infringing Content and Copyright Policy (link).

Section 17.2 has changed (changes in bold):
Our right to terminate the Agreement. If you materially breach this Agreement, we reserve the right to suspend or cancel your access to GOG services and GOG content. By material breach of the Agreement we mean a serious breach which could cause significant harm to GOG, GOG users, as well as, in particular breach of the provisions of section 11 above or GOG Code of Conduct. If we suspend or cancel your access to GOG services or GOG content we'll take reasonable steps to contact you to explain why we have done this and what (if anything) you can do as a result.

So it has been stated multiple times here and in the other thread that the GOG Code of Conduct is now part of the Terms and Conditions. Breaching the Code of Conduct did not allow GOG to (legally) terminate your account completely beforehand, but with the changes above, it now does.

GOG have the rights to suspend your account if you're violating their policies with the current user agreements. There was even an example of an user who got their account suspended after a ban. They have the same rights with the new user agreements for the same reasons. This has been mentioned multiple times too, but people here are completely ignoring it.

You currently have agreed this:
https://support.gog.com/hc/en-us/articles/115001814049-Forum-Code-of-Conduct?product=gog

"By logging into our forums, you are agreeing to the rules listed below and the GOG User Agreement found here."

The current GOG user agreements include this

"17.2. Our right to terminate the Agreement. If you materially breach this Agreement, we reserve the right to suspend or cancel your access to GOG services and GOG content. By material breach of the Agreement we mean a serious breach which could cause significant harm to GOG, GOG users, as well as, in particular breach of the provisions of section 11 above. If we suspend or cancel your access to GOG services or GOG content we'll take reasonable steps to contact you to explain why we've done this and what (if anything) you can do as a result."

and later in the Forum Code of Conduct you can read this:

"Violations of our rules may be met with removal of a message, a written warning, or a temporary or permanent ban from the server. If your offense violates the law, your account may be suspended and relevant authorities may be notified of your misconduct."

In extreme cases they will suspend the accounts with the current and the new user agreements.

You forgot to read section 11.1, especially paragraph (g).