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Posted February 09, 2019
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ConsulCaesar: The way I see it:

-The number of votes in the community wishlist means nothing. It's a mini-game for the community to have fun or, at most, a tool for GOG to negotiate deals when they want to bring a game here, not the other way around. It is not a contractual obligation for GOG, and there is no "threshold" number of votes which assures that a game will be released.
I think we need to be realistic with wishlists, there are limits to what we can wish and what GoG can fulfill. I think wishlists as a tool for GOG to negotiate deals is most accurate by showing the wishlist as demand that wants the supply.
Posted February 09, 2019
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I recommend reading this topic regarding this issue: https://rpgcodex.net/forums/index.php?threads/gog-turns-down-grimoire-for-publishing.126050/
There is no censoring there, unlike on GOG.
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ConsulCaesar: The way I see it:

-The number of votes in the community wishlist means nothing. It's a mini-game for the community to have fun or, at most, a tool for GOG to negotiate deals when they want to bring a game here, not the other way around. It is not a contractual obligation for GOG, and there is no "threshold" number of votes which assures that a game will be released.
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lumengloriosum: I think we need to be realistic with wishlists, there are limits to what we can wish and what GoG can fulfill. I think wishlists as a tool for GOG to negotiate deals is most accurate by showing the wishlist as demand that wants the supply.
You're probably right but it tells you something about how shitty GOG is if that is true. Incidentally I've asked GOG about Grimoire via feedback/support option and the response I got was that if I want their decision to change I should go to Grimoire wishlist and vote for it. The exact quote is this (in Polish):

Witam,

Dziękujemy za zainteresowanie. Pamiętaj, że możesz głosować na gry, które chciałbyś zobaczyć na GOG na naszej Liście życzeń społeczności: https://www.gog.com/wishlist/games/grimoire_heralds_of_the_winged_exemplar

Dziękujemy też za feedback, przekażemy go pod rozwagę odpowiednim zespołom. Zespół Pomocy GOG nie ma nic więcej do dodania w tej kwestii.

Pozdrawiam serdecznie,

Kind Regards,
Alenko
GOG Customer Support Team
I've also mentioned about recent negative changes to GOG (like removing GOGmixes, banning for non-politaclly correct views, even their own emplyess like Linko90), forbidding JudasIscariot to participate in RPG Codex discussions, etc. etc. but the rest of my post was ignored.
Post edited February 09, 2019 by goral
Posted February 09, 2019
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goral: I recommend reading this topic regarding this issue: https://rpgcodex.net/forums/index.php?threads/gog-turns-down-grimoire-for-publishing.126050/
There is no censoring there, unlike on GOG.
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you mean the forum where for example JudasIscariot is not allowed to post...
Posted February 09, 2019
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goral: I recommend reading this topic regarding this issue: https://rpgcodex.net/forums/index.php?threads/gog-turns-down-grimoire-for-publishing.126050/
There is no censoring there, unlike on GOG.
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amok: you mean the forum where for example JudasIscariot is not allowed to post...
Yes, which is strange considering their long lasting relationship (every time you use a GOG link on RPG Codex when you buy stuff, GOG gives money to RPG Codex admin, although it used to be more if DU is to believed). And JudasIscariot was very active (and helpful) on RPG Codex but when the management changed, forum rules changed and other things too. GOG is slowly becoming next Steam.
Post edited February 09, 2019 by goral
Posted February 09, 2019
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amok: you mean the forum where for example JudasIscariot is not allowed to post...
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goral: Yes, which is strange considering their long lasting relationship (every time you use a GOG link on RPG Codex when you buy stuff, GOG gives money to RPG Codex admin, although it used to be more if DU is to believed). And JudasIscariot was very active (and helpful) on RPG Codex but when the management changed, forum rules changed and other things too. GOG is slowly becoming next Steam.
but no censorship, then...
Posted February 09, 2019
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goral: You're probably right but it tells you something about how shitty GOG is if that is true. Incidentally I've asked GOG about Grimoire via feedback/support option and the response I got was that if I want their decision to change I should go to Grimoire wishlist and vote for it.
If the wishlist received a huge influx of votes, GoG cannot claim too niche, I wonder if GoG would then reverse the decision.
Posted February 09, 2019
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goral: You're probably right but it tells you something about how shitty GOG is if that is true. Incidentally I've asked GOG about Grimoire via feedback/support option and the response I got was that if I want their decision to change I should go to Grimoire wishlist and vote for it.
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lumengloriosum: If the wishlist received a huge influx of votes, GoG cannot claim too niche, I wonder if GoG would then reverse the decision.
Only if voting or the number of votes actually matters and is taken into account, of course.
Which by the looks of it is and probably never was the case.
Posted February 09, 2019
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lumengloriosum: If the wishlist received a huge influx of votes, GoG cannot claim too niche, I wonder if GoG would then reverse the decision.
I think the real reason is that GOG doesn't want to deal with the supposedly "difficult" dev. "Too niche" is just their standard excuse. Like your wife's headache ;-)
Posted February 09, 2019
Beyond pathetic.
GOG have no problems selling games one can only describe as "pure junk" to put it mildly, but a game that successfully captured the spirit of absolute classics like Wizardry? Oh noes, "too niche" for us.

Nothing lasts forever, I guess. GOG's going to the dogs of late.. rapidly.
Posted February 09, 2019
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ConsulCaesar: The way I see it:

-The number of votes in the community wishlist is not a contractual obligation for GOG, and there is no "threshold" number of votes which assures that a game will be released.
Bingo!
I'm always amazed when people bring the number of votes on the wishlist up as an argument which game(s) GOG has to(!) release.

Just yesterday someone (frothing with anger) claimed that (and here it comes) "the old rumour" that games get released here if they collect 500 votes on the community's wishlist obviously doesn't mean anything, anymore.

I mean, come on - he wrote it himself: "rumour".
How can it be that people don't know what the word rumour means.

I remember some years ago, we had one forum user who posted in every single new official thread as the first commentator.

Turned out months later (I believe someone asked him about it) that he had read the rumour (here it is again), that the first commentator under official threads receives a free gift from GOG.

Needless to say that wasn't true.

And when he got told that, he was pissed and angry at GOG, as if they would have broken some kind of invisible contract with him, that only he knew about.

Edit: deleted some generally fitting, but unrelated to the situation at hand, sentence.
Post edited February 09, 2019 by BreOl72
Posted February 09, 2019
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BreOl72: Bingo!
I'm always amazed when people bring the number of votes on the wishlist up as an argument which game(s) GOG has to(!) release.

Seemingly, for these people the fact, that these games are not GOG's property, but someone else's, is not important.

Just yesterday someone (frothing with anger) claimed that (and here it comes) "the old rumour" that games get released here if they collect 500 votes on the community's wishlist obviously doesn't mean anything, anymore.

I mean, come on - he wrote it himself: "rumour".
How can it be that people don't know what the word rumour means.

I remember some years ago, we had one forum user who posted in every single new official thread as the first commentator.

Turned out months later (I believe someone asked him about it) that he had read the rumour (here it is again), that the first commentator under official threads receives a free gift from GOG.

Needless to say that wasn't true.

And when he got told that, he was pissed and angry at GOG, as if they would have broken some kind of invisible contract with him, that only he knew about.
*facepalm*
Posted February 26, 2019
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So it turns out GOG has financial problems: https://kotaku.com/facing-financial-pressures-gog-quietly-lays-off-at-lea-1832879826

Serves you right for not allowing quality games like Grimoire.
Posted February 26, 2019
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goral: So it turns out GOG has financial problems: https://kotaku.com/facing-financial-pressures-gog-quietly-lays-off-at-lea-1832879826

Serves you right for not allowing quality games like Grimoire.
Don't worry, I'm sure GOG only needs to release a few more indie trash games like "Tesla vs Lovecraft" and they'll be back in the black!
Posted February 26, 2019
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goral: So it turns out GOG has financial problems: https://kotaku.com/facing-financial-pressures-gog-quietly-lays-off-at-lea-1832879826

Serves you right for not allowing quality games like Grimoire.
If its so quality, then why are the sales of it hot garbage over on Steam? Furthermore, Cleve has changed the price of that game twice already. Started off at 39.99 --->19.99--->9.99. Nobody does that if the sales are good. Its desperation.
Post edited February 26, 2019 by Kelefane
Posted February 26, 2019
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goral: So it turns out GOG has financial problems: https://kotaku.com/facing-financial-pressures-gog-quietly-lays-off-at-lea-1832879826

Serves you right for not allowing quality games like Grimoire.
Haha

We could raise more revenue for GOG by passing a hat around the forum than Grimoire would have generated.
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