Wait, were you just consulting our opinions or actually meant this to be a majority voting?

If you want an answer from me that's not "pick me!" then I support greek that it shouldn't be one of the kusu-blotunga lurkers, but can't honestly give a preference otherwise except that I'd rather not choose scene.

Also, if this is indeed a voting poll and not just a consultation, then you should at the very least step up and tell us your vote too. What do you think?

You think I didn't?

I didn't say you had a bias *against* them though. Biases can be either for or against, you know that already as demonstrated by the 2nd paragraph I just quoted. You picked and used the word "against" all by yourself. Curious.

That's why I said I'm now against your nomination: the possibility that you gave up one or zero teammates in order to make liberal(s) that appeared sympathetic to you look bad. With this possibility in mind, your defence of adalia and RW makes me uneasy. If it turns out after the game is over that you were indeed a liberal then I'll owe you an apology. If you are fascist though then good job trying to bring us down with you. It could all just be apophenia as you say, but even so right now you look suspicious.

I'm caught up, but will reply / snipe later. I'm going "Now is when they buss ZFR?". Unexpected but welcome development.

More importantly

@Lift
I have not commented seriously on the random drawing for your chancellor. You will see my implied opinion of it reading between the lines.

As you state and the majority would IMO agree, I am the safe play on the short term.
What are the benefits of leaving me benched for the potential next government?

1 - that I will be not term locked and the safe play for not Hitler
2 - that you can stir the pot with the call for suggestions for your chancellor and see what happens
3 - that you get to test a player in your gov

You will achieve all of these objectives by doing an exclusionary vote. Force everyone else - by which I mean refuse to nominate until everyone does it - to vote for someone not themselves. Let's get cards on the table.

If not me, then I say Scene should be your chancellor.

You see where this goes hopefully. It will be much much better for the 2nd benefit. We can ask people why they chose who they did. Scum does not have scumchat so chances are you will have a Liberal option coalesce. IF there's some tie, you can tie-break.

IMO Scene has enough liberal cred to compensate his scuzzyness - test him and make sure one way or another. Certainly risking him is much less risky IMO than giving my current scum reads a clear shot at sabotage - even if I suspect they might pass the L just to get this over with. But there is a reason my scum reads have concerted the attack on Scene, Greek and myself in their second charm offensive. Don't fall for it.

I mean this whole long term play is predicated on getting unlucky draw, but you are risking that your chancellor buries an L. Let us not forget the opportunity cost of going for the long term play. But I'm digressing as usual.

If not Scene for the clarity. Then it's got to be dedo. The only reason you don't want dedo is because you say I'm better option. But you want to keep me benched for the next gov, so dedo is in play. No reason to exclude him.

Focus please.

If not me then I prefer Scene for your chancellor, and dedo as second preference.

I had this exact thought about dedo, but if he's fascist, and he has a much higher chance than you to be fascist, won't everyone ask to remove you from future governments? This is why I don't want to risk shit happening with dedo.

Where stand on the votes please correct - this is not so easy to find.

Brasas vs someone else voting:

Brasas: Brasas (1239), Kusu (1280), Blotunga (1271)
Else: Adalia (1251), ZFR (1234)

Lift is holding, dedo is MIA, Scene also MIA - or I missed it

Ash has edged (1257 + 1274)
Greek has edged (1240 + 1259)

Not yourself voting:
Brasas (1282) - Scene, then Dedo
Ash (1274) - Brasas or Adalia
Kusu (1280) - Brasas < not sure this is fair assumption
Blotunga (1271) - Brasas < not sure this is fair assumption
Greek (1261) - Brasas then Scene < not sure this is fair assumption

I haven't decided yet so better remove this to not confuse others.

I think it's safer if I vote second to last and Lift votes last ;)

I'm sorry. I don't understand this. Can you explain how to read what you write?

Sorry, that "against" was a mistake, meant to write "for". But my point still stands. You got 2 posts each from RW and adalia (nothing from greek?), but you could have found similar posts (for me or against me): kusu nominating me for chancellor; dedo agreeing with me and being attacked by scene (post 117), whomever random.org would have chose. There is really nothing special about the names random.org picked (and again, you're concentrating on 2 of them, forgetting greek).

It's like the fortune teller whose predictions are uncannily accurate after the fact. Your lucky colour is green and number 4, and only moments later you meet a friend a friend you haven't seen in 4 years outside a green Starbucks coffeeshop. But of course he could also be 32 yeras old, wearing a blue suit, with a red shirt, driving a white car with license plates beginning with 2 and ending with 7. Any number colour/combination would have worked.

Also, if you pick B (i.e. me carefully crafting that shitpost ),
It just makes absolutely no sense. Why should I make those liberals sympathetic to me look bad? I'd be making myself look bad by association.

What I'm curious about is why your change of mind, now all of a sudden. You couldn't have missed my random.org reference when you went through the thread before (you couldn't have missed it because Brasas brought it up multiple times.) Why no mention of it before?
I'm wondering if you who is the number 1 scum suspect after RW's ragequit, is now trying to bring down 2 liberals with you.

Except there am in post 1162 which by the way is the final part of my introductory analysis-mega-post wondering if ZFR is Hitler. Totally not suspecting at all at the time, sure.


Fascist much? ;)

It doesn't mention ".org" but it mentions "digital dice":

Digital dice. What I had in my head up to then was repeated mentions of random, random. This made me go back in the thread to see wtf he was going on about and I reread post 479 where you tell Brasas you used random.org.

Adalia (if he's liberal) by association. I know you didn't mention him directly, but he's linked to us by Brasas as a "team".

Maybe in my original post, but dedo called me out by saying I had to open a separate page, then Brasas repeatedly mentioned how my random number generator was prophetic. Multiple times.
You've showed you pay attention to much smaller details in your analysis. I can't believe you just missed that.

I actually just went back to check. dedo did comment on it (post 489) and I explained myself (mentioning random.org again twice) post 522. Plus Brasas mentioned the fact several times later.

So here is the question: what trigger brought about your 180 degree sudden change of mind? It couldn't have been you suddenly discovering I used random.org. So what was it? Was it seeing that there was now a real chance Lift choses someone other than Brasas (myself or adalia)?

Indeed, I didn't mention him, and I've nothing against his nomination, despite what "teams" Brasas has dreamed up.

Did you miss the part where I mentioned theories about you being HItler or a fascist getting bussed to divert attention from actual Hitler? It's far from sudden.

I'm hoping he'll choose someone other than Brasas actually. I'd prefer to see someone new & untested in government. The thing is I don't know who the fascists/HItler are.

What I do know is that 4 of the people who ended up as government members participated in passing fascist policy and that people who lie are most possibly not liberals. Meanwhile, the 2 that didn't pass fascist policy were me and Brasas. He got vouched for by dedo who passed fascist policy himself and insists on defending scene. I'm unconfirmed because RW was given 2L. We need more liberals. Scene lied. Greek lied and is termlocked. You seem to be lying.

Granted, if you were nominated and passed fascist policy you'd be termlocked and we could just blacklist you from government from then on, but for me, to not support your chancellorship now looks like it would lead to more chances of a liberal taking the position.