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Kristian: Why do you think it us Wizardry over the SSI games?
At first I thought the first Wizardry was released in 1979. Wrong, as it was released in 1981.

The first "Gold Box" game (Pools of Radiance) was released in late 80's (1988 I think).

Anyway it seems clear that the GOG guy was wrong in his statement. It seems unlikely they'll release a 70's game (too primitive).

I admit It could be the old SSI RPG's. The bearded guy said that it took them 4 years to manage to acquire the game rights.
I suspect that means they've managed to buy the rights from the original owners.

In that case it could be possible that they'd publish the "Gold Box" games as the owner of the rights (the same way they did with the old Warhammer games).

Anyway I keep my statement: most CRPGs from before 1992 are too clunky for today's standards.
Eye of the Beholder is a gem from the past. But I don't see how many people today would find the time to waste drawing maps.
Yeah, probs Gold Box, which will be awesome but that's not the most important part of vid - what about
"Where do I get my DRM free Galaxy Beer?"
Shaddup and take my actual money!
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karnak1: At first I thought the first Wizardry was released in 1979. Wrong, as it was released in 1981.

The first "Gold Box" game (Pools of Radiance) was released in late 80's (1988 I think).

Anyway it seems clear that the GOG guy was wrong in his statement. It seems unlikely they'll release a 70's game (too primitive).

I admit It could be the old SSI RPG's. The bearded guy said that it took them 4 years to manage to acquire the game rights.
I suspect that means they've managed to buy the rights from the original owners.

In that case it could be possible that they'd publish the "Gold Box" games as the owner of the rights (the same way they did with the old Warhammer games).

Anyway I keep my statement: most CRPGs from before 1992 are too clunky for today's standards.
Eye of the Beholder is a gem from the past. But I don't see how many people today would find the time to waste drawing maps.
"Our understanding is that SSI became part of Ubisoft in 2001. Regarding the specifics of the D&D license, that does require WotC/Hasbro’s approval." Rights to Gold Box games. (that's the company that the old Gold Box devs formed who are making a new game Seven Dragon Saga).

Edit: with Ubisoft games here now it is possible but doesn't fit the "70s/80s" comment at all.
Post edited August 10, 2015 by Tarnicus
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karnak1: Anyway I keep my statement: most CRPGs from before 1992 are too clunky for today's standards.
Eye of the Beholder is a gem from the past. But I don't see how many people today would find the time to waste drawing maps.
Drawing maps, hell people nowadays are too lazy even to press the buttons themselves, hence the rise in watching videos of other people playing games.

It is hard to justify selling very old games individually, however a pack might be an option, for those of us who remember them (and at a reasonable price - noting the increase in price roughly every four releases!).
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karnak1: Anyway I keep my statement: most CRPGs from before 1992 are too clunky for today's standards.
Eye of the Beholder is a gem from the past. But I don't see how many people today would find the time to waste drawing maps.
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nightcraw1er.488: Drawing maps, hell people nowadays are too lazy even to press the buttons themselves, hence the rise in watching videos of other people playing games.

It is hard to justify selling very old games individually, however a pack might be an option, for those of us who remember them (and at a reasonable price - noting the increase in price roughly every four releases!).
I can't see anyone buying Pools of Radiance for 5$ (except for a few desperate excentrics).
The same would apply to individual early Wizardry games.

A more honest approach would be like they did to M&M games.
Wizardry is actually too modern to fit the description: The original game was released in 1981.
According to this: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Strategic_Simulations,_Inc._games

The first SSI game was released in 1979 and the first DOS one in 1981. If the GOG guy was approximating the general era from memory it could fit.

Given that GOG has applied for a trademark for a 1996 SSI game and recently self-published a couple of SSI games it would seem that getting SSI games here is less likely than it has been before.


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dtgreene: Wizardry is actually too modern to fit the description: The original game was released in 1981.
Not if the GOG guy was:

A) Going from memory and/or
B) Was describing the general era in a approximate manner.
Post edited August 10, 2015 by Kristian
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vicklemos: GOG knows ya can't go all Armikrog withouth the Neverhood... so... :P
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zeffyr: Cat says it right! :>
:P
But you can go System Shock II without System Shock I... rightey?
Bwa ha ha!
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nightcraw1er.488: Drawing maps, hell people nowadays are too lazy even to press the buttons themselves, hence the rise in watching videos of other people playing games.

It is hard to justify selling very old games individually, however a pack might be an option, for those of us who remember them (and at a reasonable price - noting the increase in price roughly every four releases!).
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karnak1: I can't see anyone buying Pools of Radiance for 5$ (except for a few desperate excentrics).
The same would apply to individual early Wizardry games.

A more honest approach would be like they did to M&M games.
Yep, exactly. Make a pack of them, maybe the Gold Box Pack. Aparently there is an emulator UAShell out there which can run them anyways, so if they did come in at $5 each then I wouldn't be buying them at least until a sale.
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Tarnicus: Exactly what I was going to say, although Wizardy 1-5 are 80s. Unless they are referring to which was released in 1977 as "DND". Taking a look at [url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_role-playing_video_games:_1975_to_1985]this list of CRPGs from '75-85, the only series that fits in the 70s/80s category is Dunjonquest. The way he was talking about it, one would think it was going to be something a bit more popular such as Wizardry or the Goldbox series.

Edit: Detailed info on Dunjonquest/Temple of Apshai

The current copyright holders are still in business. I wrote to them :)
I automatically ignored the 70s part, because I didn't believe that there ever was a 70s RPG series. Seems like I was mistaken, though I still stubbornly believe it's Wizardry rather than the Goldbox series because it's older.
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Tarnicus: "Our understanding is that SSI became part of Ubisoft in 2001. Regarding the specifics of the D&D license, that does require WotC/Hasbro’s approval." Rights to Gold Box games. (that's the company that the old Gold Box devs formed who are making a new game Seven Dragon Saga).

Edit: with Ubisoft games here now it is possible but doesn't fit the "70s/80s" comment at all.
I suspect the difficult part was never SSI or Ubisoft - we already have SSI and Ubisoft games here - but the D&D license owned by a third party.

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karnak1: I can't see anyone buying Pools of Radiance for 5$ (except for a few desperate excentrics).
The same would apply to individual early Wizardry games.

A more honest approach would be like they did to M&M games.
IF they'd ever manage to get the Gold Box games here, I'd expect GOG to offer them in bundles based on series, e.g. Pool of Radiance bundle, Dragonlance bundle, Savage Frontier bundle, Buck Rogers bundle (although that might pose additional problems with the Buck Rogers IP). Unlimited Adventures would be worth a single entry though! :P (I'd buy that for $5, maybe also for $10. And I might even be tempted to give away a copy or two, just to celebrate the occasion.)
Post edited August 10, 2015 by Leroux
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tfishell: Or we could be wrong and GOG is just hyping up their new forum with even fewer features; it's like something you'd see out of the 70s/80s - everyone has to communicate with binary on the new forum.
Moar hype.
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tfishell: Or we could be wrong and GOG is just hyping up their new forum with even fewer features; it's like something you'd see out of the 70s/80s - everyone has to communicate with binary on the new forum.
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Gydion: Moar hype.
Classic Judas.

And bundles most def if the games are old enough, maybe Pool of Radiance Forgotten Realms Vol. 1 & 2 collections, etc.

Hey, maybe it's more than just "Gold Box"; maybe it's old-school D&D games like PLATO and PDP-10 titles. ;) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Dungeons_%26_Dragons_video_games#Single_player That would count the '70s part.
And now for a something completely different (and unrelated): Any news on the Cinemaware debacle?
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Gydion: Moar hype.
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tfishell: Classic Judas.

And bundles most def if the games are old enough, maybe Pool of Radiance Forgotten Realms Vol. 1 & 2 collections, etc.

Hey, maybe it's more than just "Gold Box"; maybe it's old-school D&D games like PLATO and PDP-10 titles. ;) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Dungeons_%26_Dragons_video_games#Single_player That would count the '70s part.
But I don't think that would be considered a "BIG" release. Even though I know they ain't from the 80's (90's) The Elder Scroll Series would seem to me to be a very big event but then again the older TES games are already legally free.. :\