Summary of the past year or so: So as you guys know I’m a big fan of Humongous Entertainment’s games of yesteryear, namely the point and click adventures of Putt-Putt, Freddi Fish, Pajama Sam, and Spy Fox. At first, I didn’t expect GOG to bring them here because of the “kid” focus, and was HIGHLY disappointed by this. However, upon learning that Nimbus Games had a license from Atari to re-release these games, and bringing this to GOG’s attention (as well as mentioning the popularity of these games via YouTube views, wishlist count, “Reddit respect”, etc.), I received some encouraging responses. Thus, I’m creating this thread “preemptively” to hopefully garner support; Nimbus are working on PC re-releases for Win7/8, and I really think GOG should strongly consider selling these + the SCUMM (?some DOS?) originals + the soundtracks here.
Why I believe these games belong here and would do well:
- These games are not like other “kiddie” titles like Jumpstart or Zoombinies (although those are good games too). These have aged quite well as early point and click adventures, and have sort of a “timeless” quality to them. Within them are interesting stories, charming settings, funny characters, and logical puzzles, from a time when hand-drawn animation was the norm.
- They can be enjoyed by both people who remember these games, and kids of today. I’d suggest that it’s not just a “mindless nostalgia” rush, though; as mentioned above, these games still have play value.
- Humongous Entertainment’s point and click adventures could act as “gateway” (in a good way) to other, more adult-oriented (or more complex) point and click adventures, like Gabriel Knight, Quest for Glory, Tex Murphy, Simon the Sorcerer etc. Of course, you could argue that Pajama Sam’s animation is not Tex’s live video, but I think this is still a valid point.
- GOG already has some games for kids or those that were arguably initially designed for kids (Manhole, Torin’s Passage, Rayman, Little Big Adventure, Superfrog, etc.) Again, you could argue against some of these, but the point is that I believe GOG should not feel like it has to discriminate against children simply to stay “cool” in the eyes of its audience.
- Post-Lucasarts Ron Gilbert co-founded Humongous Entertainment. ☺
- Freddi Fish 1 won "Best Children's Game 1994" and I believe Pajama Sam won a similar award (although I can't seem to find the box art for that).
- These games are still popular (see below):
(I’ll admit this probably isn’t the best data, but I think it’s legitimate when deciding how well a game would sell.)
Youtube: The first seven videos of Pajama Sam contain almost 450,000 views. Scrolling down, dshban’s
“Let’s Play Pajama Sam Part 1” has almost 180,000 views. Similarly, the first five videos of Spy Fox has
over 200,000 views. A parody video by Peanut Butter Gamer called “Putt-Putt does Some Things” has
over 500,000 views, and down a few videos, a walkthrough of Putt-Putt Joins the Circus has 470, 000
views. These huge numbers are similar for Freddi Fish, too.
(As far as I know, getting into the hundreds is not an easy task. T)
The rough total last time I checked was about 1100 votes. That’s not much when compared to others, but we have gotten other games on here for less. (Moonbase Commander has about 34 votes, whereas Spy Fox has 93.)
(If you have any other data backing up the idea that these games are still popular and well liked, please consider posting it.)
Comments from fans:
"Putt Putt, Pajama Sam, Freddie Fish, Spy Fox AND Backyard games WERE THE SHIT! Childhood restored." - UserDawst, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0c0gqPBx8BE
"OH MY GOD SO MANY MEMORIES" - MrChainsawFish, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ofn_sB_Kf1Y
"I love my parents so much for buying me these games when I was a kid" - speaker3600, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z6GsXK-xuGs
"I think that I was among the luckiest kids to get playing this amazing game....it's been 10 years now. It's wonderful to feel the memories again...." - KralZahin731, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xxbX80f4Zqg
"That was my childhood ! I'm so happy I found this :o" - Molly Mayer, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-o6-j5Bkcwg
"God damn man, your video's bring back so many memories D; Spy fox, Freddie Fish, Putt-Putt, Pajama Sam all beat Call of Duty by FAAAAAAR! :D" - kid12349, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4g-dt99gdOE
"Dude fucking Putt Putt, Freddy Fish, Pajama Sam, and Spy Fox. Loved old Humongous games." - kwloy, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PA3RipD7N1s
And many more like this. :D
Prices: Atari and a site called Games 2 Download are selling Humongous Games for 10 bucks a pop. While I do like these games, I think Freddi Fish 2 for 10 bucks is a bit overpriced. I respectfully let Nimbus know about this; we’ll see if I get a response. I believe the best option would be a 5.99 price for most of the post-1995 games, and 5.99 bundles for earlier games (like Freddi Fish 1 + 2 together, and Putt-Putt 1 + 2 together, for 5.99). Another option might be 3 games for 10 bucks, but I think 5.99 works best.
Updated versions vs. SCUMM originals: I have not played the Nimbus-updated games, but I suggested to them that if they have the right, they let GOG release the SCUMM originals alongside the new versions. The rationale behind this was similar to the VGA, SVGA, EGA differences – people may have different preferences, and may prefer to be able to tweak their gameplay via SCUMMVM (assuming it has settings like DOSBox does).
Soundtracks: I really really hope that GOG is able to release the soundtracks alongside the Humongous games. It seems that Humongous put all the music on the game discs under .HE4 files, and somebody developed a tool to extract them: http://www.lucasforums.com/showthread.php?t=191740, uploaded here: http://www.mediafire.com/?iezh2vadyuu6evo
All that is spit out is 88kbps WAV files, basically ranging between :30 – 1:30 in length, but for those of us that grew up with this music, it is a serious happy nostalgia rush. ☺ (Plus, 40 to 50 files are usually spit out, which can make out to be 20 – 40 minutes worth of music)
Putt-Putt Saves the Zoo soundtrack: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n3OO8yMBeIc&list=PLDD8F359CC64C47BE
Pajama Sam 1 soundtrack: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7t6BeRzlHPY&list=PLE9B91A1E309E0CDE
Freddi Fish 1 soundtrack: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tPsoMseeZ-g&list=PLCF070B37DB52BC9C
Spy Fox in "Dry Cereal" soundtrack: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K7M3yRxO3TE&list=PL61B742F3A585CF9A
Alright, I hope I haven’t bothered anybody by making this. I’ll edit it later, but I have exercise and schoolwork to do. :P
I would appreciate any helping contributions to this thread; if you’re genuinely interested in the games, please vote, but don’t necessarily feel obligated unless you think you could purchase the game from GOG.