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I'm creating this out of a suggestion by DCT. I feel like compiling this information/my opinion/other people’s thoughts into one place would work better than occasionally asking, “Hay GOG, where’s le Pajama Sam?!” It will be periodically updated, but I will try to avoid bumping for no reason as I know that ticks people off, understandably.

Summary of the past year or so: So as you guys know I’m a big fan of Humongous Entertainment’s games of yesteryear, namely the point and click adventures of Putt-Putt, Freddi Fish, Pajama Sam, and Spy Fox. At first, I didn’t expect GOG to bring them here because of the “kid” focus, and was HIGHLY disappointed by this. However, upon learning that Nimbus Games had a license from Atari to re-release these games, and bringing this to GOG’s attention (as well as mentioning the popularity of these games via YouTube views, wishlist count, “Reddit respect”, etc.), I received some encouraging responses. Thus, I’m creating this thread “preemptively” to hopefully garner support; Nimbus are working on PC re-releases for Win7/8, and I really think GOG should strongly consider selling these + the SCUMM (?some DOS?) originals + the soundtracks here.

Why I believe these games belong here and would do well:

- These games are not like other “kiddie” titles like Jumpstart or Zoombinies (although those are good games too). These have aged quite well as early point and click adventures, and have sort of a “timeless” quality to them. Within them are interesting stories, charming settings, funny characters, and logical puzzles, from a time when hand-drawn animation was the norm.
- They can be enjoyed by both people who remember these games, and kids of today. I’d suggest that it’s not just a “mindless nostalgia” rush, though; as mentioned above, these games still have play value.
- Humongous Entertainment’s point and click adventures could act as “gateway” (in a good way) to other, more adult-oriented (or more complex) point and click adventures, like Gabriel Knight, Quest for Glory, Tex Murphy, Simon the Sorcerer etc. Of course, you could argue that Pajama Sam’s animation is not Tex’s live video, but I think this is still a valid point.
- GOG already has some games for kids or those that were arguably initially designed for kids (Manhole, Torin’s Passage, Rayman, Little Big Adventure, Superfrog, etc.) Again, you could argue against some of these, but the point is that I believe GOG should not feel like it has to discriminate against children simply to stay “cool” in the eyes of its audience.
- Post-Lucasarts Ron Gilbert co-founded Humongous Entertainment. ☺
- Freddi Fish 1 won "Best Children's Game 1994" and I believe Pajama Sam won a similar award (although I can't seem to find the box art for that).
- These games are still popular (see below):

Popularity:

(I’ll admit this probably isn’t the best data, but I think it’s legitimate when deciding how well a game would sell.)

Youtube: The first seven videos of Pajama Sam contain almost 450,000 views. Scrolling down, dshban’s
“Let’s Play Pajama Sam Part 1” has almost 180,000 views. Similarly, the first five videos of Spy Fox has
over 200,000 views. A parody video by Peanut Butter Gamer called “Putt-Putt does Some Things” has
over 500,000 views, and down a few videos, a walkthrough of Putt-Putt Joins the Circus has 470, 000
views. These huge numbers are similar for Freddi Fish, too.

Pajama Sam
Putt-Putt
Spy Fox
Freddi Fish

Reddit: http://www.reddit.com/search?q=humongous+entertainment
http://www.reddit.com/search?q=pajama+sam&restrict_sr=off&sort=relevance&t=all
(As far as I know, getting into the hundreds is not an easy task. T)

Wishlist: http://www.gog.com/wishlist/games#search=freddi
http://www.gog.com/wishlist/games#search=spy f
http://www.gog.com/wishlist/games#search=pajam
http://www.gog.com/wishlist/games#search=putt-
The rough total last time I checked was about 1100 votes. That’s not much when compared to others, but we have gotten other games on here for less. (Moonbase Commander has about 34 votes, whereas Spy Fox has 93.)

(If you have any other data backing up the idea that these games are still popular and well liked, please consider posting it.)

Comments from fans:

"Putt Putt, Pajama Sam, Freddie Fish, Spy Fox AND Backyard games WERE THE SHIT! Childhood restored." - UserDawst, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0c0gqPBx8BE

"OH MY GOD SO MANY MEMORIES" - MrChainsawFish, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ofn_sB_Kf1Y

"I love my parents so much for buying me these games when I was a kid" - speaker3600, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z6GsXK-xuGs

"I think that I was among the luckiest kids to get playing this amazing game....it's been 10 years now. It's wonderful to feel the memories again...." - KralZahin731, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xxbX80f4Zqg

"That was my childhood ! I'm so happy I found this :o" - Molly Mayer, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-o6-j5Bkcwg

"God damn man, your video's bring back so many memories D; Spy fox, Freddie Fish, Putt-Putt, Pajama Sam all beat Call of Duty by FAAAAAAR! :D" - kid12349, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4g-dt99gdOE

"Dude fucking Putt Putt, Freddy Fish, Pajama Sam, and Spy Fox. Loved old Humongous games." - kwloy, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PA3RipD7N1s

And many more like this. :D

Cautions/Concerns:

Prices: Atari and a site called Games 2 Download are selling Humongous Games for 10 bucks a pop. While I do like these games, I think Freddi Fish 2 for 10 bucks is a bit overpriced. I respectfully let Nimbus know about this; we’ll see if I get a response. I believe the best option would be a 5.99 price for most of the post-1995 games, and 5.99 bundles for earlier games (like Freddi Fish 1 + 2 together, and Putt-Putt 1 + 2 together, for 5.99). Another option might be 3 games for 10 bucks, but I think 5.99 works best.

Updated versions vs. SCUMM originals: I have not played the Nimbus-updated games, but I suggested to them that if they have the right, they let GOG release the SCUMM originals alongside the new versions. The rationale behind this was similar to the VGA, SVGA, EGA differences – people may have different preferences, and may prefer to be able to tweak their gameplay via SCUMMVM (assuming it has settings like DOSBox does).

Soundtracks: I really really hope that GOG is able to release the soundtracks alongside the Humongous games. It seems that Humongous put all the music on the game discs under .HE4 files, and somebody developed a tool to extract them: http://www.lucasforums.com/showthread.php?t=191740, uploaded here: http://www.mediafire.com/?iezh2vadyuu6evo
All that is spit out is 88kbps WAV files, basically ranging between :30 – 1:30 in length, but for those of us that grew up with this music, it is a serious happy nostalgia rush. ☺ (Plus, 40 to 50 files are usually spit out, which can make out to be 20 – 40 minutes worth of music)

http://www.youtube.com/user/HumongousSoundtracks/videos?view=1&flow=grid

Putt-Putt Saves the Zoo soundtrack: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n3OO8yMBeIc&list=PLDD8F359CC64C47BE
Pajama Sam 1 soundtrack: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7t6BeRzlHPY&list=PLE9B91A1E309E0CDE
Freddi Fish 1 soundtrack: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tPsoMseeZ-g&list=PLCF070B37DB52BC9C
Spy Fox in "Dry Cereal" soundtrack: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K7M3yRxO3TE&list=PL61B742F3A585CF9A

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Alright, I hope I haven’t bothered anybody by making this. I’ll edit it later, but I have exercise and schoolwork to do. :P

I would appreciate any helping contributions to this thread; if you’re genuinely interested in the games, please vote, but don’t necessarily feel obligated unless you think you could purchase the game from GOG.
Post edited February 05, 2013 by tfishell
Great efforts, man!

I vaguely remember Putt-Putt (my friend's brother played that game), but I didn't play the other Humongous titles.

You have my vote, my support, and my axe!

(I really like the idea of having threads dedicated to certain developers or companies, where we can keep track of the various games, licenses, news, etc. in each OP.)
Post edited February 03, 2013 by mondo84
agreed - these are all games worth of preservation as much as doom and SS 2. I would not mind having a couple of them on my gOG shelf.
Direct links to vote for the games on the wishlist:

Freddi Fish

Freddi Fish And The Case Of The Missing Kelp Seeds
Freddi Fish 2: The Case Of The Haunted Schoolhouse
Freddi Fish 3: The Case Of The Stolen Conch Shell
Freddi Fish 4: The Case Of The Hogfish Rustlers Of Briny Gulch
Freddi Fish 5: The Case Of The Creature Of Coral Cave
Freddi Fish And Luther's Maze Madness
Freddi Fish And Luther's Water Worries
Freddi Fish: ABC Under The Sea
Freddi Fish's Fun House
Freddi Fish's One-Stop Fun Shop

Pajama Sam

Pajama Sam: No Need To Hide When It's Dark Outside
Pajama Sam 2: Thunder and Lightning Aren't So Frightening
Pajama Sam 3: You Are What You Eat From Your Head To Your Feet
Pajama Sam 4: Life is Rough When You Lose Your Stuff!
Pajama Sam's Games To Play On Any Day
Pajama Sam's Lost And Found
Pajama Sam's One-Stop Fun Shop
Pajama Sam's Sock Works

Putt-Putt

Putt-Putt Joins The Parade
Putt-Putt Goes To The Moon
Putt-Putt: Pep's Birthday Surprise
Putt-Putt Saves The Zoo
Putt-Putt Travels Through Time
Putt-Putt Enters The Race
Putt-Putt Joins The Circus
Putt-Putt And Pep's Dog On A Stick
Putt-Putt And Pep's Balloon-O-Rama
Putt-Putt And Fatty Bear's Activity Pack
Putt-Putt's Fun Pack
Putt-Putt's One-Stop Fun Shop
Putt-Putt's Fun House

Spy Fox

Spy Fox In "Dry Cereal"
Spy Fox 2: "Some Assembly Required"
Spy Fox 3: "Operation Ozone"
Spy Fox In "Cheese Chase"
Spy Fox In "Hold The Mustard"

Buzzy The Knowledge Bug - Junior Field Trips

Let's Explore The Farm
Let's Explore The Jungle
Let's Explore The Airport

Fatty Bear

Fatty Bear's Birthday Surprise
Fatty Bear's Fun Pack
Putt-Putt And Fatty Bear's Activity Pack

Backyard Sports

Backyard Baseball
Backyard Basketball
Backyard Basketball 2007
Backyard Football
Backyard Football 2002
Backyard Football 2003
Backyard Football 2004
Backyard Football 2005
Backyard Football 2006
Backyard Football 2007
Backyard Football '08
Backyard Football '09
Backyard Football '10
Backyard Hockey
Backyard Skateboarding
Backyard Soccer a.k.a. Junior Sports Football
Backyard Soccer: MLS Edition
Backyard Sports: Rookie Rush

Big Thinkers

Big Thinkers: Kindergarten
Big Thinkers: First Grade

Blue's Clues

Blue's Clues: Blue's 123 Time Activities
Blue's Clues: Blue's ABC Time Activities
Blue's Clues: Blue's Art Time Activities
Blue's Clues: Blue's Birthday Adventure
Blue's Clues: Blue's Treasure Hunt
Blue's Clues: Kindergarten
Blue's Clues: Preschool
Post edited March 06, 2014 by Barry_Woodward
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tfishell: ...
Well, we already have Total Annihilation, so why not? Did the whole GT Interactive buyout mean they landed in different hands than the Cavedog stuff (Cavedog guys WERE actually HE guys, check the credits, their paychecks were signed by HE).

They're SCUUM games so they'd be a cinch to get on GOG (comparatively). I think some of the later "Backyard" sports titles may have had clever hacks in the engines to support their math, but Spy Fox and the rest should be plain old SCUUM.
Got my support, I mean it's not like we already don't have "kid" oriented titles here

King's Quest VII: The Princeless Bride
Torin's Passage
Manhole

Yeah a argument could be made that those, well Torin's Passage and KQ 7 were more Family oriented fair then "kid" oriented but still, plus it's my hope that if Putt-putt and such get on here maybe it can open the door for some of the old Sierra Discovery games like the Island and Castle of Dr. Brain and Eco Quest.
I really truly appreciate the support, guys. :)
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Barry_Woodward: ...
And of course, thanks for the specific links, Barry. ;) After writing all the above yesterday, I really didn't feel like linking to each game. :P
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tfishell: ...
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orcishgamer: Well, we already have Total Annihilation, so why not? Did the whole GT Interactive buyout mean they landed in different hands than the Cavedog stuff (Cavedog guys WERE actually HE guys, check the credits, their paychecks were signed by HE).

They're SCUUM games so they'd be a cinch to get on GOG (comparatively). I think some of the later "Backyard" sports titles may have had clever hacks in the engines to support their math, but Spy Fox and the rest should be plain old SCUUM.
I knew Cavedog was, like a "subdivision" of GOG that made more teen-and-adult-oriented titles, but I'm not sure who owns what exactly, other than Atari (is that what GT is now? It's confusing for me to follow and keep track of who is what: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GT_Interactive_Software#1999_.E2.80.93_Infogrames_buys_GT_Interactive) bought Humongous ~10 years back. Nimbus Games is licensing Humongous content from Atari, so that's who I have been talking to (thankfully they're a small company, so they actually write back responses to emails).

Nimbus is creating non-SCUMM (or SCUUM?) versions of the games, but I thought it might be best to have both the SCUMM originals and Nimbus' stuff here (assuming GOG goes "through" Nimbus and not Atari directly, depending on what Atari's financial woes are doing to them).
Post edited February 04, 2013 by tfishell
You have my support as well. I would definitely buy the Pajama Sam games.
Have my support also and would buy any series/franchise from/by them.

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Post edited February 04, 2013 by EverettLamb
So like if we are supporting anything, we get a bill? =)

I just youtubed pajama sam.. didn't look too bad.
Humongous Entertainment Games are brilliant! Remember when I had a demo of Spy Fox in a cereal's box...Wish to see them here on GOG some day as well.
I knew it was available on Atari's site and http://www.games2download.com. But as this site is more popular than many of those others, and has many good old games ;), as these are good old games I believe they should have a spot here.
PLUS, those sites don't offer the nostalgastic soundtracks. :) SOUNDTRACKS.

Unfortunately, it seems that 9.99 price tag isn't going away. Hopefully GOG could negotiate for a 5.99 price tag. On the plus side, GameHouse says, "9.99 or 6.99 for members", so that may provide a bit of hope.

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Antimateria: So like if we are supporting anything, we get a bill? =)

I just youtubed pajama sam.. didn't look too bad.
You mean you want money for supporting them? ;) I can pay you in Internets.

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EverettLamb: Have my support also and would buy any series/franchise from/by them.

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Thanks bud. :)
Post edited February 04, 2013 by tfishell
Alright, so of course I want to be careful bumping, but I also want to give people a chance that may not have seen this thread earlier to speak up, if they think they would buy Humongous games. :)

I'm thinking I may attempt to enlist the help of r/gaming or r/nostalgia (although we'll see how that goes. :P)

In the meantime, here's some of the nostalgic music:

http://www.youtube.com/user/HumongousSoundtracks/videos?view=1&flow=grid

Putt-Putt Saves the Zoo soundtrack: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n3OO8yMBeIc&list=PLDD8F359CC64C47BE
Pajama Sam 1 soundtrack: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7t6BeRzlHPY&list=PLE9B91A1E309E0CDE
Freddi Fish 1 soundtrack: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tPsoMseeZ-g&list=PLCF070B37DB52BC9C
Spy Fox in "Dry Cereal" soundtrack: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K7M3yRxO3TE&list=PL61B742F3A585CF9A
A very nice thread, tfishell and I totally support your effort. I played lots of Humongous games (mostly Pajama Sam and Putt-Putt series) back in the day and enjoyed them a lot. I even contributed Pajama Sam 3's game entry to Mobygames! I hope one day GOG would release those wonderful Humongous games...