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Chacranajxy: Why? Is the average GOG shopper's intelligence too low to figure out what does and doesn't interest them? Probably not. Why would more options be a bad thing?
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P1na: Because shuffling through shovelware is tiring. I like the idea that every game that shows up here is worth looking into, instead of having to wade through tons of crap game every day and hours of research in order to find the few good ones. GOG does that for me, these days if an indie game doesn't make it to GOG I don't even bother looking into it. Although, as Gilozard said, some very good games do get left out.
I mean, I agree in theory. But we're absolutely not in a position where every game here is worth looking into. Look at this week's releases -- almost none of them seem like they're worth a second thought. Wouldn't it be better if you could more reliably hear about a game that's supposed to be good on a gaming site or a forum or something, and actually be able to expect that you can buy it here?
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Gilozard: Said it before and I'll say it again:

We WANT GOG to curate games. That means some people's favorite game gets turned down. But it also means GOG doesn't get buried under a ton of shovelware.
Not me. I'd love to be able to buy some of the games on Chacranajxy's list DRM-free on GOG, and I'd take no issue with the ones don't interest me being offered - some people might enjoy them, and I wouldn't want to keep them from it.

Looking at the reviews on Steam for the first few:

Furi - Positive (156) Negative (12)
Inside - Positive (1,127) Negative (57)
Megadimension Neptunia VII - Positive (315) Negative (4)

But I guess since they're "ugly, anime-looking crap" and ""japanese child pornography indie shovelware" we should keep them off GOG... Gods forbid we decide for ourselves what is and isn't worth buying here.

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Chacranajxy: Wouldn't it be better if you could more reliably hear about a game that's supposed to be good on a gaming site or a forum or something, and actually be able to expect that you can buy it here?
YES! :)
Post edited July 09, 2016 by SeduceMePlz
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Chacranajxy: I mean, I agree in theory. But we're absolutely not in a position where every game here is worth looking into. Look at this week's releases -- almost none of them seem like they're worth a second thought. Wouldn't it be better if you could more reliably hear about a game that's supposed to be good on a gaming site or a forum or something, and actually be able to expect that you can buy it here?
Not really, no. I like having them highlighted on GOG homepage. That said, I agree with a general drop on release quality (despite also bringing us wonderful games such as Aquaria); it's just that I don't agree with the solution being dropping the quality even further. Steam is horrible in that regard, looking at the new releases is basically pointless.
Another benefit is that by curating the games, GOG can check each one individually and offer support for them instead of leaving it open for devs to do whatever they want, such as steam or the rather bad packaging at humble bundle DRM free downloads.
I personally very much like the curated approach store, and also the DRM free approach. Which makes GOG great for me. I can see the argument of somebody wanting a DRM free store without curation, but isn't that Desura? Why must all stores carry all games?
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P1na: Steam is horrible in that regard, looking at the new releases is basically pointless.
Steam sucks, but one of the few things I actually like about it is that if I'm interested in a game, Steam almost always has it. GOG doesn't even come close in that regard (partly because of publishers who won't release their games DRM-free, but partly because of overly restrictive curation).

We have dozens if not hundreds of sources for information about games (better sources than a GOG blurb); a front page full of new releases is not a problem.
Post edited July 09, 2016 by SeduceMePlz
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Post edited July 09, 2016 by tfishell
Can one get Umineko somewhere else other than Steam but in its glorious West release? It's such a shame that Umineko has to end up there...

Along with of course the HDN series, how dare we get the rest of it rather than be stranded with just the first part.
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PookaMustard: Can one get Umineko somewhere else other than Steam but in its glorious West release? It's such a shame that Umineko has to end up there...

Along with of course the HDN series, how dare we get the rest of it rather than be stranded with just the first part.
You can get the games from MangaGamer, but I'm not sure what type of DRM they use:
http://www.mangagamer.com/detail.php?goods_type=1&product_code=177
Post edited July 09, 2016 by SCPM
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PookaMustard: Can one get Umineko somewhere else other than Steam but in its glorious West release? It's such a shame that Umineko has to end up there...

Along with of course the HDN series, how dare we get the rest of it rather than be stranded with just the first part.
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SCPM: You can get the games from MangaGamer, but I'm not sure what type of DRM they use:
http://www.mangagamer.com/detail.php?goods_type=1&product_code=177
They've actually dropped DRM from their games altogether (except for a couple of their really old releases that they couldn't take it out of. But yeah, there's definitely an existing DRM-free option for Umineko.
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SCPM: You can get the games from MangaGamer, but I'm not sure what type of DRM they use:
http://www.mangagamer.com/detail.php?goods_type=1&product_code=177
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Chacranajxy: They've actually dropped DRM from their games altogether (except for a couple of their really old releases that they couldn't take it out of. But yeah, there's definitely an existing DRM-free option for Umineko.
Ah, that's good news, at least there's now a DRM-free option for Umineko and Higurashi.

I was browsing their all ages section and wondering why I couldn't find Aselia the Eternal, then I remembered it's a JAST-USA release. As near as I can tell, all the games from their store are DRM-free too?
https://www.jastusa.com/aselia-the-eternal.html
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Chacranajxy: They've actually dropped DRM from their games altogether (except for a couple of their really old releases that they couldn't take it out of. But yeah, there's definitely an existing DRM-free option for Umineko.
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SCPM: Ah, that's good news, at least there's now a DRM-free option for Umineko and Higurashi.

I was browsing their all ages section and wondering why I couldn't find Aselia the Eternal, then I remembered it's a JAST-USA release. As near as I can tell, all the games from their store are DRM-free too?
https://www.jastusa.com/aselia-the-eternal.html
Yeah. At some point, the VN publishers just gave up and started doing everything DRM-free. Well, except for Sekai project, which is a bit more hit and miss. Some of their games are sold DRM-free on their Denpasoft store, but the rest are Steam-only.
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SCPM: You can get the games from MangaGamer, but I'm not sure what type of DRM they use:
http://www.mangagamer.com/detail.php?goods_type=1&product_code=177
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Chacranajxy: They've actually dropped DRM from their games altogether (except for a couple of their really old releases that they couldn't take it out of. But yeah, there's definitely an existing DRM-free option for Umineko.
That's great. The official witch hunt story without any DRM shrills.
I still don't know the real culprit though...
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SeduceMePlz: Steam sucks, but one of the few things I actually like about it is that if I'm interested in a game, Steam almost always has it. GOG doesn't even come close in that regard (partly because of publishers who won't release their games DRM-free, but partly because of overly restrictive curation).

We have dozens if not hundreds of sources for information about games (better sources than a GOG blurb); a front page full of new releases is not a problem.
Again: what's wrong with different storefronts having different policies? I like this one, you like steam's. Must they all be the same? A front page full of new releases may not be a problem for you, but it is for me. Is someone's subjective opinion more correct than someone else's?
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Chacranajxy: ...Here are a bunch of PC games that look good that GOG won't get for one reason or another. Prove me wrong...I have no idea why none of it shows up here.
GOG has to decide if it is financially worthwhile for them. Just look at the higher number of customers of Valve and take into account fixed costs for each release and you'll see that GOG must have a higher threshold unless they would be incredibly productive. Also they have their curated approach. So probably not all of these games are high quality. Finally, it could be the developers themselves who maybe think that being on Steam is sufficient.

On the other hand I also suspect that GOG could release a bit more Indies still. While they might not sell that high numbers on GOG, as long as they contribute something positive... they will at least make the shop here more complete.

Furi looks okay and is not my kind of game, Inside looks quite well actually and is not my kind of game, Megadimension looks good but is definitely not my kind of game, Trizeal looks generic and is not my kind of game (NMKOG), Umineko could be good but the graphics jump a bit too much into your eye, Under Night in Birth looks strange and is NMKOG, Muv-Luv might be NMKOG but looks better than Umineko from the drawing style, Assault Suit Leynos looks okay but is NMKOG, I am Setsuna actually looks good and might be my kind of game, not sure if I like the drawing style of Phantom Brave, the characters look too pixelaed; Trouble Witches Origin - Episode1 looks definitely like NMKOG.

So, while they all indeed look good, almost all of them I would not want to play, except for I am Setsuna, which I would like to play but not for that price (40€) but more for 10€. If GOG could bring this game here within a year for a reasonable price I would probably buy it. Problem there is the publisher who doesn't like GOG as you probably know.

So after looking at all the games I definitely think GOG is a bit too lazy and should bring more of them here if possible.

Also, the custom tags for the games on Steam are really good. That is something where GOG definitely falls short. And it's not as if we hadn't proposed this to GOG already years ago. But sometimes GOG seems to slow ...

https://www.gog.com/wishlist/games/i_am_setsuna
https://www.gog.com/wishlist/site/reviewer_added_search_tags
Post edited July 09, 2016 by Trilarion
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P1na: it's just that I don't agree with the solution being dropping the quality even further.
I don't want to open the floodgates for every "look guys it's my first RPG maker game" or mobile port either, but almost all of the games OP posted would actually raise the bar in terms of quality by what has been released lately.
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WBGhiro: I don't want to open the floodgates for every "look guys it's my first RPG maker game" or mobile port either, but almost all of the games OP posted would actually raise the bar in terms of quality by what has been released lately.
Can't argue with that, I would actually buy several from that list. But this is this and that is that, because if that was this, this would be that and that (or this) is all kinds of confusing.