Lodium: wow, you are pretty sick if you mean your frredom shoud alow the abuse of small children that cant defend themself just for the sake of freedom.
You are forgetting something wery important, your freedom stops where other peoples freedom begin.
you hit just a new low.
Offcourse the isp have buisness monitoring that type of traffic so that sick perverts doesnt get the pleasure of looking at child porn.
Because such activity intrudes on a childs freedom.
Lukaszmik: How much of an idiot are you to pull "think of teh childrenz" in such a discussion?
There are legal ways of combating child pornography. Blanket ISP monitoring is not one of them, and never should be.
Though I guess there's not much point trying to actually explain things to you if you can't even comprehend the rather simple content of my previous posts.
Apologies to all the rest of you for derailing. I thought Lodium was simply ignorant, but willing to learn. Clearly not so.
You know, its pretty ironic
a few posts ago you yourself pulled the : constituent rights card
so why is my way of doing it any worse than yours?
The argument here is not about combating child porn
otherwise i woudnt have said that the isp will forward those kind of issues to the police but i guess you missed my point once again.
Its about alowing it to take place in the first place.
Freedom does not mean one is free to do as one please.
That is why we have laws and regulations the moment your fredom is intruding on others people freedom
Il give you a tip.
Before you engage in a debate learn to actually back up your arguments.
You cant even answer a simple question
on how a isp going to measure how much bandwith you have used if the isp cant track you.
My argument has been that there are great ways of using datamining and there are bad ways of doing datamining
you have denied this from the very beginning and your defence for such a claim have been the freedom card.
I have not said its ok to sell the informatiomn to a third party, after all i did say facebok was a bad way of doing it.
But it seams your claim is that people cant protect their property, interest or whatever in the name of freedom.
well, now how the fuck is a store owner going to watch over his store with such a dubious argument then?
He cant because some idiot claims it is the police,s job and the store owner shoud just wait for the police to show up by magic.
It doesnt work that way.
The store owner will off course monitor the store and report any person that does anything ilegal in his store to the police, this has always been the case.
If he doesnt, well then he doesnt protect his property, interest or whatever and in some cases he can even go in jail
for being a passive bystander.
What applies to me must of necessity also apply to you. It is at the core of our understanding of the term ‘criminal’ – someone who by their actions has, by deception or other means, wrongfully deprived me of something which belonged to me , which is rightfully mine or for which I had had a duty of care to protect (this, of course also includes the ‘worst’ crime of all, murder - depriving another of their life). It is at the core of the word ‘cruelty’ – wilfully causing pain and suffering to another being.
I cannot think of anything else because ‘justice’, ‘criminal’ and ‘cruelty’ covers just about everything. The Laws we enact are supposed to help the practitioners of the Law to draw the line at the point where my ‘freedom’ (to do what I like) stops and your ‘freedom’ (to do what you like) begins.
This also includes internet.