It is an explanation of why games are not on gOg, but not why gOg games (already DRM free) are not in Humble Bundles (or sold via Humble Widgets, as with Shovel Knight)

It was in response to the OP (thread topic) that was frustrated because games just released on GOG were also in bundles. I wasn't trying to offer any other explanation :p

Actually a good point.... the OP want to buy more from gOg and is frustrated that Humble do not provide gOg keys... hmmm......

Memo to future self, read OP.

"GOG needs to get involved with Humble Bundle"

I agree completely.

I read the OP frustration as a devaluing of GOG. (I.E. no one will buy from GOG because they can get it cheap on Humble). And since its only been a short time on GOG, they think the titles will never be successful, since most folks interested will get them now (or from steamgifts). However, I agree that Humble should sell GOG keys. There are many games that I won't buy, even on sale... but in a bundle, I'd try them out. At some point, they are losing SOME money by not bundling. How much, is hard to guess.

Theoretically, you could say that, I guess.
In reality, the bully doesn't "compete" with a nobody.

aye, but it makes the thread title ("GOG needs to get involved with Humble Bundle") not fitting with the OP. If the OP want to get more involved, it is a frustration that Humble do not provide the keys. If it is a frustration that Humble is devaluing gOg, it does not quite fit.

I'm confused at people who say that GoG shouldn't deal with Humble (provide them keys). At the very least, you are allowing the possibility of traffic coming to GoG, which in term may lead to other sales that GoG never would of seen otherwise. It is in my opinion that most people who buy humble bundles probably don't even know GoG exists. Why don't you expose GoG to a wider audience (Humble). Especially with this bundle, if someone bought it and didn't know GoG, they may investigate and try to claim the key on GoG and realize GoG has other games (Tie Fighter, Xwing, etc) that are not available anywhere else.

You guys want GoG to grow and build more users to attract more publishers but yet you still want to live on an isolated island and hope people will know who you are. It doesn't work like that and the proof is in the numbers, considering Humble sells just as much as GoG does.

Not necessarily, the Humble Store (not Humble Bundle) offers DRM-Free games which is something Valve's Steam client can never compete with. Every game on Steam has to be ran through it unless the developer released a patch (very rarely) to run it through the .exe itself. Outside of the triple A titles, there is little competition between the two. I won't be surprised if the Humble Store receives some sort of "royalties" for offering Steam client keys on the larger titles.

The Humble Bundle is a separate entity from the Humble Store that collaborates with Charity organizations and allows developers to feature their games (often times at a loss - which is why large budget games only make an appearance if they 'bombed' or no longer generate hype) for a variety of reasons. This could be because the developer(s) are new and want to generate attention towards their work, want to give towards charities with the potential of a tax-write off, or a last ditch attempt to generation revenue for 'tanked' titles like Dead Space 3. It looks good on the publisher/developer(s) regardless so many participate.

Regarding GOG's stance on the Humble entity itself, think they made it quite "clear" during the Bastion fiasco'. I'm still new to GOG itself compared to most members, but remember the incident being strongly "discussed" on gaming journalism sites.

Correction: It was actually Botanicula, not Bastion. Knew it was an indie title that started with a B. It took me a while of grave yard digging through the forums.

What happened to Bastion?
Was it supposed to come to GoG?
(I love this game btw).

well... good to know. That means gOg is not a competitor to steam

(ignoring the fact that you can use staam to deliver games DRM free)

False. None of the DOSBox games on Steam require steam to run. And quite a few other games (though still a minority of all steam games) do not require Steam to run either. An example of a non-DOSBox game would be Carmageddon 2, since steam delivers the same files GOG does.
You do require the client to download the game, but afterwards (depending on the game) the client may not be needed. No way to know before hand though unless someone checks, and the files may be later patched.

Yeah, I also dream about a "Humble GOG Bundle" with nothing but GOG keys one day.

It's hard for GOG to gain market share and new customers when buying Steam games is 20 times cheaper with bundles like these.

In many ways this is my concern. I was an avid Steam user up till about 2011, when I discovered GOG. There is an odd psychological component to Steam that many users have. They don't like buying from other stores because it creates "clutter", or whatever the digital equivalent is. Every new user who might have considered buying from GOG will buy from the Bundle now, which generates how many new Steam accounts? It also generates greater market share for Steam.

When The Talos Principle was released, I asked them if they had any intentions of a GOG release. They more or less laughed at me and said GOG has a <15% digital market share and the cost of patching out Steamworks wouldn't be worth it. I've been concerned that I will have to buy Hotline Miami 2 from Steam as well, since Devolver Digital has been extremely cagey when probed if they planned to release on GOG.

GOG is the greatest gift to the modern PC gamer and I don't want many of their policies to change. However, they need to do something to promote their website above the competitors. Many new digital stores have popped up since GOG and have already gained greater market shares. I'm hoping GOG Galaxy achieves this but we know so little about it that I can't say for sure.

Wasn't aware of that. Wonder how large the DOSBox collection is compared to the overall Steam catalogue? Outside of a few select older titles, which the developers released a patch previously mentioned, and free-to-play MMO clients - which you can download from their official website - mostly every other game featured on Valve's client requires Steam.

Would be skeptical of claims based off a few examples instead of the majority. Equivalent to those who call GOG a "sham"based off the small select titles that incorporate DRM elements, when the majority of the catalogue is entirely DRM-free.