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This is my favourite topic
Posted June 19, 2020
CORRECTION:

“not voting for in this game” => “these are the people I would not vote for ON THIS DAY”.
Posted June 19, 2020
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Vitek: Everyone who dared to read into avatar changes and label it as scummy deserves to be lynched by the worst way of lynching.
Hmm, so what do you think now in regards to gogtrial and his opinion of Joe?
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Microfish_1: yes. I think GOGtrial as of post 197 is getting town points and idk about joe--"is he neutral or moving towards scum?"
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Microfish_1: vote joe
everyone knows there is no such thing as rain inside the queen's court. anyone claiming that her roof leaks is scum.
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ZFR: Why? Seemed like a legit post. Joe wrote the same thing about me, which I can see as a valid concern.
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dedoporno: Of course, it can be valid if it's coming from Town. But it can also be used by scum as a sudden free opportunity to twist the lens through which others are seen and plant the seed of doubt. The latter is something that scum Lift would totally do. I'm more wary of him since our last game together and that's probably why it's concerning me more that it came from him and not anyone else. But you are absolutely correct that it may have come as a genuine Town preoccupation.
^ it doesn't sound right to me, this.
Do you think town lift might think you were trying to give hints to Carradice?

Hm. Do you know Carradice is scum? That's why you're worried about lift making you look bad if Carradice flips?


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dedoporno: I wonder when yogsloth will be all caught up and will vote for Vitek.

Anyway, I think I will

vote Joe

right now as I'm heading to bed soon but I'm still weighing the other options.
boooooring


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trentonlf: What do you think about Scene saying Carradice’s OMGUS gave them Town cred? What do you think of Carradice’s OMGUS vote?
Sorry, I missed these questions.
Um. Scene tends to make links like this when looking for scums.
Carradice' vote seems to be leaning on the US side of OMGUS. And considering how much Carradice took suspicion to heart in the Harry Potter game it might give Carradice more of a town-lean... yeah? Yeah.


I've got lots more to respond to, but I'll post this and keep going.
Posted June 19, 2020
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Microfish_1: bragging rights due: joe & zfr. maybe GR.
HUH.
Posted June 19, 2020
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Vitek: Everyone who dared to read into avatar changes and label it as scummy deserves to be lynched by the worst way of lynching.
Hmm, so what do you think now in regards to gogtrial and his opinion of Joe?
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Microfish_1: yes. I think GOGtrial as of post 197 is getting town points and idk about joe--"is he neutral or moving towards scum?"
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Microfish_1: vote joe
everyone knows there is no such thing as rain inside the queen's court. anyone claiming that her roof leaks is scum.
I posted this before without commenting. At the beginning of the post microfish doesn't know about Joe. At the end of the post he's voting for him.

- a few hours later and without quoting or commenting on anything I've said I am, along with ZFR or maybe GAMERAGER, his bragging rights duo.

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trentonlf:
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Microfish_1: What are your views on ZFR?
Joe? I know that a foul mood does not a scum player make, but is Joe just out of sorts, or is he also different than normal?
This question to Trent is the best justification for the vote I can see.

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Microfish_1: but as I am still convinced that Joe is scum,
"still" and "convinced" surprised me here.

I find conviction of any form deeply unsettling. Twicefold in a mafia game.

But this is supposedly-continous conviction which had not been mentioned previously and appears to exist without any basis.
- micro was not convinced before
- micro has given no reason why he would be convinced.

So what's this about? I am of the opinion that, Microfish, U Suk.

also this:

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Microfish_1: ZFR wasn't voting here. Several people (ZFR included iirc) said Carradice was in effect a useless lunch and to drop the whole thing. Then he proceeds to vote him without giving any justifivcation for his vote.
the bolding and itallicising is microfish'. But also that's what I want to draw attention to.


Microfish - why are you convinced of me?
Microfish - what happens when two people are tied for most votes at end of Day?
Microfish - how many mafias are there?
Microfish - is there daychat?
Microfish - what's the in-game equivalent term for "lynch"?

100 points if you can answer without reading the rules first.
No helping anybody! I'm looking at you!
Posted June 19, 2020
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ZFR: hehehe

"if only to remove a distraction"

Notice the difference?

You're really twisting my words here.
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Microfish_1: no i don't, please elaborate? it is possible that i misread something, but I really don't see what you're on about
...

Seriously?

"A should be done only becuase of X" means X is the only reason to do it. "A should be done, if only because of X" means that X in itself is a sufficient reason, but heavily implies there are other reasons to.

"I'd like to visit Johnny for the weekend. If only for the lovely food his wife makes."

Did anyone else read it the way Micro did??
Posted June 19, 2020
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gogtrial34987: Joe: I'm glad he at least acknowledged in a sidenote somewhere that I voted for him, because up till then I thought he had completely missed it. I'd expected more. I think that sums up my issue with him this game. I keep expecting things from him which don't appear. Like a read's list.
I feel myself strongly empathizing with the bad mood, though. Hang in there, big bro!
I like the observation just now about himself feeling quite different, in reaction to Lift.
thanks little bro.
In honesty, I know your praise and expectation and dedo's lust and vitek's idolisation is to some degree in jest but it does make me feel under pressure. And dedo will tell you I perform stunningly under pressure but I assure you all those times were FLUKE.


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Lifthrasil: Joe, I don't know. We often clash. He states himself that he feels different from other games, but I'm not seeing it yet. It's D1 and he usually becomes more useful later. (unless he decides to tunnel me)
Hmm... the stick didn't work, so here's the carrot, eh?


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Vitek: SirSomething: His usual "I don't have much to say"-self. Doesn't tell us much but if memory serves right he is a bit more active when he is scum.
actually yes! He does tend to be more Up For It if he's mafia you're right



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ZFR: If he flips scum, I'd take a closer look at those voting Joe now.
So good reason for those three and Joe to go along with you, eh? Carrots yumyumyum.


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Carradice: On the other hand, [zfr] has not been making much of an effort to lighten the mood in this game.
I find his sense of humour really shines through if you read everything he writes in the voice of cookie monster from sesame street.

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Carradice: SPF, GBS. Behave while I am out.
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SirPrimalform: Who??
YOU ARE NOT FUNNY

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trentonlf: We have about 2 days and 6 hours till end of day and the slow pace we move here on GOG means we really need to come to a consensus so a rushed imprisonment does not happen. So let's all list our top 3 and why
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gogtrial34987: Joe - Lack of his trademark reads list, two things which might be rolefishing (the "mason chat" thing and "can you guarantee it?" toward me), and his dedo vote.
I just got why the "can you guarantee it?" thing might be role fishing. I assure you it was intended as scum fishing.

Is rolefishing something I've ever done as scum? It seems so vulgar.


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ZFR: Sorry,, RL issues. Not that I'm busy but I'm just in an off mood because of them.
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gogtrial34987: Heh, so that made three of us. My mood definitely picked up today; hope the same goes for you and Joe!
but yeah, unrelated, I'm generally feeling less rageful at the universe. This game still feels a little intimidating, but my foul mood is dispersed. Good to hear you are good too.

THIS IS A LIE I WROTE A LONG POST AND IT'S NOT POSTING AND I WAS ALREADY ANGRY BEFORE THE POST AND ACTUALLY I JUST THOUGHT HOW ridiculous this all is and I feel kinda better. BUT I HOPE POSTING THIS IN TWO HALVES WORKS BECAUSE I CAN'T SEE ANY MESSED UP TAGS
Posted June 19, 2020
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ZFR: Did anyone else read it the way Micro did??
Well, pardon the intrusion, but... Grammatically the sentences are different (form). However, when analyzing the content and context, in the end no other reason was being provided... It is not vastly different from the "as good as any" that someone wrote when he advocated for a vote on Micro in the last game. Not that it means that any of the implicated needs to be scum, either.





Now for fun:

People, check this

"I'd like to visit Johnny for the weekend. If only for the lovely food his wife makes."
Let us do as in the example provided:

"I'd like to X1 Johnny for the weekend. If only for the X2 X3 his wife makes."

Substitute the X3 for the words that come to your mind. There you go! You have a generator of stories (TM). With the right words, you have a pocket story (or a seed for one) that can be anything from noir, to X shades of Marengo, to comedy, to dada, to science fiction, and so on, and so on. You can even combine and have dark comedy, or X hypershades of space marengo if you want.
Posted June 19, 2020
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ZFR: Did anyone else read it the way Micro did??
No but it's not flabbergasting to imagine I would.



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Lifthrasil: and is otherwise relatively useless.
:C

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gogtrial34987: - "Lack of his trademark reads list" (which I believe you should know he does most games, and which in #55 when he was lovers with me, he commented to me about in our private chat "think Joe, what do you usually do? Oh yes, a read's list"),
do you find the fact that the reason I did it that time was because I pushed myself, and the reason I pushed myself is because I was scum suggestive?
0:)


still can't see any uncoupled tags. Maybe it's just the extreme amount of bile and expletives in the rest of the post that's stopping gog from loading it.

BUMP PLEASE
Posted June 19, 2020
Bumpy.
Posted June 19, 2020
That was a long fucking game. Catching up now.
Posted June 19, 2020
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gogtrial34987: Can you give two specific examples of things he's said and done that make you think of Town Joe?
Sorry I totally missed this. I don't have two things he specifically said. I have found when it comes to Joe it's more of what he's not saying and doing. When Joe is scum he tends to be more into joking around and being everyone's best friend while he's Town he tends to still Joke and is very friendly but not to the same extent. I think it's because he is really looking for scum because he asks a lot more direct questions that really push people instead of joking. I see the Town Joe more this game than I do the Scum Joe. .
Posted June 19, 2020
"Aybak." the Queen called her right hand man, with little flair (or animosity).

"Yes, your highness."

Hoda was yawning for some reason. "I've lost track of what's even going on, habibi. What are the guards arguing about again?" She gave him a slight smile. He knew at that moment that she was drained of energy - that was the calmest she could be.

"I have no idea, My Lady. But rest assured they're getting more excited about imprisoning each other."

She giggled. "Funny. I thought they'd develop a sense of camaraderie or something, rather than go along."

Aybak really wanted to point that camaraderie or whatever else didn't really matter when she was at the helm, but he knew when to keep his mouth shut. He could always spill it out later, when this whole thing gets settled. He just wanted to appreciate the Queen who said "Habibi," not the Queen who said "fuck," "shit," and "moron."

PAGE 8 VOTE COUNT!

Carradice (4) - trentonlf, Vitek, ZFR, Lifthrasil
JoeSapphire (2) - gogtrial, Microfish
SirMrFailRomp (1) - Flockeschnee
Lifthrasil (1) - JoeSapphire
trentonlf (1) - supplementscene

Not voted: FlockeSchnee, yogsloth, Vitek, gogtrial, Microfish, ZFR, supplementscene, dedoporno
Not voting: yogsloth, SirMrFailRomp, dedoporno, Carradice

Carradice is closest to imprisonment, at L-3.
There are 13 players. It takes 7 votes to imprison.
Court Phase 1 ends on Saturday, 20th June, 7PM London Time + any overtimes. Only two days left.
Check to make sure your vote is against the correct person.
Posted June 19, 2020
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JoeSapphire: I posted this before without commenting. At the beginning of the post microfish doesn't know about Joe. At the end of the post he's voting for him.

- a few hours later and without quoting or commenting on anything I've said I am, along with ZFR or maybe GAMERAGER, his bragging rights duo.

This question to Trent is the best justification for the vote I can see.

"still" and "convinced" surprised me here.

I find conviction of any form deeply unsettling. Twicefold in a mafia game.

But this is supposedly-continous conviction which had not been mentioned previously and appears to exist without any basis.
- micro was not convinced before
- micro has given no reason why he would be convinced.

So what's this about? I am of the opinion that, Microfish, U Suk.

also this:

the bolding and itallicising is microfish'. But also that's what I want to draw attention to.


Microfish - why are you convinced of me?
Microfish - what happens when two people are tied for most votes at end of Day?
Microfish - how many mafias are there?
Microfish - is there daychat?
Microfish - what's the in-game equivalent term for "lynch"?

100 points if you can answer without reading the rules first.
No helping anybody! I'm looking at you!
1. The post in question spans about 24 hours or more of playing catchup; writing my thoughts as I read other people's posts. Thus, my thoughts evolve from the beginning to the end of the post.

2. Have you said anything about who or what you are? All I've gotten from you are scum vibes.

3. I acknowledge that I failed to give my reasoning, but surely I commented on other's questioning? I get that you were in a bad mood for a bit, but things just seemed off. As others have remakred in the past, a hunch is sometimes all we have to go on. Perhaps "convinced" is a bit strong, because I have no empirical evidence proving that you are scum, but when I wrote that, my gut was hollering that you were.

3.A. You seem different, your scum hunting seemed phony or opportunistic, and we are/were reading the same situations from different sides throughout today. I just don't see anything that says you aren't town, which means you are quite possibly scum. I do like your picking apart my arguments, as it shows more concentraded effort than I had previously observed. If you keep it up, I will remove my vote from you to ZFR.
B. When 2 are tied, it is a no-lunch.
C. Ratios tell us that there are 3 at least, or maybe more, depending on 3rd parties. There are at least 2, unless Pooka is running a really weird game. The OP IIRC doesn't rule out 2 scum parties of two each, or third parties, so I will not either, especially as I have heard anecdotally about them.
D. Yes. Any party of two or more that isn't town has daychat [and presumably nightchat if it is mafia. Wouldn't that be a scream if mafia had daychat but not nightchat??? :D ]
E. Execute?

EDIT: I checked and the term is "imprison" However, given our queen's temperament, i suspect it will involve execution too.
EDIT 2: the OP states
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Pookina: 6. Non-Town factions of two or more members have access to a 24/7 chat, running parallel to this thread.
This does not rule out 4 mafia, but it does rule out only 1.

The assumption that other players have been making is "3 scum" but i see nothing to back this up. There are a minimum of 2, ratios say 3, but there could be 4 or 2+2

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ZFR: snip
Thank you for the clarification; I had not previously read it as "reason + extra unmentioned reasons". However, you are busting up my pet theory, and I am not happy about that as you are making me do more thinking.
>:-(
Gie me your other reasons please? Because you haven't and as a stand-alone reason it stinks. Coupled with other reasons, it might be a tipping point into a vote, but in and of and by and for and [insert other word here] itself, standing alone like it does, it is awfully shaky at best, and opportunistic at worst.

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Who is GBS?

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Aside: Have I mentioned before that one reason I like these games is because I expand my vocab and otherwise find reason to use Big Words®? If not, I'll go on record here and now.
Posted June 19, 2020
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SirPrimalform: Who??
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JoeSapphire: YOU ARE NOT FUNNY
Who said anything about funny? I want to know who GBS is.
Posted June 19, 2020
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FlockeSchnee: I understand "not having much on D1", but you're just saying "agree/disagree/believe it/don't believe it" without saying why. Is it really too much to ask for you to give some background for this opinion/decision? (If you actually gave some background somewhere, I will find it, when reading the thread properly.)
My vote stays for now.
Ask specific questions please, I don't know which opinions I haven't given sufficient explanation for.
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