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Posted July 21, 2020
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Lifthrasil: For a while I considered lurking a bit to achieve non-visibility. But that would have been boring. My low presence on D1 was due to RL and other than that I enjoy playing too much to lurk for strategic reasons. Still, being neutral is a difficult position. Very interesting to play but I still prefer being scum! ;-)
I am with you, I much prefer tinkly as scum than anything else :-)
Posted July 21, 2020
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Pookina: That rep...that registration date...United Kingdom...

yes

Fucking SirPrimalform!!!

*continues making angry noises*
It wasn't meant to be a secret!

Literally every post of mine changed to have this user name so it's not like it takes great detective work. :P

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dedoporno: What for? The remaining players were all Regulars. No new information was to appear. That and there was literally nothing to change my mind on the matter. Both Trent and Lift were way Townier than Flocke in my eyes. To me it was a bigger surprise that Flocke wasn't scum than that Trent was. What would have been the point of no lynch exactly other than wasting more time?
Well it would improve the odds slightly. If the mafia NK'd again then there'd be 1 scum in 3 instead of one in 4. Still, the NK wouldn't have been Flocke so it wouldn't have changed anything in the end... but none of us knew that at the time. :P
Post edited July 21, 2020 by my name is catte
Posted July 21, 2020
Found it:

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JoeSapphire: Microfish
Trentonlf
Vitek
Yogsloth
Lifthrasil
dedoporno

^ I'm going to assume our mafia is in this group.

yeah I'll just trust StrongSoldier this game.

Let's say it's Trent, Vitek and Lifthrasil.
Not only is it made on D2, when the pool of players is that much smaller, it's also

WRONG!

OK, I think I'm done.
Posted July 21, 2020
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FlockeSchnee: You're all too kind. Good game though. And really great flavour. Thanks everyone.
But right:
;-D
Really don't beat yourself over it. You were quite town read bigger part of the game by many and that's important too. And there were some good attempts at solving the game as well. I think what hurt you most was your low participation. That made you easier target and prevented you from defending yourself properly.

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Pookina: I'm surprised, barely anyone looked your way. And when someone did, it was already end-of-game. It felt like you played both Town and Mafia to leave you alone.
Well, we left him alone because nobody from town wanted to lynch him so it wouldn't be wiese for us to try to steer discourse that way and we always had better NK targets to pick him. Both of those are, of course, thanks to good play on LIft's part.


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joppo: Congratulation to all mafiosos, especially Trent who played incredibly well. I guess it's true what they say that your style is indistinguishable as Town or Scum...
With my little inside knowledge I even had written good post explaining why exactly trent is scummy and deserves to be lynched but then I decided it wasn't the smartest thing to do and it will be better if I get lynched and he will stay fully out of attention of town.
But I agree he did great job of flowing through the game unnoticed.
Posted July 21, 2020
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JoeSapphire: Let's say it's Trent, Vitek and Lifthrasil.
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ZFR: Not only is it made on D2, when the pool of players is that much smaller, it's also

WRONG!

OK, I think I'm done.
wait no Carradice! I meant Carradice!!
Posted July 21, 2020
Good game, everyone! Thanks to Pooka for hosting and for the original setting and very nice flavor. A big plus to the game.

@Pooka: Since the next night action was already posted, if no other actions were going to happen, the right procedure would have been to execute the night action in an instantaneous night phase, then present the results of the night action, together with the results for the end of the game.

That way you stick to the rules while also accelerating the end (no need to wait two days more).

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Also, it might be interesting to shorten the duration of day phases as the number of active players dwindles. To a certain degree. Maybe with a minimum of 3-4 real days, so that everyone has the chance to connect at least twice.
Post edited July 21, 2020 by Carradice
Posted July 22, 2020
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FlockeSchnee: (Got off work early today.)

Pooka, players and readers, I'm deeply and sincerely sorry for everything.
You have nothing to be sorry for! You played a very good game! (You played much better than me, though that isn't saying a whole lot.)


As always, GG to the winners, and it was fun!

Also, I am opposed to Night-Talking w/o voting, as was brought up in observer. The two days where i don't have to pay any attention at all to the game are crucial to my enjoyment of the game as town. If nothing else it gives me badly needed time to catch up on chat history.
Post edited July 22, 2020 by Microfish_1
Posted July 22, 2020
I know there were Loud Noises made about how a watcher should have watched a claimed Cop. Yet there where very few Noises made about why I should have tracked said CC. Please explain if I should have tracked him or not, and how it would have affected the watcher--and thus the game/my persona--if I had?

Also, I'm glad i was right about Trent. It means I was only wrong in 75% of my tracks. :D
Posted July 22, 2020
Well, a tracker would be less valuable in a claimed Cop scenario. If the Cop is true and is killed, the tracker will see nothing. If the Cop is true and is blocked, the tracker will see that the CC doesn't move. Only if the CC is false and moves and afterwards claims to not have moved, the Tracker will catch scum. Therefore it makes sense for the Tracker to track someone he suspects of being scum rather than a Cop he believes. Of course you might have caught Carradice, if you had caught him moving with him claiming to have been blocked the next Day, but you didn't know that.

A watcher, however, can not not find something out when watching a claimed cop. Either he will see the Night-killer visit the Cop and catch scum. Or he will see the Roleblocker arrive and catch scum. Or he will see that no one visits the Cop, thereby more or less proving that the CC lied, and catch scum. So really for a Watcher there was only one sensible target from a Town point of view in that situation.
Post edited July 22, 2020 by Lifthrasil
Posted July 22, 2020
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Carradice: I wrote the post on the admin thread as I saw the forum eating two of my posts.
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Pookina: Yes, this is acknowledged.

MID-PAGE 8 VOTE COUNT!

Carradice (2) - trentonlf, Vitek
/m27 When the only ones voting scum are themselves scum.
ROFL :D :D :D Just...Why?
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Carradice: Torn between confirming someone and checking on less townie characters. Finally checked on Lifthrasil.

I was BLOCKED.
OOOH. I could have tracked you to Yogs and gotten all sorts of town points.

@Lift. Per Rule 6, where was your 3rd party chat?
Post edited July 22, 2020 by Microfish_1
Posted July 22, 2020
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Lifthrasil: Well, a tracker would be less valuable in a claimed Cop scenario. If the Cop is true and is killed, the tracker will see nothing. If the Cop is true and is blocked, the tracker will see that the CC doesn't move. Only if the CC is false and moves and afterwards claims to not have moved, the Tracker will catch scum. Therefore it makes sense for the Tracker to track someone he suspects of being scum rather than a Cop he believes. Of course you might have caught Carradice, if you had caught him moving with him claiming to have been blocked the next Day, but you didn't know that.

A watcher, however, can not not find something out when watching a claimed cop. Either he will see the Night-killer visit the Cop and catch scum. Or he will see the Roleblocker arrive and catch scum. Or he will see that no one visits the Cop, thereby more or less proving that the CC lied, and catch scum. So really for a Watcher there was only one sensible target from a Town point of view in that situation.
Thank you--I appreciate it.

@Pooka, where did the N3 actions go? The one where I was RB'd?
They are missing from the admin thread
Posted July 22, 2020
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Microfish_1: @Lift. Per Rule 6, where was your 3rd party chat?
Oh, I was talking to myself all the time! There is just no written record of that. ;-)
Posted July 22, 2020
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Microfish_1: @Lift. Per Rule 6, where was your 3rd party chat?
6. Non-Town factions of two or more members have access to a 24/7 chat, running parallel to this thread.
Posted July 22, 2020
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Microfish_1: Thank you--I appreciate it.

@Pooka, where did the N3 actions go? The one where I was RB'd?
They are missing from the admin thread
Fuk. I better include them in a proper format. Thing is, with the dwindling number of power roles, there was less incentive to catalogue them so as not to screw up the sequence of events, but that's no excuse for missing actions.
Posted July 22, 2020
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FlockeSchnee: @all:
Please don't be offended, if I don't react to personal things being posted. I'm not too good with social interactions, so I stopped trying (for most part) some time ago. (At least I treat everyone equal? Well, I think I do, but I don't keep track.)
Fair enough....you did well this game(more posts and more guesswork and such) imo, and I loved having you here. :)

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Carradice: Also, it might be interesting to shorten the duration of day phases as the number of active players dwindles. To a certain degree. Maybe with a minimum of 3-4 real days, so that everyone has the chance to connect at least twice.
Sounds like a good suggestion.
Post edited July 22, 2020 by GameRacer
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