Yes, after you brought it up, it doesn't look a bit off. But still, without a counter claim and with the breadcrumbing I do believe Micro's claim.

I agree that a 2 player scum team in a 13 player game seems unlikely. Unless we have a second anti-town faction. The OP mentions factions with a chat. Plural. Would have to be a non-killing one. Otherwise we would have noticed by now. And I speculate about anti-townish neutral, because a purely neutral role wouldn't balance a 2 scum vs. 11 non-scum game. But a setup of 9 vs 2 vs 2 is conceivable and compatible with the OP.

However, all of that is speculation until we see a third party flip. First, I want to see your flip. Tomorrow we'll see what we learn from that. I still think that you are one of the more likely scum. But if you really are Town, then yes, a mass claim might be in order Tomorrow.

@all: I have to be off for today. As requested, I will not hammer. Someone else can do that or you can just wait for the deadline and the simple majority lynch mechanic to strike.

My point is that he corrected your "considering" into "assuming" and "if" is just the short version of "assuming" (someone correct me if I'm wrong on this). So he souldn't have taken issue with that. Or is that what you meant?

About the in-between bit: It just seemed to me, that this possibility fell under the table. And that could have been deliberatly. That's why I brought it up again. Otherwise Fair enough.


So you do that every game as you see fit, and regardless of alignment?


Can those who have played with dedo before confirm this, if they may?´That would be one (useless) thing less to clock up my mind from now on then.


? You mean because Carradice refused to vote him at the end of Day1? Like I wrote.
Yes, I stated, that I'm willing to vote Lift, because Carradice voted him at the end of Day1. (could be distancing (MafiaLift), could be shading (TownLift), could be nothing at all (TownLift, but Carradice didn't care for shading, not sure if a MafiaLift would make sense here)).
Yes, I stated, that I'm willing to vote Micro, because Carradice refused him at the end of Day1. (could be being worried about it looking like distancing (MafiaMicro), could be shading (TownMicro, but hoping people might view it as the former MafiaMicro scenario), could be nothing at all (TownMicro, but Carradice didn't care for shading, not sure if a MafiaMicro would make sense here)).

from 1069 (note how I'm only talking about the vote count for when Day1 ended)
"Going of Carradice's actions at the end of Day1, right now, my main suspects are
05. Microfish_1 (Mohamed Salem) (Carradice refusing to vote him at the end of Day1)
and
02. Lifthrasil (Lathif ben Rasil) (Carradice opting to vote him at the end of Day1) + His way of twisting things around and a possible coordinated play of Carradice and Lift as stated in post 918.

In 1138 I just saw I didn't excplicitly state that my former stated reasons in regard to Micro also apply here (not just Lift), but they do. That never changed for me. (see quote and explanations above.
Unless stated otherwise, former reasons remain.


About 1160:
I posted that one and then saw the avalanche of posts that came in between. Namely: Micro's claim and Lift stating to wait for a possible counter-claim. So I dropped that post before going to sleep, to keep people from wondering if I had even seen it.

About 1071: I messed up the quote in 1069 and I wanted to keep it all in one because they all have they have the Micro-dedo-connection in common.
(1138) "I just wanted to see what you answered to my questions. If it stays consistent/if my thoughts were right."
And that bolded line thing struck me just as odd as dedo's "for the record".

If I counted right, Micro has 1 vote and Yogs 3.

Only one way to find out, if I'll end up with the worst track record ever, I guess.

vote yogsloth

That is what I meant, yes. Lift scolded my for a very similar reason as the one you're dissatisfied about. And a lot earlier, too. That's what he does.

Not sure what you mean by "as I see fit" but yes, as I said I do my best to be as honest as possible. That's the whole basis of the "Bitch, I might be" meme. The very fist time I did that people almost lynched me over it as not everyone is accustomed to someone not playing entirely self-preservative (is that even a word?!) by rejecting every technically possible scenario and always making sure they look their greatest.

Not sure if that made things clearer or more confusing for you but I can't give a better explanation. If you don't accept that and wish to pursue it further, so be it.

What is your stance on the current situation and who is/are your suspect(s) as of now?


I completely disregarded the possibility of more than one non-Town factions. That is the only possible explanation (in my opinion at least) of Trent being scum, if he actually is one.

Well, that's that. Let see what happens.

Sorry, I got that "considering" incident mixed up. That was about the Caradice always on chat, not the three mafia bit.
So: He did give you a pass for your "assuming/if there is a third" while taking the time to turn mine into a "possible LAMIST-statement".


With "as I see fit" I mean: When you feel like it should be pointed out or someone (kind of or outright) asks you about it. You obviously don't state "for the record" every time you say something.


"What is your stance on the current situation and who is/are your suspect(s) as of now?"
So far, it's like before. Only one way to be sure, if someone's lying or not.
Lift, Micro, Yogs

The only things somewhat noteworthy:
I wonder, if MafiaMicro would really do through the hassle of breadcrumbing. But he was breadcrumbing, when he was IC. I don't recall If he breadcrumbs every game or just as PR though.

I'm starting to wonder if the Lift/Carradice might be more in the sense of ZFR/Carradice, so that Lift might actually be town. But I also note, that he didn't vote. It wasn't that hard to count. But maybe there are reasons for town to do that, that I just can't think of?

Vitek and trent aren't voting either. Hm. Am I missing something here? Is this about fear of a tie?

Something is still niggling me there in regards to you (dedo).

Joe on Day3 seems quiter to me and maybe somewhat broody. Joe didn't vote last Day, but I haven't rechecked his posts to see why.

I think yogs might be Mafia, but I'm following some of his advice/logic. Not sure how I feel about this.

I keep remembering RWarehall stating something like "if a lynch is easy, it's scum-approved". Micro was the only one voting me. Everyone else did nothing but voice their willingness. Does that mean people think (not just sayI I'm more Town or does this just make me look more Mafia?

Sorry. Took me an hour to write this. Am most certainly doing something wrong. Or maybe it get's "faster" with more experience?

TIme's up!

It is now Twilight Phase 3. No more votes will be counted.

Is there a reason why Mafia doesn't have it's own game forum?

Yes.

It's time to rethink it, then.

Surely.

Sorry fellow Town. :(

Good luck!

Thanks for inviting me to sub in Pookadudearino!

BAH

:(

I believe Joppo was or at least claimed tracker, when he was Mafia in one of the previous games, maybe even the same one where Micro was IC (Innocent Child)

Mostly the things I stated before:
You and Lift maybe using "didn't read PM" to "light distancing" from each other.
You and Joe teaming up on the Mason and "irregular VT".
Some interactions between you and Micro.
But that could be just TownDedo interacting with a lot of people and I see things that aren't there. Obviously they can't all be Mafia. Considering, no one else seems to not see any harm in any of that, it's probably seeing things that aren't there. Or I just don't know how to put them in a perspective that would make all this unrelated things make sense. The shear amount of unrelated things probably means is nothing though.

Yes, process of elimination. I do that one the other way around it seems. I envy people who are confident enough to that "that one looks almost certain town to me". For some weird reason I trusted gogtrial ... kind of at least?

It doesn't feel normal. My first post today took me three hours. And now I might anger Pookina, if I post after "lights out". Oh, well.