Posted January 26, 2016
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Krypsyn
The Anti-Hippie
Registered: Oct 2008
From United States
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Bookwyrm627
ADD Jumping Bean
Registered: Nov 2013
From United States
Posted January 26, 2016
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As for Zeo right now: I don't know whether he's town or scum. However, he has claimed to be vanilla town, so I'm confident that he ISN'T a town power role. It is Day 1, and if he wants to suicide, then I say we see how far he's willing to carry it. It could be a scum ploy, along the lines of "I'm willing to suicide, scum wouldn't do that, so I'm clearly not scum". If he's scum, one down. If he's town, we didn't lose a power role. And if he's somehow a suicidal town power role, then good riddance, because only a prideful idiot would suicide with a town power role.
I've placed my vote, and when people started asking that RVS clear off the wagon, I've said that it isn't an RVS vote. If you have a better candidate, that isn't me, then I'm listening.
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Comparing an RVS oriented post (65) to a "My vote is non-RVS" post (109)?
Also, which Trent thing is that?
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Krypsyn
The Anti-Hippie
Registered: Oct 2008
From United States
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Bookwyrm627
ADD Jumping Bean
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Krypsyn
The Anti-Hippie
Registered: Oct 2008
From United States
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zeogold
The Puzzlemaster
Registered: Dec 2012
From United States
Posted January 26, 2016
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As for Zeo right now: I don't know whether he's town or scum. However, he has claimed to be vanilla town, so I'm confident that he ISN'T a town power role. It is Day 1, and if he wants to suicide, then I say we see how far he's willing to carry it. It could be a scum ploy, along the lines of "I'm willing to suicide, scum wouldn't do that, so I'm clearly not scum". If he's scum, one down. If he's town, we didn't lose a power role. And if he's somehow a suicidal town power role, then good riddance, because only a prideful idiot would suicide with a town power role.
And I never claimed to be very smart when it comes to this game.
I just care little at this point since from the way things are going, I can tell it's going to be fairly impossible for me to drive the wagon in any other direction, so hey, why not? I was never much of a serious player anyways, as proven by the last two games.
Only disappointment that I face is that I was kinda hoping to finally get a feel for it now that (I assumed) there would be less conflict and a more normal game, but eh, what the heck. I'm a decent ToS player anyways.
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That Guy
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Krypsyn
The Anti-Hippie
Registered: Oct 2008
From United States
Posted January 26, 2016
This is a game about lynching and shooting people. What is a reasonable amount of conflict for this type of game, in your estimation?
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zeogold
The Puzzlemaster
Registered: Dec 2012
From United States
Posted January 26, 2016
i did say I'm a madman. You gotta admit at least one thing, I have kept myself unpredictable so far.
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drealmer7
finding balance
Registered: Dec 2010
From United States
Posted January 26, 2016
I was amusingly thinking it was the "when he acts like scum but is actually town" perspective that I seem to fall into...but only amusingly, not allowing it to affect serious thought
hmmmm, interesting wagons
I don't see much choice now but to lynch zeo. If we do, regardless of the flip, analysis of both wagons (zeo+wyrms) as they currently stand will provide some good insight I think. If we lynch zeo and he is scum, book's wagon becomes very revealing because I think that would indicate there are scum on book's wagon trying to save zeo, if zeo is town, zeo's wagon will be holding probably 3 scum.
No certainties of course, but that path seems best to me atm.
A_Future_Pilot: zeogold...L-3 on day 1 is hardly a time to think that there's nothing you can do about the wagon. If you decide to sacrifice yourself for wagon-analyzing on the town, that's fine, but you really shouldn't give up the game already. Vitek Vote Count please???
My .txt file shows him at L-2 and that he's come to L-1 briefly once.
others willing to correct me if wrong are welcome but I'd also like the official too
madman is not smart play for town, IMO. You're trying to help town win, if you're town, aren't you zeo?
hmmmm, interesting wagons
I don't see much choice now but to lynch zeo. If we do, regardless of the flip, analysis of both wagons (zeo+wyrms) as they currently stand will provide some good insight I think. If we lynch zeo and he is scum, book's wagon becomes very revealing because I think that would indicate there are scum on book's wagon trying to save zeo, if zeo is town, zeo's wagon will be holding probably 3 scum.
No certainties of course, but that path seems best to me atm.
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My .txt file shows him at L-2 and that he's come to L-1 briefly once.
others willing to correct me if wrong are welcome but I'd also like the official too
madman is not smart play for town, IMO. You're trying to help town win, if you're town, aren't you zeo?
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A_Future_Pilot
That Guy
Registered: May 2009
From United States
Posted January 26, 2016
Yes, I believe he's L-2 but only because of his own vote which seems to be a result of "giving up". So he'd be at L-3 if he hadn't already given up.
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zeogold
The Puzzlemaster
Registered: Dec 2012
From United States
Posted January 26, 2016
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Bookwyrm627
ADD Jumping Bean
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Krypsyn
The Anti-Hippie
Registered: Oct 2008
From United States
Posted January 26, 2016
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drealmer7
finding balance
Registered: Dec 2010
From United States
Posted January 26, 2016
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hmmm my documentation keeping isn't that in-depth, maybe it should be, but I am unsure whose it was, I can go back and try and figure it out though, give me a minute...
Nope, I'm wrong, he never came to L-1, he voted no-lynch (removing his vote from himself) before you voted him, my mistake.