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dedoporno: I haven't seen you use the finger for quite a while now.
Inorite.

But, I did it last game too. Just an FYI.
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drealmer7: voting me for un-voting kryps and your non-explanation (these are minor and attributable to RVS and trying to gauge my reactions, it just depends on the view I take), and your reasoning behind your vote on zeo. but to make sure I understand that correctly: You believe he is town and you're willing to accept his sacrifice? I don't quite follow I think and so a little elaboration/clarification would be nice.
My vote for you where I also called Kryps obvi-scum was pure RVS, based on the long running joke about how Krypsyn (and Adalia) seem to pull scum so often. I didn't have any particular opinion on Zeogold at that time.

As for Zeo right now: I don't know whether he's town or scum. However, he has claimed to be vanilla town, so I'm confident that he ISN'T a town power role. It is Day 1, and if he wants to suicide, then I say we see how far he's willing to carry it. It could be a scum ploy, along the lines of "I'm willing to suicide, scum wouldn't do that, so I'm clearly not scum". If he's scum, one down. If he's town, we didn't lose a power role. And if he's somehow a suicidal town power role, then good riddance, because only a prideful idiot would suicide with a town power role.

I've placed my vote, and when people started asking that RVS clear off the wagon, I've said that it isn't an RVS vote. If you have a better candidate, that isn't me, then I'm listening.

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drealmer7: If zeo does happen to get lynched and flips vanilla town, you become more solid as scum to me than you seem right now.
*shrug* I found someone I was willing to non-RVS vote, so I voted.

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Dessimu: Bookwyrm seems too much into rules as if fishing for scum? For townies? I haven't made my mind about that yet, but the behavior is strange.
I do love me some rules.

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drealmer7: why does bookwyrm seem to you as a good choice, kryps?
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Krypsyn: Posts 65 and 109.

Also, he did that thing that trentonlf occasionally does.
Comparing an RVS oriented post (65) to a "My vote is non-RVS" post (109)?

Also, which Trent thing is that?
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Bookwyrm627: Also, which Trent thing is that?
Deflection.
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Bookwyrm627: Also, which Trent thing is that?
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Krypsyn: Deflection.
What am I deflecting away and/or toward?
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Bookwyrm627: What am I deflecting away and/or toward?
I dunno. You are the prism, you tell me.
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drealmer7: voting me for un-voting kryps and your non-explanation (these are minor and attributable to RVS and trying to gauge my reactions, it just depends on the view I take), and your reasoning behind your vote on zeo. but to make sure I understand that correctly: You believe he is town and you're willing to accept his sacrifice? I don't quite follow I think and so a little elaboration/clarification would be nice.
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Bookwyrm627: My vote for you where I also called Kryps obvi-scum was pure RVS, based on the long running joke about how Krypsyn (and Adalia) seem to pull scum so often. I didn't have any particular opinion on Zeogold at that time.

As for Zeo right now: I don't know whether he's town or scum. However, he has claimed to be vanilla town, so I'm confident that he ISN'T a town power role. It is Day 1, and if he wants to suicide, then I say we see how far he's willing to carry it. It could be a scum ploy, along the lines of "I'm willing to suicide, scum wouldn't do that, so I'm clearly not scum". If he's scum, one down. If he's town, we didn't lose a power role. And if he's somehow a suicidal town power role, then good riddance, because only a prideful idiot would suicide with a town power role.
I have said I'm egotistical.
And I never claimed to be very smart when it comes to this game.
I just care little at this point since from the way things are going, I can tell it's going to be fairly impossible for me to drive the wagon in any other direction, so hey, why not? I was never much of a serious player anyways, as proven by the last two games.
Only disappointment that I face is that I was kinda hoping to finally get a feel for it now that (I assumed) there would be less conflict and a more normal game, but eh, what the heck. I'm a decent ToS player anyways.
zeogold...L-3 on day 1 is hardly a time to think that there's nothing you can do about the wagon. If you decide to sacrifice yourself for wagon-analyzing on the town, that's fine, but you really shouldn't give up the game already.
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zeogold: Only disappointment that I face is that I was kinda hoping to finally get a feel for it now that (I assumed) there would be less conflict and a more normal game, but eh, what the heck. I'm a decent ToS player anyways.
This is a game about lynching and shooting people. What is a reasonable amount of conflict for this type of game, in your estimation?
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A_Future_Pilot: zeogold...L-3 on day 1 is hardly a time to think that there's nothing you can do about the wagon. If you decide to sacrifice yourself for wagon-analyzing on the town, that's fine, but you really shouldn't give up the game already.
i did say I'm a madman. You gotta admit at least one thing, I have kept myself unpredictable so far.
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Bookwyrm627: Also, which Trent thing is that?
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Krypsyn: Deflection.
I was amusingly thinking it was the "when he acts like scum but is actually town" perspective that I seem to fall into...but only amusingly, not allowing it to affect serious thought

hmmmm, interesting wagons

I don't see much choice now but to lynch zeo. If we do, regardless of the flip, analysis of both wagons (zeo+wyrms) as they currently stand will provide some good insight I think. If we lynch zeo and he is scum, book's wagon becomes very revealing because I think that would indicate there are scum on book's wagon trying to save zeo, if zeo is town, zeo's wagon will be holding probably 3 scum.

No certainties of course, but that path seems best to me atm.

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A_Future_Pilot: zeogold...L-3 on day 1 is hardly a time to think that there's nothing you can do about the wagon. If you decide to sacrifice yourself for wagon-analyzing on the town, that's fine, but you really shouldn't give up the game already.
Vitek Vote Count please???

My .txt file shows him at L-2 and that he's come to L-1 briefly once.

others willing to correct me if wrong are welcome but I'd also like the official too

madman is not smart play for town, IMO. You're trying to help town win, if you're town, aren't you zeo?
Yes, I believe he's L-2 but only because of his own vote which seems to be a result of "giving up". So he'd be at L-3 if he hadn't already given up.
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drealmer7: madman is not smart play for town, IMO. You're trying to help town win, if you're town, aren't you zeo?
If you want to know the truth, it's partly a strategy. I'm not ENTIRELY as stupid as I look. I'd explain, but in the event I actually live through this, it'd kinda ruin my plan.
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drealmer7: My .txt file shows him at L-2 and that he's come to L-1 briefly once.
Which vote took him to L-1?
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drealmer7: I was amusingly thinking it was the "when he acts like scum but is actually town" perspective that I seem to fall into...but only amusingly, not allowing it to affect serious thought
Well... no...

But, that would have probably been a better answer than 'deflection', in hindsight.
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A_Future_Pilot: Yes, I believe he's L-2 but only because of his own vote which seems to be a result of "giving up". So he'd be at L-3 if he hadn't already given up.
my votecount has him currently voting no-lynch, I admit I could have missed something somehow and be wrong though, hence asking for the official.

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Bookwyrm627: Which vote took him to L-1?
hmmm my documentation keeping isn't that in-depth, maybe it should be, but I am unsure whose it was, I can go back and try and figure it out though, give me a minute...

Nope, I'm wrong, he never came to L-1, he voted no-lynch (removing his vote from himself) before you voted him, my mistake.