It seems that you're using an outdated browser. Some things may not work as they should (or don't work at all).
We suggest you upgrade newer and better browser like: Chrome, Firefox, Internet Explorer or Opera

×
Mwa-ha-ha-ha! The mods are asleep or confused, and Bler thought I was aiming for HIM all this time when I really was going for the ceiling!
FREEDOM AT LAST!
Man, you guys go the full way, don't you, faking the entire sky and everything? Welp, anwyays, I'm outta here, boys. Have fun with your little lynch-fest.
Oh, but don't worry about missing me. Out of the leftover puzzle pieces, I've assembled a robot to represent me which I can control remotely to help you folks along with the game. Agentcarr programmed it so well, it even carries my profile picture and links to my PM and everything. Only caveat is it's restricted to this thread.
Now, me, I've got a court to head back to. See ya.
*slips puzzle gun into pocket and climbs out*
Some thoughts:

1. I cannot now recall the exact number of games I have played with agentcarr, but I do remember that in those games he struck me as having a much more analytical style of play than he is exhibiting in this game. I'm not sure whether this is down to a lack of evidence (it being day one and all that) or whether he has just decided to go with a jokier style of play this game. I guess I'll have to wait and see.

1.5. Relating to agentcarr again: Focus on the idea of 'teams' as set out in the OP and a reference to wearing a girdle of some sort. With drealmer's 'claim' earlier in the game, I'm wondering if these things also point towards a claim.

2. Speaking of drealmer, I can't believe that no one has really given him flack for the way he overreacted to Lifthrasil's rather mundane post. It felt very much as if drealmer was trying to twist Lifth's words, at least to me.

3. My vote on trentonlf is only half serious, so I think I should go ahead and Unvote: trentonlf. I will state, however, that I feel like trenton isn't his usual self, either. This is mostly down to his volume of posts and another of my silly 'gut feelings'. This isn't helpful, in that I can't define why I have this feeling, so I'll leave it be for the time being.

4. This seem feeling I must extend to A_Future_Pilot. I can't seem to recall any serious contributions that he's made. I'll have to check back to see what he's actually done.

5. Hunter's claim was very silly. I'm not sure whether to ascribe it to malice or his newness to Forum Mafia. I think that the latter is most likely the case.

6. Everyone else is either too new for me to judge or seems to be acting as I expect them to. I think that this pancake vs. waffle debate is very important. I believe that the waffle taco is the superior breakfast food.

-----

Three Specifics:

1. Krypsyn: Why are you voting for trentonlf? I can't seem to find the post where you placed the vote. Damn my poor skim reading skills.

2. QuadrAlien: Very sorry to hear that the place where you live is flooding. I hope everything works out alright.

3. On Voting: Lastly, I can't see myself voting for anyone but agentcarr or drealmer at this point in time. I am, however, going to withhold my vote for the time being. I'd like to hear more from the both of them.
6. Everyone else is either too new for me to judge or seems to be acting as I expect them to. I think that this pancake vs. waffle debate is very important. I believe that the waffle taco is the superior breakfast food.

You're voting for Taco Bell food? How could you, man? I trusted you.
Puzzle-Bot
avatar
Lifthrasil: ...
avatar
drealmer7: My understanding is that it is DEFINITELY going to be in town's interest to not lynch at somepoint. That is without a doubt what we are striving for, peace and no killing.
Yes. But it isn't sure that we get there. Therefore it only MAY be in the interest of town to stop lynching. I.e. ONLY if we manage to eliminate all assassins first. Otherwise, if we go your way and DEFINITELY stop lynching at some point, we hand the win to scum. Because they won't stop killing as long as they are alive. You are constructing a case out of semantics. And I get the feeling that you are doing exactly what you are accusing me of: you are trying to pre-construct a case for no-lynch later. "LAMIST, I propose no-lynch and I have already discussed that this is the town thing to do..."

Also, please do read the OP some time. I get the impression that you haven't done so yet. Otherwise you would know that there are two win conditions and only one of them requires to stop lynching. It may very well be that the game ends before we reach a point where we can safely stop lynching. Therefore, to cater to your semantics fetish, MAY is the correct word and that you try to construct a case out of it is quite scummy. First I thought you were might just be misguided town. But the combination of your posts, latching onto semantics, constructing an unconditional case for no-lynch, which is dangerous to town and ignoring what is written in the OP is just too much just to be errors. You are not that dense that all this can be errors. Therfore you have successfully convinced me that you are scum.

unvote
vote drealmer7



So, with that out of the way, I have a question to the rest of the players. A question, for which trentonlf probably won't like me: would it be helpful to town to talk about possible scum roles out there? I know that role-talk on Day 1 is frowned upon, but I'm not suggesting to talk about town roles (which would be bad for town) but to share information about what we are facing. Know your opposition. That might help and I might have some information from the flavour of my PM. What do you think? Should I share that now, or is it too early?
Well, considering CSPVG's thoughts, I guess I should vote one of those two. I jump on bandwagons, and agentcarr has the most votes now, so...
Unvote lifthrasil.
Vote agentcarr16.
I would vote drealmer7 just for being so mouthy, but lifthrasil just seems too salty. And besides, the more we all agree on one person, the likelier we are to actually KILL somebody. Anybody with me on this out of the same boredom I'm experiencing?
Puzzle-Bot
avatar
zeogold: And besides, the more we all agree on one person, the likelier we are to actually KILL somebody.
You know, that is actually the goal. Eventually. To come to an agreement before the deadline strikes. For new players it may seem strange to risk lynching townies, but experience shows that a no-lynch on Day 1 is the worst thing that can happen to town. Because then we don't have anything to analyze on Day 2 and Day 2 turns into the same disoriented voting as Day 1. So we try to find an agreement on Day 1, lynch the one who we think behaved scummiest (that maximizes the chances to actually hit scum), but even if we mis-lynch we can analyze the wagon on the next day. Who initiated the lynch train? Who was all too eager to lynch? Who was reluctant to join the train and for what reasons? Who hammered? (Hammering is placing the last vote that seals the fate of the lynchee and ends the Day)
avatar
Lifthrasil: *chattering*
I don't care. In fact, I've reached such a point of not caring that I've reverted to my Town of Salem mode and gone full troll, and besides, I'm safe and sound outside of that mad town of yours anyways. Either hop on the train with me or go join the rest of the pancake proletariat.
Vote 'em up.
Puzzle-Bot
avatar
Lifthrasil: *chattering*
avatar
zeogold: I don't care. In fact, I've reached such a point of not caring that I've reverted to my Town of Salem mode and gone full troll, ...
which is not helpful at all and not very towny. Sure, maybe you are just a frustrated newbie. But maybe you don't care about town because you are not town. In any case this behaviour is bad for town.

At least you could answer to my question at the end of the previous post. What do you think? Should I share that information or is it too early?
avatar
zeogold: I don't care. In fact, I've reached such a point of not caring that I've reverted to my Town of Salem mode and gone full troll, ...
avatar
Lifthrasil: which is not helpful at all and not very towny. Sure, maybe you are just a frustrated newbie. But maybe you don't care about town because you are not town. In any case this behaviour is bad for town.

At least you could answer to my question at the end of the previous post. What do you think? Should I share that information or is it too early?
Wait, please pardon my ignorance, but there are town members in this game? I thought it was just a set of neutral teams all trying to slug it out with each other. There are actual sides?
Great, now I've gotta go reexamine my role and try again to figure out just WHAT the heck I am.
And sure, share whatever info you want. You seem to actually be helpful, unlike most of these people, so I'm willing to trust you (for now).
Puzzle-Bot
avatar
zeogold: I advise you be on your toes, gentlemen. I'm busting outta this joint.
avatar
agentcarr16: I'd like to join you. People are getting snarky just because the mayor hired some mercs. I'm just here to deal with the assassins and leave! So get outta my way and stop pointing fingers. It's not my fault I'm stuck with this girdle...

*goes off muttering about how he should never have allowed Krypsyn near him*
So if you were a merc with a Vig shot....who would you shoot right now??
What's the difference in going full troll and half troll??
Ugh. Long posts like this are why I'm going "joker" on you all.

avatar
CSPVG: [...]
I do remember that in those games he struck me as having a much more analytical style of play than he is exhibiting in this game. I'm not sure whether this is down to a lack of evidence (it being day one and all that) or whether he has just decided to go with a jokier style of play this game.
[...]
For what it's worth (which is less than epsilon), I was intending to go with a more joking style. If you watched the pun war in the OP, yeah...

That was fun.

avatar
CSPVG: [...]
Focus on the idea of 'teams' as set out in the OP and a reference to wearing a girdle of some sort. With drealmer's 'claim' earlier in the game, I'm wondering if these things also point towards a claim.
[...]
Well, I've claimed merc, but I'm not going to give specifics unless necessary. It doesn't help me kill assassins.
However, the girdle was completely Krypsyn's idea. Blame him.

avatar
flubbucket: So if you were a merc with a Vig shot....who would you shoot right now??
If I had to shoot someone right now, I'd shoot Lifthrasil.


Give a fellow a bump, so I can get back to joking.
Welp, thanks for nothing.

avatar
Krypsyn: Madam, how like you this play?
drealmer7 doth protest too much, methinks.

avatar
zeogold: Well, considering CSPVG's thoughts, I guess I should vote one of those two. I jump on bandwagons, and agentcarr has the most votes now, so...
Unvote lifthrasil.
Vote agentcarr16.
[...]
Wait, what?!? I thought we were friends :'-(

Also, try reading the votecounts...
avatar
Bookwyrm627: [...]
agentcarr16 - 2 (Leonard03, JMich)
[...]
Hunter - 3 (trentonlf, Lifthrasil, A_Future_Pilot)
[...]
Unvote
avatar
Lifthrasil: So, with that out of the way, I have a question to the rest of the players. A question, for which trentonlf probably won't like me: would it be helpful to town to talk about possible scum roles out there? I know that role-talk on Day 1 is frowned upon, but I'm not suggesting to talk about town roles (which would be bad for town) but to share information about what we are facing. Know your opposition. That might help and I might have some information from the flavour of my PM. What do you think? Should I share that now, or is it too early?
I have no issues discussing possible scum roles, I am against anyone discussing PM information or personal role information. If you want to speculate possible scum roles go right ahead.

I will be out of town for most of today, going to visit my daughter to celebrate her birthday. Here are my current thoughts:

1. I agree with Lift on drealmer7, I pointed out in post 103 that I thought drealmer was trying the LAMIST (Look At Me I'm So Town in case any new platers were wondering) angle and I didn't like it.

2. I'm still not a fan of Hunter role claiming. Role claiming now does nothing to help town and it is a scummy move in my opinion.

3. The comment by agent saying he has no team does not sit well with me either. It's a Mafia game and there is town and scum, two very distinct teams. Whether or not agent is working with someone to accomplish personal goals does not exclude being town or scum, and if agent is saying he has no one on his team that does lead me to think he is some kind of Neutral (a merc from his claim)

4. Post 309 by zeogold stating he was not aware there were town members in this game. What????

I have no issue voting for any of these 4, but Hunter is not my top suspect anymore.

Unvote Hunter
Vote agentcarr