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Posted August 20, 2020
I can prove that I can block, and I know it's hard to say but I really don't think I'd block vitek as mafia, so it might help clear me. Other than that I don't know what I can do. You think it's me because the action results seem to clear almost everyone else, and probably if I'd been investigated and it was someone else in my position I'd think the same thing.
Posted August 20, 2020
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Vitek: Can anyone provide me with good reason why Joe shouldn't be lynched?
Hm. He does appear to almost want to be scum-read at times, doesn't he? Sorry Joe, but some of your D1 arguments appeared to be a bit scummy, and your push to assume we cleared you is a bit of a psychological tell. However, Joe's claimed role is also the easiest for gunsmith to confirm - barring that he is a mafia doctor, he should not give a positive gun result, so the gunsmith(s) may wish to consider that. Of the other claimed roles, dedo's is impossible for you two to determine, Catte's depends solely on if mafia have a doctor. (Which is probably unlikely, but possible.)

@Catte, @nmillar, do you have modifiers. Just 'Yes' or 'No'?
Posted August 20, 2020
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bjgamer: your push to assume we cleared you is a bit of a psychological tell.
how do you mean? You deliberately tricked me into thinking you cleared me
Posted August 20, 2020
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bjgamer: @Catte, @nmillar, do you have modifiers. Just 'Yes' or 'No'?
Not that I am aware of.
Posted August 20, 2020
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JoeSapphire: I can prove that I can block, and I know it's hard to say but I really don't think I'd block vitek as mafia, so it might help clear me. Other than that I don't know what I can do. You think it's me because the action results seem to clear almost everyone else, and probably if I'd been investigated and it was someone else in my position I'd think the same thing.
Um, Joe - I have no doubt you can prove you can block one of us ... that is kind of the point here. (And Tweety already has his own cage, thanks.) ;)

You did hint at it with dedo on D1,
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dedoporno: Why choose Vitek over me?
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JoeSapphire: GLAD YOU ASKED.
Because OBVS if I'm going to your room at night there's as much chance of myself getting tied up as there is you ;p
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bjgamer: your push to assume we cleared you is a bit of a psychological tell.
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JoeSapphire: how do you mean? You deliberately tricked me into thinking you cleared me
Not the intent - I jokingly teased you as you often do with the others. I also referred you directly to the post it was in, which if you had checked you would see was on D1, before we could have done anything more than make some reads and look things up.


@Catte - thank you.
Posted August 20, 2020
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bjgamer: Not the intent - I jokingly teased you as you often do with the others. I also referred you directly to the post it was in, which if you had checked you would see was on D1, before we could have done anything more than make some reads and look things up.
oh... I asked if you targetted me and you linked me to a joke and I thought there must have been a connection.

But I get it now, it was like I was asking hopefully if you paid attention to me and you were saying 'of course I care' so as not to make me feel unappreciated, but actually you targetted someone else.

right. well I understand now and yeah I sometimes think I understand what's going on and actually I'm totally wrong and now I feel like an idiot.
Posted August 20, 2020
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JoeSapphire: But I get it now, it was like I was asking hopefully if you paid attention to me and you were saying 'of course I care' so as not to make me feel unappreciated, but actually you targetted someone else.

right. well I understand now and yeah I sometimes think I understand what's going on and actually I'm totally wrong and now I feel like an idiot.
Don't feel like an idiot. B will point blank tell you I don't tease anyone I don't like, plain and simple. :)
Posted August 20, 2020
well shucks
Posted August 20, 2020
So are we lynching dedo then?
Posted August 20, 2020
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bjgamer: @Catte, @nmillar, do you have modifiers. Just 'Yes' or 'No'?
No.
Posted August 20, 2020
We were reading back thru to get an unofficial vote count and found this from 3 days ago:

Start with [url=https://www.gog.com/forum/general/forum_mafia_68_acme_on_the_brink_of_collapse/post 541]Post 541[/url] thru [url=https://www.gog.com/forum/general/forum_mafia_68_acme_on_the_brink_of_collapse/post 580]Post 580[/url]. Joe says he jailed Vitek N1; at no point after Catte seriously asks if anyone can account for the possible discrepancy between Vitek's and nmillar's stories, nor while he watches ZFR accuse, then get more worked up and shoot Vitek does Joe say anything about Vitek not being able to be out of his room due to Joe jailing or even roleblocking him. One would have thought Joe would say something since he seemed fairly set on suspecting nmillar and this was a chance to call that out to town.

While this looks damning for Joe, it does bring up another question -
Would a Jailor, which mafiascum wiki says will not block an investigative role on the Jailor's target, account for the flavour nmillar saw in his pm? (sounding like an empty room) If so, would this confirm Joe is a Jailor, instead of another type of roleblocker? Mafia Jailors are not unheard of, but with only two mafia, why would there be need of a Jailor instead of a simple Roleblocker?


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nmillar: No.
Thank you. That cancels one theory then.
Posted August 20, 2020
REPOST FOR LINK CLARITY: We waited 14 minutes, so we will hope this works.

We were reading back thru to get an unofficial vote count and found this from 3 days ago:

Start with Post 541 thru Post 580. Joe says he jailed Vitek N1; at no point after Catte seriously asks if anyone can account for the possible discrepancy between Vitek's and nmillar's stories, nor while he watches ZFR accuse, then get more worked up and shoot Vitek does Joe say anything about Vitek not being able to be out of his room due to Joe jailing or even roleblocking him. One would have thought Joe would say something since he seemed fairly set on suspecting nmillar and this was a chance to call that out to town.

While this looks damning for Joe, it does bring up another question -
Would a Jailor, which mafiascum wiki says will not block an investigative role on the Jailor's target, account for the flavour nmillar saw in his pm? (sounding like an empty room) If so, would this confirm Joe is a Jailor, instead of another type of roleblocker? Mafia Jailors are not unheard of, but with only two mafia, why would there be need of a Jailor instead of a simple Roleblocker?
Posted August 20, 2020
Okay, so I've gone back through Catte's posts looking for any possible alternative crumbs that he could have referred to instead of the Dr. C one, but not found anything, so believe this to be a genuine claim (and I do not believe a mafia doctor serves any purpose in this game).

Joe the Jailor visiting Vitek is an interesting one, so I'm trying to figure out if this would have had any effect on the night result I obtained from Vitek.
Posted August 20, 2020
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JoeSapphire: So are we lynching dedo then?
You're not fooling anyone, love.
Posted August 20, 2020
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nmillar: Okay, so I've gone back through Catte's posts looking for any possible alternative crumbs that he could have referred to instead of the Dr. C one, but not found anything, so believe this to be a genuine claim (and I do not believe a mafia doctor serves any purpose in this game).
We tend to agree. It may come down to who you feel best for you to investigate, lunch Joe and investigate Catte, or lunch dedo and investigate Joe.


The deadline is approx. 11-14 hours from now. We should be heading to bed in an hour and may be cutting the deadline somewhat close due to a doctor appt, so last thoughts or reasoning would be appreciated. Understand if those from more confirmed town may bear greater weight.
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