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JoeSapphire: There's a CHANCE I'm wrong, but I've got good strong feelings about this one.
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dedoporno: This feels familiar somehow.
Do you happen to recall whether Joe turned out to be scum or town the last time he did something similar this early?
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JoeSapphire: Lifthrasil - kindly, cheerful, sensible with a playful streak. Would date again.
Ahh, shucks. You make me blush!

But tell me, why does RFG suck? Did you ask him to? And is he good at it?


But even though your list is playful, you have one good point: RW and agent aren't very visible. RW's only memorable contribution so far was defending against Pooka and agent's only memorable contribution so far was defending RW against Pooka. Hmmm.

GR, however, is just being himself I think. Active, all over the place, feels a bit inconsistent. Which ironically is consistent with his previous games.

I disagree, however, that Pooka's pulling us out of RVS gives him Town points. Sure, it had it's benefits. But I don't see it as given that he did so intentionally and wasn't just trying to throw arbitrary suspicion around to see what would stick. Can be scum play as well as town. So NAI.
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GameRager: Also most of day 1 is pointless...your point? ;)
Just sayin' :) This was more in response to Pooka's comment rather than a bash on you.


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JoeSapphire: I also tend to vote one of the people on my list and stick with that vote for the majority of the day. What do you reckon? Should I change tactics this time round?
You do you and I'll do... Hmmmmmm.

Jokes aside. It's not what I reckon but what you intend to do what matters.


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RWarehall: Do you happen to recall whether Joe turned out to be scum or town the last time he did something similar this early?
He was scum the first time, and Town the second time (when I was scum). My point is that him throwing a tight list like that isn't necessarily AI. I was more pointing out that he's been more often than not wrong in these when I saw it happening.


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Lifthrasil: But tell me, why does RFG suck? Did you ask him to? And is he good at it?
Asking the real questions.

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Lifthrasil: GR, however, is just being himself I think. Active, all over the place, feels a bit inconsistent. Which ironically is consistent with his previous games.
Hear, hear.


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Lifthrasil: I disagree, however, that Pooka's pulling us out of RVS gives him Town points. Sure, it had it's benefits. But I don't see it as given that he did so intentionally and wasn't just trying to throw arbitrary suspicion around to see what would stick.
I'm entertaining the idea where Pooka was just playing around, overdid it a bit by accident and when it backfired did his best to present it as a good thing that helped us earning him pats on the back. That's probably wrong, though.
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Lifthrasil: But even though your list is playful, you have one good point: RW and agent aren't very visible. RW's only memorable contribution so far was defending against Pooka and agent's only memorable contribution so far was defending RW against Pooka. Hmmm.
Have we even had 24 hours of game yet? I don't think we should see lack of activity as significant.

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Lifthrasil: But tell me, why does RFG suck? Did you ask him to? And is he good at it?
he sucks at voting for mafia. He's doing pretty good at it so far, we'll have to see if he keeps it up.

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Lifthrasil: I disagree, however, that Pooka's pulling us out of RVS gives him Town points. Sure, it had it's benefits. But I don't see it as given that he did so intentionally and wasn't just trying to throw arbitrary suspicion around to see what would stick. Can be scum play as well as town. So NAI.
interesting. Do you think Pooka was lying in post_59?

Lift do you think I'm town?

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JoeSapphire: I also tend to vote one of the people on my list and stick with that vote for the majority of the day. What do you reckon? Should I change tactics this time round?
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dedoporno: You do you and I'll do... Hmmmmmm.

Jokes aside. It's not what I reckon but what you intend to do what matters.
how disappointingly sensible...

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RWarehall: Do you happen to recall whether Joe turned out to be scum or town the last time he did something similar this early?
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dedoporno: He was scum the first time, and Town the second time (when I was scum). My point is that him throwing a tight list like that isn't necessarily AI. I was more pointing out that he's been more often than not wrong in these when I saw it happening.
:C you don't think I'm right? But my feeling!

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dedoporno: I'm entertaining the idea where Pooka was just playing around, overdid it a bit by accident and when it backfired did his best to present it as a good thing that helped us earning him pats on the back. That's probably wrong, though.
Why probably wrong?

Dedo who do you reckon are the mafia? If you had to shoot two right now who would it be?
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dedoporno: Just sayin' :) This was more in response to Pooka's comment rather than a bash on you.
*In Mario voice* Okey dokey

I knew that it wasn't a bash on me and was just commenting on your points with some counter of my own. :)
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Lifthrasil: agent's only memorable contribution so far was defending RW against Pooka.
I'd claim that I have no idea what alignment RW is and thus I'm not defending him, but that'd be defending myself and I'm too lazy for that.

So yeah, RW is absolutely, 100% Town-to-the-core and I will fight you on that.
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JoeSapphire: :C you don't think I'm right? But my feeling!
Who knows, maybe this is the time when you get it right.

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JoeSapphire: Why probably wrong?
Because things are rarely that easy.

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JoeSapphire: Dedo who do you reckon are the mafia? If you had to shoot two right now who would it be?
Can't tell yet. Most everyone are being themselves. If I was forced to shoot blindly I'd probably take out blotunga who always weird me out. And maybe RW since I can't read him very well and that annoys me.
A slightly later and maybe slightly more relevant Vote count

Being Voted ------------------------------------ Voted by
GameRager------------------------------------- Lift (Post 6)
Lift -----------------------------------------------ZFR (Post 12)
JoeSapphire------------------------------------ RedFireGaming (Post 16)
PookaMustard---------------------------------- agent (Post 17) Blotunga (Post 33)
dedoporno-------------------------------------- RWarehall (Post 19)

Pooka is closest to lynch at L-4
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Lifthrasil: But tell me, why does RFG suck? Did you ask him to? And is he good at it?
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JoeSapphire: he sucks at voting for mafia. He's doing pretty good at it so far, we'll have to see if he keeps it up.
Wait, am I pretty good at voting for mafia or do I suck? And since I voted for you, does that make you scum?
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Lifthrasil: Probability doesn't always work in a probable way!
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Lifthrasil: But if you have any clue about statistics you will understand that such deviations from perceived probability exist and that they don't have any bearing on further, un-correlated draws.
Did you really believe that RWarehall seriously thought dedo is more likely to be scum now because of his record?
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ZFR: Did you really believe that RWarehall seriously thought dedo is more likely to be scum now because of his record?
And you don't? I mean there's Karma...and those same lucky but imperfect dice all the cool moderators pass around to each other because we all know they couldn't possibly use an online random number generator...

Dedo's clearly guilty! Of something anyway...
In post 31, Lift himself wrote that no one would take you seriously. Yet post 20 and 24, he explained it to you as if he was taking you seriously.
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dedoporno: Do you think someone was getting close to getting seen/accused so Pooka felt the need to step in and take some of the heat?

This is also a good point.

Would you say someone other than himself drove Pooka in this situation? If yes, who and when? If not, how would they be using him like that?



I'm curious what your and Blotunga's alignments were the first time.


You have no idea about my standards. I'm extremely quite, I was among the most active players a while back and now look at me... Work, baby and general laziness has gotten the best of me.


As for RW who allegedly made a move upon my person - yeah, no. Just no,.


I have another page of posts to go through. I'll be back after I finish preparing dinner.
I was town, zfr was scum go figure. And when he voted for me using random zfr was town and I was scum. Go figure. We are meant to kill eachother ;).

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JoeSapphire: So you did, sorry about that.

Don't feel too bad. At least I remembered that I'd forgotten you. Blotunga didn't even get on the list. :|


Carr - grabbed hold of Pooka's hand as Pook dragged us out of RVS.
Blotunga - came back at Pooka in a manner that rubbed others up the wrong way, Blotunga's on track for a perfect town victory.
Ah yes, the irony...
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JoeSapphire: interesting. Do you think Pooka was lying in post_59?

Lift do you think I'm town?
He may be bending the truth a bit or using a true sentiment to cover up a small blunder. He may really hate RVS. Many do. But I wonder whether ending RVS really was the original intent behind his accusation and not only a convenient excuse.

Second question: no, of course not! You are always scum. But so far I haven't seen anything that proves this well known fact. Your playful and at times nonsensical game-start is just very much you.

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ZFR: In post 31, Lift himself wrote that no one would take you seriously. Yet post 20 and 24, he explained it to you as if he was taking you seriously.
I was joining in his game. As I said, I didn't expect anyone to take it seriously, since basing current probability on past draws is quite preposterous. So I thought it would be obvious that his reasoning was jokey. So I was berating him for his false thinking, just to have something to talk about, without believing that he actually meant his false argument.
What I don't like about RVS is that I'm never sure if we're really out or not. I mean so far we still have no real leads. Yes Pooka made a small slip, but that might be just like my vote for @lift in the previous game on his joke no-lynch comment.