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Ancient-Red-Dragon: Nope. There is no such thing as 'aliens,' planets, outer space, space travel, or any of that other kind of Satanic nonsense which the MSM, Hollywood, and the government are always pushing.
You think other planets and outer space don't really exist??? Sounds like a rather eccentric claim.
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morolf: What would be the point for aliens capable of space travel in making an alliance with humanity, or even just a specific fraction of humanity? What could they possibly get out of it?
But anyway, unless some new information becomes public, we can't do more than engage in idle speculation.
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Warloch_Ahead: I've been working on some science fiction speculation bullshit and came to the conclusion that if aliens wanted something, they'd just take it. Our militaries would be crippled badly if there was open warfare.
What if they want something you can't easily take by force?

And I would caution in regarding military action as the key to accomplishing goals. Some wars can be won without firing a shot.
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kai2: There are innumerable public statements in the last 100 years of people suggesting alien invasion as a way to bring society together (or to re-order it?).
I think someone did it 35 minutes ago...
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PixelBoy: Even if there somehow was life elsewhere in the galaxy, that life not only needed to exist, and have some technology to do interstellar travel, but also happen live in the same time as we do.
Unless they also have time travel technology! >Doctor Who theme starts<
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Ancient-Red-Dragon: Nope. There is no such thing as 'aliens,' planets, outer space, space travel, or any of that other kind of Satanic nonsense which the MSM, Hollywood, and the government are always pushing.

There are demons who can fly in the sky, but that is a different thing altogether from "aliens."

They probably will pull an alien hoax in the coming years, though, with demons playing the role of alien characters.
I can't say that I agree, but...

... what did the fallen angels promise humanity?
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Pouyou-pouyou: Obviously...
ha. alien... or robot? maybe alien robot funded by centrallized intelligence...
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kai2: but I do know a number of people there who believe in aliens and in fact believe we have made contact (and possibly alliances).
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morolf: What would be the point for aliens capable of space travel in making an alliance with humanity, or even just a specific fraction of humanity? What could they possibly get out of it?
But anyway, unless some new information becomes public, we can't do more than engage in idle speculation.
Perhaps they wanted the freedom to engage in certain behaviours without military involvement? As...

... maybe mosquitoes can't stop you from hiking in the woods, but they can be obnoxious... and cut your hike short.

It would be easiest to simply have a treaty with the mosquitoes.

Maybe a 50 year treaty?
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kai2: Perhaps they wanted the freedom to engage in certain behaviours without military involvement? As...

... maybe mosquitoes can't stop you from hiking in the woods, but they can be obnoxious... and cut your hike short.

It would be easiest to simply have a treaty with the mosquitoes.

Maybe a 50 year treaty?
So they're interstellar tourists who don't want their vacations ruined by humans?
Why 50 years, does that refer to some specific event?
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Warloch_Ahead: I've been working on some science fiction speculation bullshit and came to the conclusion that if aliens wanted something, they'd just take it. Our militaries would be crippled badly if there was open warfare.
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kai2: What if they want something you can't easily take by force?

And I would caution in regarding military action as the key to accomplishing goals. Some wars can be won without firing a shot.
They don't need to fire a single shot. The point is if we did, we'd lose. Send an ICBM towards them, they'll just shoot it down. Harass them with conventional stuff, they'll swat that down too. All those alien invasion movies where we win can't comprehend how terribly we'd lose, aside from War of the Worlds.

And besides, the only thing we have that can be provided that can't be found elsewhere is maybe vacation spots. Any civilization that's incapable of large scale space travel won't hold up to one that can fly star to star.
Oh, I'm sure aliens exist in one form or another, but not in any way as portrayed by Hollywood/sci-fi cliches. I highly doubt any xeno race advanced enough for interstellar travel would care for our piddly Podunk backwater other than to possibly strip-mine it for resources. It makes the whole "visitation" spiel nonsense even more unbelievable as it already was.
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Warloch_Ahead: They don't need to fire a single shot. The point is if we did, we'd lose.
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morolf:
What if we (US military) unexpectedly found a way both to attract and disable UFO activity and used it repeatedly between 1947 and 1952... until the UFO's began taking countermeasures and initiated a 50 year treaty with Pres Eisenhower ('53) that allowed them to freely experiment on abductees in exchange for technology?

What if the aliens didn't return in '93 to re-up the treaty with Pres Bush?

As for what "they" want...

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Some claim they want to manipulate our genetics in order to continue their line of DNA. Think of all of those Kings and Queens claiming lineage to God... or gods. And they see more possibilities in infiltration and assimilation than direct conflict.

Who knows, right?
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Warloch_Ahead: They don't need to fire a single shot. The point is if we did, we'd lose.
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kai2: What if we (US military) unexpectedly found a way both to attract and disable UFO activity and used it repeatedly between 1947 and 1952... until the UFO's began taking countermeasures and initiated a 50 year treaty with Pres Eisenhower ('53) that allowed them to freely experiment on abductees in exchange for technology?

What if the aliens didn't return in '93 to re-up the treaty with Pres Bush?

As for what "they" want...

?

Some claim they want to manipulate our genetics in order to continue their line of DNA. Think of all of those Kings and Queens claiming lineage to God... or gods. And they see more possibilities in infiltration and assimilation than direct conflict.

Who knows, right?
Just out of pure curiosity, is there a reason the aliens seem to prefer Republican presidents?
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kai2: What if we (US military) unexpectedly found a way both to attract and disable UFO activity and used it repeatedly between 1947 and 1952... until the UFO's began taking countermeasures and initiated a 50 year treaty with Pres Eisenhower ('53) that allowed them to freely experiment on abductees in exchange for technology?

What if the aliens didn't return in '93 to re-up the treaty with Pres Bush?

As for what "they" want...

?

Some claim they want to manipulate our genetics in order to continue their line of DNA. Think of all of those Kings and Queens claiming lineage to God... or gods. And they see more possibilities in infiltration and assimilation than direct conflict.

Who knows, right?
I find such scenarios a bit far-fetched tbh (not least the idea that 1940s technology could have been used to disable interstellar space craft).
But in the end, yes, it's impossible to know anything for sure about those issues.
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Ancient-Red-Dragon: There are demons who can fly in the sky, but that is a different thing altogether from "aliens."
Taking your claim...

What did the fallen angels in Judeo-Christian teaching promise humanity?

Technology (among other things) in exchange for worshiping them... and for allowing them to have "relations" with human women.

The same stories on-and-on
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AnimalMother117: Just out of pure curiosity, is there a reason the aliens seem to prefer Republican presidents?
Easier to goad an entire party of sellouts.
X-Files music intesifies.
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morolf: I find such scenarios a bit far-fetched tbh (not least the idea that 1940s technology could have been used to disable interstellar space craft).
You should always be skeptical.

While far-fetched, I can certainly entertain the idea that "we" chanced upon a weaponized application for advanced radar experiments (however short-lived) than "we" purposely envisioned, planned, and built a weapon to fight space aliens. ;)