dgnfly: Define common sense cause you seem to lack it? You think this game would nearly be on par with any normal game simply cause you're butthurt I called the game garbage and people who buy it, morons. How far did this hurt your butthurt ranking? I like how you constantly need to try to get a definition made by some unknown nobody that think it defines ''Computer game'' Cause like I said many times the original meaning means nothing cause different people see different interpretation but you seem to ignore this fact cause you need child lack help with definition cause you can't define it yourself as a person. I could define a Stick as a game as long as I play with it which would be retarded but that could be excused as such.

You bullshit notion of "things I like are games, things I do not like are not" considering i could care if it got released i just like to call garbage for what it is.

In the end your dumbass notion of simple definition would mean even broken games should be defined as actual games even if they are broken as long as they uphold a so-called definition, So if a game gets released and people call it barely a game in your notion they aren't allowed to complain most likely cause it doesn't suit your narrative.

From all your replies they sure keep getting dumb. Nothing that actually gives you validity you even needed to steal the concept of it's a puzzle game from a different user.

amok: no, no, no. you misunderstand me. I have never played this game, nor will I. Simulators in general is not my thing, and this PC building one seems very boring. it is not my cup of tea at all... however I have not issue with it existing, being sold and other people liking it. each to their own.

What I do have an issue with is your elitist attitude. who are you to judge what is or is not a game? especially as you are incapable of telling what a game is. so again, to be able to tell if something is or is not a game, you first need to know what a game is.

Lodium: Brutally hard games isnt really escapism, Those are challenges.
However that doesnt mean there doesnt exist brutally hard challenges in the real world as well.
One usally do a challange in some form to get a kick from adraline.
It feels good to overcome a challange wheter in a computer game or not.
Perhaps the only diferance is the relative safety in a computer game, theres also the imersive aspects.
It isnt really possible to be a real vampire going around sucking peoples blood and be immortal to make one example.

With that said there do exist games where you can in a way escape as you put it but i dont consider super meat boy as one of those.

amok: no, it is your statement "Most games are escapism " - how are those games I listed "escapism"?

so again - to be able to tell if something is a game or not, you need to define what it is. for the sake of argument, define "computer game"... what is a computer game?

all you have said so far boils down to "things I like are games, things I do not like are not" - not very good....

dgnfly: Actually, their setting is mostly based on Escapism, If you were to make a game based on reality you'd get a pretty boring game unless it means an unrealistic scenario like all those war games. Challenges in the real world are only for a select few because you need pretty dangerous things if you wanna call something challenge.

With a challenge in the gaming world, you take away the risk hence but there is a difference between brutal hard or challenging depending on how fair the game is made and Dark souls is a fair game for people with skill and patience.

The question is do you consider Super meat boy a sense of reality or fiction? considering the characters sure do lack reality.

Define common sense cause you seem to lack it? You think this game would nearly be on par with any normal game simply cause you're butthurt I called the game garbage and people who buy it, morons. How far did this hurt your butthurt ranking? I like how you constantly need to try to get a definition made by some unknown nobody that think it defines ''Computer game'' Cause like I said many times the original meaning means nothing cause different people see different interpretation but you seem to ignore this fact cause you need child lack help with definition cause you can't define it yourself as a person. I could define a Stick as a game as long as I play with it which would be retarded but that could be excused as such.

You bullshit notion of "things I like are games, things I do not like are not" considering i could care if it got released i just like to call garbage for what it is.

In the end your dumbass notion of simple definition would mean even broken games should be defined as actual games even if they are broken as long as they uphold a so-called definition, So if a game gets released and people call it barely a game in your notion they aren't allowed to complain most likely cause it doesn't suit your narrative.

From all your replies they sure keep getting dumb. Nothing that actually gives you validity you even needed to steal the concept of it's a puzzle game from a different user.

tinyE: Am I crazy or did we just cross over from criticizing to belittling?

tinyE: Am I crazy or did we just cross over from criticizing to belittling?

Lodium: Super meat boy is not based on escapism, It is based on a series of multiple challnges you must overcome as a lump of meat. I did not feel escaped at all when i played it.
I thougth the game was sometimimes frustrating, sometimes challenging and sometimes rewarding when i overcame a challenge, but at no time did i feel imersed in it.

Let me ask you a question.
Do you think looking at art is subjective.
If you or me was looking at some works of art do we experience or interpret it the same way always?
Woud we experience art the same way no matter the art?

dgnfly:

Lodium: The reality of our world is created in our brains.
What you see as nature around you can actually just be some simulation in a big computer
for you it will appear real, for others it can just be some very advanced simulation.
Perhaps we all live in extremly advanced Virtual world where were able to touch, feel and smell.