Wikipedia states that Belgium was very much involved in attacking ISIS fighters in Syrian war.

Maybe this is payback.

First off, condolences to those who lost someone, and for the general feeling likely sweeping over the nation right now. When you're facing it head-on, it doesn't really matter the political why's of it happening. It did happen, and now you have to deal with it. For better or worse, you're not alone.

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A lot of anti-whatever talk here. And let's face it, it's directed toward Muslims (all of them, from a lot of these posts) and Arabics. I haven't known a lot of Muslims or Arabic folks, but those that I have known, well, they have generally been good friends, good people. Sure, we joked about our religious differences but when it came right down to it they weren't a whole lot different than me, my wife, and our other friends.

So for those generalizing a billion+ people for their religious or ethnic backgrounds and blaming the current ills on them while ignoring your own nation's / group's past mistakes that helped contribute to the problems, I simply ask that you try to get to know a few of the Muslim / Arab folks that you're so ready to label as terrorists and 'the enemy'.

Pathetic. Islamists = Islam+Nazi. Same brainwashing, same belief in own superiority, same hate for untermensch/kafir.
But islamists are promised virgins, where nazis are virgins. I wonder how this works out.

I've called people out in their faces in the past. Just saying.

I have nothing against calling for the culling of the world Muslim population in public. Hell, I would love to attend some anti-Islam rallies in my state. Politically correct BS and forced multiculturalism (not to be mistaken with the type developed from natural evolutions) are killing the nations of Europe and the United States.

Pardon me but you're just being a cunt, you're no better then these "Nazi's."
Well I wouldn't say you're wrong but it still ignores the fact that their culture is trying to drown ours out. They are purposely flooding our countries with their filth (not respectable citizens). I'm not a racist (though some will say I am) but I'm sick of their shit in general, im sick of their religion, im sick of every religion for that matter and all those dick heads in the world who's trying to change the world to please their politically correct multi-cultural agenda.

Truly a tragedy. My condolences to all who have been impacted.

The problem isn't that anyone is being 'over tolerant', it's actually the opposite.

A lot of the attacks in Western Europe are fueled by people who are left jobless due to entrenched racism. The attacks in the US by US citizens seem to have mainly been by young unstable people who felt they were being cheated by the system and struggling to get ahead. The anger driving terrorism is economic, not religious.

Until politicians realize that, we're just going to have more and more unproductive security theater and useless crackdowns on innocent citizens.


GOG moderation is basically non existent, and motivated almost solely by spam reports afaict. Don't expect any of the typical controls a well-run forum has.

Just here:

https://twitter.com/lemondefr/status/712207503929507840

I assume they attacked BXL (Brussels) because it is one of the coolest, most open cities on this earth. With amazing cultural output for a city of such small size!

Most likely EU, and maybe more stringent domestic terrorist policy, was an additional symbolic prize for the terrorists.

But I think those terrorists were and are exceedingly foolish to think that they can inflict damage to the heart of Europe, and Brussels, the open city.

More the fools they, but bluaady brutal ones for that!!




And you'll internally migrate to Sachsen-Anhalt to enjoy AfD Bundesland policies?

Probably not.

So please! Bit of intellectual honesty here!

Economic, partially, but have you given a deeper thought on the concept of "enfranchisement"?

Or disenfranchisement.

Principled "proles" have often-times felt they could instigate change, and identified positively with others. In Finland, early-days union movement had very strong sympathy with the agrarian workers, and rightly so!

I do not think, as a pro-union leftie Finn, perso, it is just about joblessness or poverty. It is about sense of enfranchisement. Do I feel I have it? Might I ever have it? And if I do - does it matter what I vote?

you expect that guy to have an original, creative thought. He just copies and paste other people's stuff and makes it looks like his own.

I get that, but let's not forget that these are individual people, just like you and me and everyone posting in this thread. I could say that the few Muslim folks I got to know should be just as you describe, but that wasn't the case, and so I urge folks to look a little deeper into the individuals instead of the generalized picture.

And I understand that not everyone is going to want to try to that, but what can it hurt? Might make some decent friends - or at least friendly acquaintances - and get a little insight into what makes them the same and what makes them different. Might change one's perception at least a little to where one might decide, "Yes, those assholes over there are doing crappy things but this family in my neighborhood is just trying to get along like the rest of us."

Dunno. I just think the generalization based on race / religion / where one comes from... it only fuels the mistrust, the bad relations, the fear.

Brussels, where I lived for five years, is the city I love best before Paris. And then maybe comes Scottsdale where I lived too.

In Bru it does not matter whom you are - at least for a Finn, in Paris having somewhat of a French which is still above the expected for Scandinavians in general did the trick; and in Scottsdale no-one cared, so to that extent one was free.

In any of these places I would not wish anyone to try and observe me because I am a Finn. At least only.

Maybe, if someone was a great Tolkien fancier, and knew Tolkien took inspiration from Kalevala, and Finnish for the elven language, and came to me, I would quite get it.

Only I would disappoint.

Yet you tire of generalisations, and simultaneously suggest that "Muslims" should be known as "Muslims" and that is individual? Like I should know Kalevala well, maybe, for a Tolken fan, as a Finn?

If these "Muslims" only saw themselves as such, I would not approach them for that. I do not like religion in public life at all, or as an over-arching identity that much, personally.

But also, you'd probably not suggest this benevolent and tolerant approach to get to know Catholics, to highlight that Catholics might be individuals, I suspect? And potential friends?

Maybe you are quite tolerant. Only, it should also apply close to home.

No idea how you must feel right now. Except for shock,sadness and anger.

Please stay strong Belgium, you've been through worse (WWI Schleifan plan)

As a Finn, whom is exceedingly proud of the Scandi free movement; and assumes that Brussels as EU capital holds symbolic value for the terrorists, I take it as follows:

Brussels is as close to home as Helsinki, Reykjavik, Stockholm, Olso or Kööpenhamina, and Tallinna.

I am proud of all these cities, and will not hesitate to go.

But they have inflicted damage,haven't they?I mean those people..they were someones moms and dads,sisters and brothers
I disagree.I still think US is no1 problem..dont take it personaly,i mean US politics