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Show which games use DOSBox or ScummVM
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v o i d | flower Show or tell if a game uses DOSBox or ScummVM on the game's page. Maybe a tiny disclaimer or icon?
Proletario Add an additional filter, on the GOG website and in GOG Galaxy, to the existing "Operating Systems", which can show the games that are executed under Dosbox, this would not be discordant since the name of "Operating Systems" right now is already a way of categorizing the platform since strictly not Linux or Windows or Macos are strictly U 22.04 would be.
QWEEDDYZ Some kinda "in progress". For storepage description. All DosBox games marked as DoxBox releases in GOG API and that appear on store page in description only.
lxne Could be done by adding a new category to 'SYSTEM': Windows, OSX (btw. now called macOS), Linux, (NEW)Virtualisation. And under 'Virtualisation': ScummVM, DosBox, ...
lxne Come on.
Please do it.
notsofastmyboy I'm in the process of integrating all my games on GOG.com that use ScummVM into my existing ScummVM installation, and I'd love a feature to sort ones GOG.com library to show only games that use ScummVM (and/or DOSBox, for that matter). Please, make that happen.
dmitroid Yes!!! Do it!!
fr33kSh0w2012 THIS IS A MUCH NEEDED FEATURE!
SirTawmis Or just ensure that all the DOS games have ALL the files (Kyrandia with the recent ScummVM release, for example is missing the game's normal executable), making it difficult for those that have Dosbox (and prefer that or play on native systems)... Made a wish list for that over here: www.gog.com/wishlist/site/for_dos_games_if_theyre_scumvm_also_include_original_files
GusCE6 This would not be a bad idea.
eagle1611 They do this now! Thanks GoG! I actually like games that run under DOSBox, because that means that they almost certainly will run under Linux, even if not officially. Maybe there are exceptions, but generally DOS games are compatible with Linux under DOSBox. It is a lot more reliable than Wine. Romans 10:13 "For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved." (KJV)
crogonint Actually, you guys are barking up the wrong tree DosBox and Scumm are designed to make ancient games sync and run at the correct speeds on modern machines. If it's NOT running correctly on your machine, there is a very simple setting which needs to be changed.
The PROBLEM is that GoG is installing these games without running the tests to see what the correct speeds for your machine is. They are leaving the settings at a default value which runs on the majority of machines.
I'm sure everybody can appreciate how having a faster CPU, or RAM, or video card.. or even having more RAM.. can choke out any given video game, or make it run so fast it's insane. Install Windows 3.1 on a modern machine. It's insane how fast it runs. You would almost swear it's opening stuff before you click it.
Anyway, there are two solutions. YOU can spend a few minutes learning what those settings are in DosBox and Scumm, or, you can email GoG customer Service, and bug them and choke them out until they fix it. :) Personally, I think it would be more productive to learn the correct settings yourself, then report those to GoG. Then they could compile data, and give people options for what might work on their machine. :)
DosBox and Scumm (emulators) are PRECISELY what all of our games will be running on eventually. Someday in a few generations, we will need a Windoze 7 emulator. A WinXP emulator is right around the corner.. of course just using Wine in Linux for that would be the smart thing to do, but whatever. :)
CrazyEyEz24 +1. Showing if a game uses an emulator would be very useful as for me i use various devices & some of them dislike emulators (such as Dosbox) as sometimes they make a game far to slow to be even playable (or worse, crash the device.. meaning i have to force a hard-reset which is not pretty when you have to toggle power on/off).. then hope there's a non-emulator way to run the game (or on one device at-least a Linux version).
XzorBox Please ignore my comment from earlier, I feel like such an i---t. Now I'm all, "WTG emulators!" Still, I think it would only be fair to show what emulator you're using.
Kaede This is a very valid feature request, and I think should be extended to every release that use emulators (SNK games, and I think a few Amiga games, too ?).
Red Herring I believe that making DOS or DOSBox its own supported platform (with installers that run in DOS) would also fulfill this wish. Giving the users freedom to install the game, without running Windows, on their own FreeDOS or shared DOSBox setup on GNU/Linux for example. Note that there are multiple very similar wished about this on the community wishlist, most of which would be fulfilled by making these separate (supported) platforms.
Tiffo GOG currently tells buyers what modern operating systems the game works on, but they don't tell you which version of the game it is in terms of which OS it originally ran on. If it's a DOSBOX game, tell us. If the game was originally released on multiple OS but you're including the version that was on a particular OS, tell us.
Dean_Demon This is actually a very good idea and would help a great number of people, doesn't effect me in the slightest but i know it would be very helpful to many.
Rob7713 This would be especially helpful to mobile device users — surprisingly, a lot of Android & iOS devices can, potentially, outperform the DOS systems and many WinX systems these games were made for. If you connect them to a "smart" TV as a monitor, you can even have HD graphics — assuming the game can produce that level graphics.
Now that there is a DOSBox version made for Android — possibly for iOS (I don't know about that) — it would be really nice to see if a game runs on DOSox.
zerothis In the search, DosBox, ScummVM, and wine (and perhaps a general "native option" category) do need to be checkbox options as if they were platforms. Personally I don't want to buy anything that doesn't have a Linux native option (ScummVM, Exult, xu4, DXX-Rebirth, etc). I wouldn't expect GOG to keep track of all that, but they could easily mark the options they use themselves (DOSBox, wine) without requiring me to sift through the fine print.
It's not that I'm less likely to buy a game marked "WINE" or "DOSBox" (I own Arx Fatalis to play on Arx Libertalis and Ultima VII to Exult, for examples); it's that I'm less likely to buy _any games at all_ untill I'm fully aware of it's nativeness status.
hollunder It would really be much more sensible to treat DosBox and ScummVM as Platforms. Both work on basically any platform, Windows, OSX, Linux and more.
Instead of packaging the game together with DosBox in an EXE and labeling it Windows it would be better to just distribute the Dos game with appropriate instructions.
NessAndSonic I'll recommend taking this one a step further and actually letting you choose which version you want to download if you have a chose between DOSbox and something else like SCUMMVM.
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GGLapkizzz +1 from Anroid users. Touch interface is not a mouse, but the games (especially turn-based ones) are still playable. And we do have some keyboard/gamepad options.
stqn DOSBox does not work well according to my experience with Pinball Gold Pack, so yes it should be mentionned.
theMole4 Yeah, I was going to suggest it myself, but the suggestion was already here. They should defiitely add, on each of the relevant game's page, a little logo, or patch, something like "Powered by DOSBox (or ScummVM)", linking to the projects sites, so people could learn more, contribute, make a donation, play with the emulator by themselves...
jorlin If you scroll to the bottom of each game that has DOSBox or ScummVM, it usually shows: "copyright" [game company/ies] [year of copyright] [DOSBox/ SCUMMVM] [year of copyright of emulator (layer) ]
So in essence this is already in progress, but making a filter (instead of yet another GOG Mix) would be much more convenient.
archy2 @YAGOG
> I'm always disappointed when I buy a game here and
> it's just the game running on DOSBox or ScummVM.
> [...] I want the games I buy on GOG to be native to my
> operating system
Your expectation is irrational.
Games made in the 80's and early 90's were made for the primitive computers of their time.
They're utterly incompatible with modern operating systems, modern sound cards, modern graphics card, etc.
That's a result of decisions made by Microsoft and the hardware industry over the course of the last two decades, not GOG's decision and not something that GOG can magically change.
> not some extremely simple solution of emulators.
Running those games in an emulator is not a cheapskate solution, it's the ONLY solution for making them available to gamers with modern PCs.
If you want games to be "native to your operating system", then you need to buy games that were *made* for your operating system, not old games that were made when Microsoft Windows didn't even exist yet.
archy2 +1
I you won't give us official Linux version, at least tell us which games use DOSBOX (because those will usually work on Linux too).
bassclarinetl2 I +1 this as well as I use an external front end for my scumm/dosbox games and knowing which is which without having to download all of them would definitely make things easier
Jalister This would be a nice step for Linux users. I use DOSBox on Windows, so I have no problem using it on Linux. I do not want to deal with WINE though.
brian This would be great for Linux users
Belario Easily showing information of how the game runs would mean a lot to me. It would help the GOG brand strength, and avoid situations where people get games expecting something very different than what the get, and becoming rather disappointed. (I'm looking at you, SimCity 2000).
Andtha Yes, please! Add a tech page showing how this game is ported! And while you're at it, add a contents page showing which extras are included (expansions, languages, patches to the original release, community efforts, ...) so people know what they're buying...
Alenonimo I like knowing how you are bringing the old games to newer systems. Even the technical part is interesting.
MintyTune I would fully support something like this. I'm a new user here, and the FAQ lead me to believe that all the old games here were fully supported for a Windows 7/8 operating system without any additional applications (which got me a little excited). Now I realize all the old Dos games here are emulated. Don't get me wrong. This doesn't put me off purchasing my old favorites, but I believe I have the right to know whether the game is emulated or supported by my operating system. I've played around with emulators in the past and know that sometimes a game shows bugs and glitches when emulated. However, I would still be willing to pay for an emulated copy of these games if the installation was simple AND the game ran exactly how I remember it (well except for the difference between CRT and LED monitors). Any improvement in graphics and audio due to new computer hardware would be a bonus.
silalus For me this would actually ENCOURAGE me to buy certain games because I could then use them cross-platform more easily. I would love to see this as a filter or sort order.
WiiGame Yes, yes, absolutely YES! This should be considered "full disclosure" and is completely consistent with the spirit of gamer-friendliness GoG purports to have.
XzorBox I'm always disappointed when I buy a game here and it's just the game running on DOSBox or ScummVM. In these cases, I could have easily bought a physical copy for a similar cost (more desirable, for me). I want the games I buy on GOG to be native to my operating system - not some extremely simple solution of emulators. On the flip side, I'm sure people not making purchases, like me -- would be offset by people looking for games that they can play on their other devices through these emulators. I guess that would be kinda cool... IF I used my phone to play games, but I do not.
F4LL0UT For me a simple DOS or Windows icon would suffice. It's obvious that DOS games feature some kind of emulation and I don't care much about the method of emulation.
HopeAtLast For me this is a no-brainer, and I'm surprised you don't disclose that along with the game info already. As a customer I expect to be informed whether the game tied to an emulator or not before I make a purchase, as this strongly affects my purchase for a whole lot of reasons. For example, I have no way to tell how it's been bundled, i.e. can the emulator be configured? Easily? Will it work with my custom sound card drivers? Have you created a custom-made networking component, enabling me to play multiplayer over TCP/IP easily, or do I have to spend hours on setting up DOSBox, Hamachi etc and repeat that procedure, on a variety of OS installations, for friends who might no be so technically inclined? ...the list is long. In short, this is VITAL information!! Please put focus on this, and keep up the good work! Thanks!
Luckless Having picked up an Android tablet and wanting to test Dos-Box with it, I strongly support the idea of a making it easier to find and work with such games. Would love to have the option to filter games by DosBox/Emulator type support.
bugamn Really good idea. Also, maybe have a zip file with just the dosboxconf (for example) and game files? As a Linux user, it's annoying to have to deal with the .exe.
harry-jerry agreed!
vdrandom great idea
FiatLux Good idea !
Pseudoman Linux users would appreciate this, just to name one group.
blackjudas I believe this would be useful for some people. Myself included.
Lafazar This is the list of GOG games that actually use ScummVM:www.gog.com/en/mix/games_using_scummvm
kodeen www.gog.com/en/mix/games_using_dosboxwww.gog.com/en/mix/games_compatible_with_scummvm
Tychoxi Yeah it could have a tiny logo from either software somewhere.
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