Both titles worked so far on my Win8 and even cluebooks included? Like most RPG's in the early days that game isnt ment to be played through in one attempt. Its not balanced to death and here you CAN make wrong decisions. At my first attempt my party starved in the wilderness and a cold killed them all? Took me a while to find the right items and skills to avoid this. If you dont like that kind of stuff, better dont touch it. Me likes alot! A rewarding story and true challenge.