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Posted on: February 26, 2020

genetiq

Игр: 38 Отзывов: 1

В этой игре неожиданно многое, но не всё

Несмотря на то, что игра очень понравилась, все же сконцентрируюсь на минусах. О плюсах вы сможете прочитать в других отзывах. Итак: * Визуальный ряд мог быть и получше. Но мы с легкостью простим игре это, ибо бюджет пошел на другое, и не зря. А вот долгие загрузки таких простых локаций - не простим. * Игра провоцирует save scumming. Не прокнуло - жмем F9. При необходимости - повторить. Если это случилось в недрах долгого диалога - испытываем дополнительную боль и теряем -1 мораль и 20 минут жизни. Впрочем, это бич всех игр, в которых успех какого-либо действия зависит от рандома. * Есть откровенно имбовые перки, заваливающие вас экспой и позволяющие вкачать все, что угодно. Где челлендж? Нет его. Разве что вы обладаете железной волей и сможете не подсматривать в гугл. * Неудобное перемещение персонажа по локациям и огромное количество бэктрекинга. Вы постоянно будете гоняться за новыми кусочками отличных диалогов туда-сюда. * А еще эти кусочки нередко спрятаны за прокликанными пунктами, что заставит вас перекликивать все заново. И да, это так и работает. * Клюквенный коммунизм - война, кровища, закидали трупами, вот это всё. "Топ-10 гротесков, которые зашли слишком далеко". Впрочем, авторы от души проехались и по другим концепциям и институтам. Но любя. А вот коммунизм у них побаливает. * Мощный и глубокий лор все же слишком переполнен историческими событиями, именами, местами и датами. Это было бы уместно для игры в открытом мире с 80+ часами геймплея. В данном случае ты едва начинаешь что-то понимать, как все уже закончилось. * Финал истории скомкан. Точнее, его и вовсе нет. Но при всех недостках - как же она хороша... Особенно если вы - за отыгрыш.

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Posted on: October 25, 2019

skohl

Игр: 195 Отзывов: 27

Overrated, quite frankly

I was really looking forward to this, maybe too much. Maybe my disappointment was my fault, for reading the developer blogs and believing what they said. They deliberately misrepresented the final product. The blog dealing with motorics skills makes it sound like there would be stealth mechanics, and numerous guns to find and use. There's neither. The blog dealing with the game's overall length is a pack of lies. It details an underground zone which doesn't exist. It claims the shipping yard area is its own zone, but it's just a couple of screens. It claims 90 hours of content, when the average length of play is 30 hours, which is consistent with my experience as a lifelong reader. What's good about this game? I think it has great art, especially for the skills. The character portraits do at least half the work in characterizing all the NPCs. (Whether any of them are likeable is another question, but they are identifiable). The writing occasionally made me laugh. And I think the way the gameplay mechanics are entirely centered around dialogue is worth looking at, because it is a new approach for the genre. I honestly believe it's a 6/10 game, and worth a run through if you like CRPGs. That's the only praise I can give it. This game has no combat, which is unusual for CRPGs. The marketing line is, it's like Planescape: Torment without all the unnecessary combat. That would be of interest, were the combat replaced with anything worthwhile, but it's not. All of the front-loaded content, railroading, and binary choice and consequence, that is present in most CRPGs, is present here. The result? It has no game mechanics except for dialogue choices and skill checks. The reactivity applies only to inconsequential lines of dialogue. In terms of influencing the story in a meaningful way, it is WORSE than most all other games. I wish I could go into more detail here. Maybe I'll make a video one day, but does anyone give a damn? If you know, you know. Numenera is better.

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Posted on: December 7, 2022

jammonstrald

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Игр: 152 Отзывов: 41

Breathtaking in its best moments

In those moments when Disco Elysium hits the right mixture of its message, its mystery, and its heart, the game is truly phenomenal; a work of beauty. I found myself simultaneously inspired and crushed when it was able to achieve those heights. And then I would spend hours aimlessly wandering around because I didn't hit the right conversation stat check to unlock the game's progression. Such is the dichotomy of the game: I pushed through the moments in which it was a tediously long-winded illusory exercise in thought-wank to hopefully arrive at another poignant and powerful experience. Whether or not you will enjoy the game will depend on how willing you are to go on that kind of a ride. The game is not an RPG, regardless of how it wants to characterize itself; there is only one way to play through the game. Player choices and character builds only serve to affect the narrative framing of the experience. More akin to a visual novel than a crpg. It is also not a mystery game that you as the player can solve. The elements required to "solve" the case are hidden behind conversation triggers that you have to experience in a fixed progression. Need to find a suspect in hiding? Don't go looking for them on your own; they're not in the game until you have the conversation which triggers them to be in the game. Want to find your gun? You need to work with the person who is blackmailing you; you won't find it any other way. This design for the game almost had me quit multiple times in frustration. That and the large amount of illusion of choice. In spite of how entertaining and interesting a lot of the dialogue options are and the conversation possibilities they open up, most (perhaps all?) of the time it has no real consequence on the game's trajectory. Ultimately I think it was still worth playing, but I am a bit disappointed that the result didn't live up to the promise. A few different design decisions and I think this game could have been incredible.

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Posted on: April 15, 2023

jackthegreatmage

Игр: 140 Отзывов: 4

Best RPG ever. DO NOT BUY!

The way dialogues are done makes it the best role playing game ever in my opinion. BUT The investor took over the studio and original game creators were thrown out. Sad, strange and silly situation.

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Posted on: December 21, 2019

Владелец игры

Игр: 0 Отзывов: 2

Very good, but...

- Character progression is skewed and the game prefers well balanced characters. It forces you to balance your character with a mechanic that enables you to repeat diceroll check when you level up according characteristic of yours. (If you dont want to F5/F9 the living s*** out of it) - Tempo and storytelling in the last third of the game is bad. The game blocks your progression with forced single characteristic skill checks and becomes very linear without giving you much agency over what happens (Telltales syndrom) and ends with anticlimactic plothole of an ending, leaving the rich potential of all the motives presented to you in the first two thirds of the game unused. - Thanks to all aforementioned facts it has very poor replayability and I would not pay full price for it eventho I dont regret doing it. - Subjectively some large walls of the text were bloated, out of the context of the story and boring + Great atmospheric beginning with nonlinear exploration based investigation. + Beautiful graphics + Great amount of detail in the backstory of the world + Lifelike characters with meaningful dialogue Conclusion: Wait for a sale if you are not an old school RPG nerd that has nothing to play at the moment and be aware that the game has at most 2 playthroughs in it.

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