Posted August 28, 2017
KiNgBrAdLeY7
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wesp5
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Registered: May 2016
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alsal3
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Registered: Sep 2012
From United States
Posted September 08, 2017
When I downloaded the VtMB from Galaxy I have 2 games on my computer. One is on the hard drive and one is in Galaxy. If and when I download the patch will both games be affected? The one on the hard drive--In the Options and under the gameplay tab, it says "game mod loader". There is no hot hand to activate. The game in Galaxy, in the same section says "9.7 Basic". Please advise. Thanks
KiNgBrAdLeY7
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Registered: Apr 2012
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Posted September 13, 2017
This time, i took extra care not to sit down for long sessions of play. I regularly saved and quit game, then rest, then return later for more... Yet, game gets messed up again... I play always Plus Patch and run it from its desktop shortcut, never touching anything else. The series of issues i encounter this time, are:
1. First time i launched the game, fresh from plus patch installation, worked great. First time i saved, quit, then relaunched and load game, the plus patch new audio from status/quest screen has reverted back to normal, old game's one.
2. Similarly, most of the subtitles, especially from Malkavian voices, stop being displayed on screen. After some short playing sessions, they start appearing again, then they stop appearing again... Then it's random.
3. Near Hollywood, the discipline cursor disappears entirely, altogether. Unlike previous issue that i encountered over long play sessions (Tremere), when even the casting time disappeared (and disciplines "became" instanteneous, like in old game), this time round the casting time of the plus patch remains, while the cursor only is gone.
4. I don't know if it's a bug or not, but i played the Occult Nut history. Charisma capped at 3. Yet, i got Pearl of Dubai, the effect displayed normally, yet i didn't get the boost. As far as i can remember, special items use to give their bonus, even when you maxed or capped at a certain stat (sometimes when dots don't/can't display it, though, it still used to change the number at the part of the screen with numbers, but this time it didn't)... Is this as intended, or a bug?
1. First time i launched the game, fresh from plus patch installation, worked great. First time i saved, quit, then relaunched and load game, the plus patch new audio from status/quest screen has reverted back to normal, old game's one.
2. Similarly, most of the subtitles, especially from Malkavian voices, stop being displayed on screen. After some short playing sessions, they start appearing again, then they stop appearing again... Then it's random.
3. Near Hollywood, the discipline cursor disappears entirely, altogether. Unlike previous issue that i encountered over long play sessions (Tremere), when even the casting time disappeared (and disciplines "became" instanteneous, like in old game), this time round the casting time of the plus patch remains, while the cursor only is gone.
4. I don't know if it's a bug or not, but i played the Occult Nut history. Charisma capped at 3. Yet, i got Pearl of Dubai, the effect displayed normally, yet i didn't get the boost. As far as i can remember, special items use to give their bonus, even when you maxed or capped at a certain stat (sometimes when dots don't/can't display it, though, it still used to change the number at the part of the screen with numbers, but this time it didn't)... Is this as intended, or a bug?
Post edited September 13, 2017 by KiNgBrAdLeY7
squid830
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Registered: Jul 2009
From Australia
Posted September 14, 2017
This would explain why getting shot at the beach house hurts so damn much - they're only using the .38 which in theory should do hardly any damage at all, assuming decent stamina.
This would also explain why blood buff doesn't do much (or anything?) to reduce bullet damage, which is one of the reasons I use it (the other being to increase melee/unarmed feats).
3_Taverena
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Registered: May 2015
From Russian Federation
Posted September 14, 2017
This would explain why getting shot at the beach house hurts so damn much - they're only using the .38 which in theory should do hardly any damage at all, assuming decent stamina.
This would also explain why blood buff doesn't do much (or anything?) to reduce bullet damage, which is one of the reasons I use it (the other being to increase melee/unarmed feats).
squid830
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Registered: Jul 2009
From Australia
Posted September 14, 2017
This would explain why getting shot at the beach house hurts so damn much - they're only using the .38 which in theory should do hardly any damage at all, assuming decent stamina.
This would also explain why blood buff doesn't do much (or anything?) to reduce bullet damage, which is one of the reasons I use it (the other being to increase melee/unarmed feats).
Fortitude is definitely useful anyway due to many boss-ish characters using lethal or aggravated damage. Lethal can be soaked by armor, but it's a soak of 4 at best, which isn't much - and of course aggravated can only be soaked by fortitude (in the basic patch anyway - for some reason aggravated can be soaked by armor in the plus patch, albeit at 1/2 of the armor value).
Personally I find the Tremere Blood Shield to be better than fortitude though, since it reduces damage by 50% and isn't timed - it stays active until it absorbs so much damage it dissipates (which seems to take a while). The only downsides are that it's not masquerade-friendly (not a big issue, since you generally only need protection in combat zones), and that it adds a red tinge to the screen in first person mode.
As for the firearms, I'd definitely like to see them set to "bashing" instead of "lethal" - just checked the text files for the weapons and their damages are indeed set to "lethal".
Sure, I have completed the game with multiple characters over the years, and can generally complete most fights easily enough (once I get back into the swing of things anyway) - and the toughest enemies use weapons which correctly deal aggravated damage anyway - it's just that it makes no sense from a RP/plot point of view.
wesp5
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Registered: May 2016
From Italy
Posted September 16, 2017
squid830
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Registered: Jul 2009
From Australia
wesp5
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Registered: May 2016
From Italy
Posted September 17, 2017
I have good news :)! The game calculates the damage to vampires correctly even if the internal bullet type is lethal. I tested it by turning generic vampires into humans and immediately the firearm damage doubled! Also while testing this I checked the official 1.2 patch readme and I noticed that it is explained correctly there, only with "defence" listed instead of "vampires" which I fixed for 9.9!
Post edited September 17, 2017 by wesp5
squid830
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Registered: Jul 2009
From Australia
Posted September 18, 2017
Definitely good to know - and good to know things were working as intended. Makes me wonder where these calculations are done though...
Good that you checked - I had completely forgotten that file exists, buried as it is under Docs/Help/Readme.
Although by your last point, I assume that you mean the readme file is wrong, but it's still implemented correctly?
I also assume that when they mention "Defense" in that table, they're actually referring to body armour as opposed to the combat defense feat. The way I understand it, combat defense is used to avoid being hit in the first place (calculations vary between melee and ranged I think), whereas body armour (or "Armor_rating") is used for soak. I really wish they had been more consistent/less confusing with the names for Defense, soak, armour, etc. as for the longest time I wasn't quite sure exactly whether defense added to soak or was separate.
At least you renamed "defense" to "combat defense" and changed many of the in-game descriptions, so at least in-game it's a lot clearer.
One other thing - any reason you made the aggravated soak feat use armor/2 + soak_pool, instead of soak_pool only (plus patch only I think)? Because that currently conflicts with the description for aggravated soak which says that "aggravated damage can be soaked through supernatural means only". Personally I wouldn't mind seeing aggravated damage only being soakable via supernatural means (as it does in basic, unless that was changed too?) - either that or the description of aggravated should match what actually happens. Or maybe add an option to the installer (aggravated soak can be soaked with armour/2 - on/off)?
Post edited September 18, 2017 by squid830
wesp5
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Registered: May 2016
From Italy
Posted September 18, 2017
At least you renamed "defense" to "combat defense" and changed many of the in-game descriptions, so at least in-game it's a lot clearer.
One other thing - any reason you made the aggravated soak feat use armor/2 + soak_pool, instead of soak_pool only (plus patch only I think)?
Post edited September 18, 2017 by wesp5
squid830
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Posted September 18, 2017
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Posted March 04, 2018
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