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The Witcher 2What am I doing wrong (have died so many times - Lvl 8, chapter 1)(22 posts)(22 posts)
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Posted June 05, 2011
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mbourgon: Thanks for all the advice. Buncha answers/comments below.

Skills: Reposte 1, Vigor Regen 1 ,Parrying 2, Fortitude 2 w/Dmg Redux +2, Arrow Redirect 1,
Hunter Armor +13 armor, Witcher Silver Sword 10-17. Guess I need to start getting Position provided I survive this area.

Separate - yeah, been trying to do that, with varying degrees of success.

Position - I'll start working on this next. Wasn't sure if 200% damage vs 150% for a while was going to be useful. But that's how the current group keep whacking me, so 2 points it is.

Places of Power - yes, using those.

Dodging - not doing it enough, but am doing it. Especially when they first pop up.

Quen - wow, lots of people say it's that butch. It seemed less useful that Aard or Yrden.

Axii I haven't gotten to work terribly well - they seem to shrug it off.

Journal Entries - have been reading, but right now I'm doing Claws of Madness, and I haven't seen any books on wraith. Back to the dwarf, then.

Combos - is there a trick to that? I have noticed recently that when I off one critter I frequently do some some sort of death-from-above onto the next, and that frequently is a one-shot-kill. I've also started to try and time my blows, since that seems to help on some critters. Still more used to the first Witcher, and the left-click-vs-right doesn't seem as intuitive as the 3 separate styles, oddly enough.

Potion/Oil - usually make sure to do potions, don't do oils that often. Will do

Generic RPG - yeah, don't want that. I love that this is a fairly unique RPG, just wish I didn't have to ragequit after the 4th reload during a fight.

Thanks, all!
More advice. Use bombs if you are in a tight spot. Of course you can spam bombs and own everyone but I mainly use it to stagger my enemies so I can get away and reorganize / recuperate. Btw there is a bomb called Red Haze which will induce some in-fighting (confusion) among your enemies - you should give it a try.

Dodge is very very vital. Practice dodging. I always add 2 points into dodging in Swordsmanship tree. You can use WASD while dodging to make you roll all over the place.
Separating is also important, at least you have get your enemies to be far apart from each other. Then what I usually do is land 2 attacks or so and roll away, rinse and repeat.

Different enemies have different resistance to Axii which is why sometimes it works well sometimes it doesn't.
Post edited June 05, 2011 by vAddicatedGamer
Posted June 05, 2011
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mbourgon: Axii I haven't gotten to work terribly well - they seem to shrug it off.

Journal Entries - have been reading, but right now I'm doing Claws of Madness, and I haven't seen any books on wraith. Back to the dwarf, then.
Odd, for some reason my last post seems to have been eaten by the boards, hopefully this doesn't end up double posting.

1.) Other than bosses and mini-bosses foes should almost never shrug off axii unless they go out of range or you lose line of sight. Just keep holding down Q long enough and eventually they'll turn.

2.) It's easy to miss, but the knowledge panel on the character attributes screen (middle button on the right, beside abilities I think) has completely different info from the Journal and is often much more explicit about the tactics you can use against a foe.
Posted June 05, 2011
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mbourgon: Axii I haven't gotten to work terribly well - they seem to shrug it off.
Axii is a hold down Q until you dominate them affair... If you just hit the key it will start then fail (as if they have resisted the effect).

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mbourgon: Dodging - not doing it enough, but am doing it. Especially when they first pop up.
Yeah dodging when they rush in to dog-pile you is pretty much combat 101... if they rush and you roll back they are left all bunched around where you previously where.... Toss a bomb or 2 into the scrum and your laughing.
Perhaps try: a bomb that stuns, drop a couple of snares, take a few steps back then toss some thing that explodes, put up your Quenn then circle them like a sheep dog picking them off the edges to avoid getting piled on again.

Also and this ones so subtle you might not have thought to use it this way....
Ctrl... it puts you in bullet-time to allow you to pick your equip't, spells, etc during combat... You can just use it to slow things down while you assess a situation.
Post edited June 05, 2011 by jamesdoig
Posted June 06, 2011
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mbourgon: Axii I haven't gotten to work terribly well - they seem to shrug it off.
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jamesdoig: Axii is a hold down Q until you dominate them affair... If you just hit the key it will start then fail (as if they have resisted the effect).
Son of a.... okay, that's why AXII's not working. THANK YOU. The dodging also explains why being able to double-distance dodge is a big deal. Again, thanks.

Thanks, everyone. We'll see how it goes.
Posted June 06, 2011
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mbourgon: I'm trying to figure out what I'm doing wrong. Any help appreciated.

So I have Hunters Armor on now with 2 mods (13 armor), the "Witcher Sword" (11-18?), and even with Swallow and using Aard or Yrden keep getting my butt kicked. I step outside the outpost and 2 endregas kill me. 2 wraiths kick my butt - repeatedly, as in 6-7 reloads before I work through it.. I'm playing a fairly head-on character; maybe I'm not parrying enough? I specifically got the 2 levels in blocking. And this is on normal difficulty! Heck, trying to do the Insane Asylum, and 4 nekker kicked my butt.

Would it help if I posted my skills? Or am I expecting too much from Geralt? I don't remember Witcher 1 being this difficult - difficult in parts, but put me in the "died 30 times during that first sword fight" crowd. Had to do the end Troll Trouble fight 20 times, trying different signs each time. I'd like to think I'm not so incompetent that I need to play on Easy mode...

Thanks.
Here is a quote from Bar2 further up the thread:

"The biggest newb-killer in the start of the game is the backstab damage. You want to get both ranks of 'Position' in the Sword tree as quickly as you can, it should be the first thing you take once the tree unlocks. Once you do, combat against groups becomes a lot easier. Once you spend some points on Quen and more Vigor, it becomes a complete cakewalk, to a level where I'm considering banning Quen for my next playthrough.

The game is actually very easy when you get the hang of it. At the stage you are at, other than getting Position as i've said there are 2 vital tips - first, dodge a lot. I mean A LOT. You need to quite literally use hit and run tactics at the start.

Secondly, don't try to use block against more than one opponent, it's simply not viable at this stage of the game, because you probably neither have the ability to block from all directions or the necessary vigor. Dodge is your friend."

This is the most critical advice for you, based on what you have shared. The other stuff is great. Mechanics like how to successfully use Axii, and the utility of bombs is super. But a major key to this game is DO NOT GET SURROUNDED. If you can't avoid it, use Quen.
Posted June 07, 2011
Sometimes the best defense is the "Brave Sir Robin" one.
Brave Sir Robin ran away
Bravely, ran away...away...
When danger reared its ugly head
He bravely turned his tail and fled
Yes, brave Sir Robin turned about
And gallantly he chickened out
Bravely taking to his feet
He beat a very brave retreat
Bravest of the brave, Sir Robin
Posted June 09, 2011
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mbourgon: I'm trying to figure out what I'm doing wrong. Any help appreciated.

So I have Hunters Armor on now with 2 mods (13 armor), the "Witcher Sword" (11-18?), and even with Swallow and using Aard or Yrden keep getting my butt kicked. I step outside the outpost and 2 endregas kill me. 2 wraiths kick my butt - repeatedly, as in 6-7 reloads before I work through it.. I'm playing a fairly head-on character; maybe I'm not parrying enough? I specifically got the 2 levels in blocking. And this is on normal difficulty! Heck, trying to do the Insane Asylum, and 4 nekker kicked my butt.

Would it help if I posted my skills? Or am I expecting too much from Geralt? I don't remember Witcher 1 being this difficult - difficult in parts, but put me in the "died 30 times during that first sword fight" crowd. Had to do the end Troll Trouble fight 20 times, trying different signs each time. I'd like to think I'm not so incompetent that I need to play on Easy mode...

Thanks.
If 2 Endregas killed you, how in the hell did you survive the prologue's battle to open the castle door for Foltest where you had to fight like 6 guys, a few of them with armor and shields? That fight was way harder then 2 endregas or 4 neekers.
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