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well, congrats cdp, you accomplished to piss your off customers again. You said you'll fix this, but you didn't deliver. us steam users have to download 9.4 GB. really nice.

I am disappoint.
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Corax: well, congrats cdp, you accomplished to piss your off customers again. You said you'll fix this, but you didn't deliver. us steam users have to download 9.4 GB. really nice.

I am disappoint.
1) Get better internet. Takes a couple minutes to download 9GB on a fiber connection, which is offered in many areas now.
2) How on earth did you come to the conclusion that this is CDP's fault? It's Steam's patching method.
3) Why would you post this on GOG? GOG is not steam. GOG is not CDP.

I am disappoint.
Post edited June 07, 2011 by tyrindor
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Corax: well, congrats cdp, you accomplished to piss your off customers again. You said you'll fix this, but you didn't deliver. us steam users have to download 9.4 GB. really nice.

I am disappoint.
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Obviously the patcher of CDPR is absolutely able to just add the new files to the 9gb archive of the game just fine. There is no need for a 9gb patch. So why doesn't it work for the Steam version then?

Well this is obviously CD Project Reds fault, isn't it? -.-


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tyrindor: 1) Get better internet. Takes a couple minutes to download 9GB on a fiber connection, which is offered in many areas now.
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GOG-forum, lesson #1: The GOG-forum shows the location of every member below the avatar.

You for instance live in the United States of America, while the topic-starter lives in Turkey. You understand how this works? :P ;)

I'm just messing with you, but keep in mind that other countries might not have the same technical capabilities. I for instance use ADLS with 16mbit/s, which is an upper standard in Germany. There also 25mbit and - in some rare areas - 50mbit. But that's not the standard. I guess even 16mbit is not the standard.

And even with 16mbit/s it usually takes me a few hours at least due to bandwith ups and downs. ^^


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tyrindor: 3) Why would you post this on GOG? GOG is not steam. GOG is not CDP.

I am disappoint.
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GOG is CD Project. It's not CD Project Red, but it's definitely CD Project. Why do you think were they able to offer the best digital version of The Witcher 2 without DRM?
Post edited June 07, 2011 by GODzillaGSPB
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Corax: well, congrats cdp, you accomplished to piss your off customers again. You said you'll fix this, but you didn't deliver. us steam users have to download 9.4 GB. really nice.

I am disappoint.
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tyrindor: 1) Get better internet. Takes a couple minutes to download 9GB on a fiber connection, which is offered in many areas now.
2) How on earth did you come to the conclusion that this is CDP's fault? It's Steam's patching method.
3) Why would you post this on GOG? GOG is not steam. GOG is not CDP.

I am disappoint.
1- believe me, if i can, i will. i am forced to pay nearly $30 for a crappy 1mbit internet. not everyone-everywhere has fiber or other high speed crap
2-it is both steam and cdp's fault. they said they'd fix this.
3- well, it is witcher 2 forum, isn't it?
Post edited June 07, 2011 by Corax
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tyrindor: 1) Get better internet. Takes a couple minutes to download 9GB on a fiber connection, which is offered in many areas now.
2) How on earth did you come to the conclusion that this is CDP's fault? It's Steam's patching method.
3) Why would you post this on GOG? GOG is not steam. GOG is not CDP.

I am disappoint.
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Corax: 1- believe me, if i can, i will. i am forced to pay nearly $30 for a crappy 1mbit internet. not everyone-everywhere has fiber or other high speed crap
2-it is both steam and cdp's fault. they said they'd fix this.
3- well, it is witcher 2 forum, isn't it?
I was more getting at no one from steam or CDP is going to be reading your post here. You'd be much better posting on one of their forums. Then again Steam's forums are filled with unhappy costumers and valve doesnt seem to care.
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Corax: well, congrats cdp, you accomplished to piss your off customers again. You said you'll fix this, but you didn't deliver. us steam users have to download 9.4 GB. really nice.

I am disappoint.
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tyrindor: 1) Get better internet. Takes a couple minutes to download 9GB on a fiber connection, which is offered in many areas now.
2) How on earth did you come to the conclusion that this is CDP's fault? It's Steam's patching method.
3) Why would you post this on GOG? GOG is not steam. GOG is not CDP.

I am disappoint.
Please-please don't become like the Steam users who'll defend Valve fanatically no matter what.

I was more getting at no one from steam or CDP is going to be reading your post here. You'd be much better posting on one of their forums. Then again Steam's forums are filled with unhappy costumers and valve doesnt seem to care.
We cannot speak for Steam, but CDP RED staff do read here, and sometimes post. We are, of course, aware of players' issues with Steam's patching method and with the time to provide our patches. We are working to resolve this as soon as possible.
*yawn* This has been discussed to death the first time.

Steam does not allow a "local patcher" that modifies the files saved on your computer. Instead they expect each game to patch its files on their servers, and those files are then downloaded to your local storage/hard drive.

This is obviously a good security practice, however CDProject has decided (probably for sound reasons as well) to combine all game files in one huge archive.

And as that huge archive is the file that is modified, Steam forces the huge download on it's users.

There is no good solution to the problem. Either CDP would have to unpack it's game for Steam and then patch the unpacked files.
This would require CDP to rewrite parts of the game code (that expect a packed base archive) and establish a separate patching procedure for Steam (which is a lot of work). It would also require a even bigger (one-time) download of the unpacked files for steam users.


Yes, there is the equivalent of an override folder. But that is meant for mods, and would probably lead to severe incompatibilities of mods with the Steam version. And it would also require a separate patching procedure for Steam...


And solving this problem (including *testing* the solution) will require quite some time. Significantly more than the two weeks that the team had since launch (where they also have been busy elsewhere).


tl;dr: You will have to suck it up (or rather, down) for now, steamers.
Post edited June 07, 2011 by K_Murx
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tyrindor: 1) Get better internet. Takes a couple minutes to download 9GB on a fiber connection, which is offered in many areas now.
2) How on earth did you come to the conclusion that this is CDP's fault? It's Steam's patching method.
3) Why would you post this on GOG? GOG is not steam. GOG is not CDP.

I am disappoint.
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Corax: 1- believe me, if i can, i will. i am forced to pay nearly $30 for a crappy 1mbit internet. not everyone-everywhere has fiber or other high speed crap
2-it is both steam and cdp's fault. they said they'd fix this.
3- well, it is witcher 2 forum, isn't it?
You have only a 1Mbit internet connection and buy games on Steam? Are you really serious?
yes i am serious. usually retail games cost a lot more here.
Post edited June 07, 2011 by Corax
I know CDP can actually patch stuff in via dedicated patch dzips just like mods, just like how it worked for NWN (remember the aurora engine game? The same engine used in witcher 1? That one, yes).
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K_Murx: Yes, there is the equivalent of an override folder. But that is meant for mods, and would probably lead to severe incompatibilities of mods with the Steam version. And it would also require a separate patching procedure for Steam...

And solving this problem (including *testing* the solution) will require quite some time. Significantly more than the two weeks that the team had since launch (where they also have been busy elsewhere).

tl;dr: You will have to suck it up (or rather, down) for now, steamers.
I'm no big-time coder and I can come up with a basic way or two to get over the compatibility issues with mods etc.

Or, I can just use Gibbed's 1.2 method to patch it. But this is a low point for Witcher 2, which kept me from playing for a while in wait-and-see mode. I doubt CDRP wants people to do that instead of playing the game, but I guess you had to feel superior with that remark.
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TRVTRV: You have only a 1Mbit internet connection and buy games on Steam? Are you really serious?
Rural areas of the US also gets low speed low bandwidth internet, that makes them less than people? And you get censored, cut in half games - does it make the games less authentic?
Post edited June 07, 2011 by Musluk
God, am i glad i bought the game here.
Lets hope they solve this before patch 1.10........
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Musluk: I'm no big-time coder and I can come up with a basic way or two to get over the compatibility issues with mods etc.
Or, I can just use Gibbed's 1.2 method to patch it. But this is a low point for Witcher 2, which kept me from playing for a while in wait-and-see mode. I doubt CDRP wants people to do that instead of playing the game, but I guess you had to feel superior with that remark.
No I do not feel superior. However I do have some experience as a professional "coder", and seemingly simple, quick solutions usually do have unintended consequences. What is worse, a big download or a "patch" that breaks the game?
And as CDPR is not the biggest company around the block, has had only two and a half weeks since launch and has quite some other work to do (xbox port, actually writing and testing the patches themselves) I very much doubt this problem will be solved soon.

Nice that there seems to be a method to circumvent the issue, although a Google search turned up nothing of value.
Let me guess: It probably involves running some code in your local environment which - guesswork again! - CDPR is probably not allowed to do by Steam's rules.
Post edited June 07, 2011 by K_Murx
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vivasawadee: Lets hope they solve this before patch 1.10........
I wouldn't count on it. I have few other Steam games (X 3 Terran Conflict) that download the whole game every time there is a patch. It sucks.

Very glad I got the GoG version.