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While I would like to see all these games uncensored on GOG, there is one big "elephant in the room". It's not GOG itself, but the payservices that are coupled to the website. Especially PayPal is very, very sensitive to any "adult" content. If a website start selling uncensored stuff, PayPal simply stops servicing that site.

I personally don't mind, because GOG uses iDeal, that is far less (if at all) sensitive to "adult" stuff, but a lot of people here use PayPal, and losing that service would be a major blow to GOG.

So - I am sure the people behind GOG are not that short-minded at all, but the people behind PayPal certainly are. They don't mid violence (even extreme violence), but start foam-mouthing the moment things get a bit too erotic (by the way... I wonder why PayPal turned a blind eye to The Witcher 3, but I do not expect rationality from them so I am not too surprised).

Anyway - Like it or not, these are the things GOG has to deal with...
I am sure Steam can get away with more, but even they have to watch their back.
Post edited April 14, 2019 by JClosed
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JClosed: While I would like to see all these games uncensored on GOG, there is one big "elephant in the room". It's not GOG itself, but the payservices that are coupled to the website. Especially PayPal is very, very sensitive to any "adult" content. If a website start selling uncensored stuff, PayPal simply stops servicing that site.

I personally don't mind, because GOG uses iDeal, that is far less (if at all) sensitive to "adult" stuff, but a lot of people here use PayPal, and losing that service would be a major blow to GOG.

So - I am sure the people behind GOG are not that short-minded at all, but the people behind PayPal certainly are. They don't mid violence (even extreme violence), but start foam-mouthing the moment things get a bit too erotic (by the way... I wonder why PayPal turned a blind eye to The Witcher 3, but I do not expect rationality from them so I am not too surprised).

Anyway - Like it or not, these are the things GOG has to deal with...
I am sure Steam can get away with more, but even they have to watch their back.
Factually untrue. Know plenty of folks who pay for online tokens and whatnot on cam sites with their PayPal.
So they would not in any way pressure GOG to not have mature content. Especially since they already do, their first ever game and main franchise is very mature, not anything they can or will change.

It's simply a choice they made. Reasons are their own as it stands.
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JClosed: While I would like to see all these games uncensored on GOG, there is one big "elephant in the room". It's not GOG itself, but the payservices that are coupled to the website. Especially PayPal is very, very sensitive to any "adult" content. If a website start selling uncensored stuff, PayPal simply stops servicing that site.

I personally don't mind, because GOG uses iDeal, that is far less (if at all) sensitive to "adult" stuff, but a lot of people here use PayPal, and losing that service would be a major blow to GOG.

So - I am sure the people behind GOG are not that short-minded at all, but the people behind PayPal certainly are. They don't mid violence (even extreme violence), but start foam-mouthing the moment things get a bit too erotic (by the way... I wonder why PayPal turned a blind eye to The Witcher 3, but I do not expect rationality from them so I am not too surprised).

Anyway - Like it or not, these are the things GOG has to deal with...
I am sure Steam can get away with more, but even they have to watch their back.
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Baalzie: Factually untrue. Know plenty of folks who pay for online tokens and whatnot on cam sites with their PayPal.
So they would not in any way pressure GOG to not have mature content. Especially since they already do, their first ever game and main franchise is very mature, not anything they can or will change.

It's simply a choice they made. Reasons are their own as it stands.
Umm... Buying tokens to finaly buy some "hot" stuff is circumventing that PayPal restriction. Sites like Denpasoft or Mangagamer are excluded from PayPal for those reasons I mentioned. But hey - I agree that it's not clear what is the precise reason some games get censored, while other games are not. As long as you can get a patch to unlock mature content I do not care too much.

Anyway - Even Steam has weird policy's. Not that long ago they stopped censoring the store, but lately more and more games get axed because of "reasons". It is completely unpredictable when a game gets allowed or not. Lately there seems to be a problem with a "school" environment or something (even if all the characters are clearly in the 18-20 age range), so there's that. Some games with clearly explicit stuff get allowed, while other games that are the same get booted. Developers get shot down without even knowing why and/or without any explanation. It's a huge mess.
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Aetius05: I think the right move is to self censor and allow the user to install the missing content. Sunrider is a great series, but I can see how the explicit content may turn away some people. Blame it on American sensibilities for all I care.
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ChicknDuck: And other things might turn away people from other cultures. Making a game as least offending as possible will just shallow the variety we can have. Not a fan of a dominating American culture and standards across the globe.

This is a European retailer and website and we could easily force our principles here, since we have a higher population than the US.
Poles do something you don't like and you blame it on Americans. Utterly delusional.
Europe isn't one monoculture either, which you would know if you'd ever been there.
Post edited January 25, 2023 by PolygonFight
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ChicknDuck: I wanted to express my disappointment with GOG in this matter. I can understand why an US company like Valve/Steam goes bonkers about some drawn nudity, but I don't see why an EU company would ever have a problem with that.

I wrote this assuming that GOG demanded the censored version to be sold.
I asked the publishers whose decision it was, to sell the All Ages version, and they linked me this tweet:
https://twitter.com/GOGcom/status/998944158571204608
Asking, if they would sell the uncut version, if allowed by GOG, got unanswered.
EU Law is against anime, and hentai in particular. Several EU countries have had to change their laws to fit EU sensibilities. In the US, everytime a law goes on the books going after cartoon porn it ends up getting overturned by SCOTUS. Individual state in the US make their own laws to go after cartoon porn, but nationally it is protected in the US and persecuted in the EU. They are flipped and people always get this wrong. EU is more pro-real porn and sex work, but the US is more pro-hentai and cartoon nudity.

I got the answer though that I was looking for, that there is an uncensor patch. So thanks either way.