If I am not mistaken, supposedly steam made it 100% impossible for people to access video game mods that are uploaded to steam, unless of course the user owns the game on steam. Sadly this means that if everyone buys the game on steam, and everyone only uploads user created mods to steam, that everyone who didn't buy the game on steam might possibly never be able to access those mods.

I usually don't post much anymore or speak up to say anything these days, but I was hopeful for stardeus to be one good thing I could look forward to. I really hope stardeus can have it's own official dedicated modding forum or website that allows everyone easy access to community (user created mods) for the game, so that a huge number of people who purchased the game on gog.com (or anywhere else that is not steam) don't get permanently locked out of ever accessing the mods.

Multiple games have been forever ruined for me as a result of this recent change. I got rimworld from the rimworld official website and can not get mods for rimworld from steam. Same goes for star wars empire at war forces of corruption (or "Gold pack") if I'm not mistaken. Also true for airships: conquer the skies. Countless games which have most or all of their mods uploaded to steam mean that since I don't own that on steam, I will never use those mods ever. So those games themselves are also simply put, finished for me. I can't enjoy them ever again because I have no new community made content to look forward to in the future.

I am absolutely horrified of the thought of that also happening to stardeus.

I was never a steam person, but after this I'm even more sure than I have ever been that I have made the right choice by choosing gog.com instead and avoiding steam all together, in my sincere unprofessional opinion as a random person that has a passion for video games and the very important escapism they provide.

I am very happy that stardeus devs seem to be so passionate about designing a very good game and doing it better with such a huge emphasis on being able to enjoy the game in different ways and customize your experience and coding the game in a way that it runs well.

I beg and plead with the devs that this passion extends into enabling and assisting the modding community with a safe haven to upload mods to, if at all possible, so that the game doesn't get trapped with a huge portion of its community permanently unable to have access to ALL of the mods.

I fear many of the games I loved in the past may have become permanent ghost towns due in part to this.

I'm just begging you, please.

please.

Steam is at it again huh ? What changed this time ?

But yeah, that's why I've been boycotting even non-Steam-exclusive games that promise Steam Workshop (or Steam MP - similar issue) support.

The good news is that as for now there seems to be no mention of planned Steam Workshop for Stardeus.

BTW, even if the devs themselves don't make a modding website, modders can still host their mods on their own websites, moddb, nexusmods... maybe the new mod.io ?

To the best of my understanding, if I am not mistaken- they made it even MORE impossible than ever before to get mods from the steam website if the person doesn't own the game on steam. Does anyone know a way to contact the devs? Is there any hope they will ever see this thread? I hope they visit these forums, it really shows that the devs care when there is a game on gog.com and the devs come all the way out to a gog.com game's specific individual forum page to say hi and answer questions. I'm not saying that the devs who don't do that, DON'T care, I'm just saying that when they DO it makes me feel happy. That's all. I really really hope they see this because it would give me some amount of hope that they will prevent modding community steam isolation lockdown dooooooooooom for the mods.

edit: Yes moddb and nexus exist and it's a wonderful thing that they do, but in the case of many games out there, for some reason when a steam workshop page exists for mods for any game out there, usually there are a million mods on the steam workshop and moddb and nexus end up being very VERY empty. Modders don't know those options exist or don't care enough to upload their mods everywhere, or don't want to for some unknown reason.

Once a very long time ago I chatted with a community modder who intentionally went out of their way to make a moddb page to just tease everyone on moddb with the fact that there was no download file and that they could only get the mod on steam, completely defeating the purpose of having a moddb page. I asked them what the point of it was if the people going to moddb were the ones who did not have a game on steam and I got laughed at and "down voted" into oblivion until my comment was hidden or deleted. It was truly cruel and still makes no sense to me to this very day.

So I'm really hoping for a good modding community for stardeus that is very kind but also very smart so that it never becomes needlessly cruel, bitter, spiteful, resentful, and isolated to an inaccessible place. There definitely needs to be a very high quality strategy and good sense of community for a modding community to not just survive, but also thrive and flourish. Every day, this gets more difficult for all modding communities for all games in the entire world.

It's as if the very world itself wishes to coldly deny anyone escapism from its harsh reality. The walls are closing in.

It's not enough to just casually mod anymore, but instead it is vital we all think many chess moves ahead into the future so that we can simply just play our video games in peace for just a little longer.

I wish everyone the absolute best. I'll check back here every now and then. Maybe someone can bring this thread to the devs attention? (very politely please!) Thank you.


edit: nevermind I am out. no longer interested.

What do you mean ?

He's butt hurt over Paradox being the publisher of the game. One of the other forum posts here is him saying "Paradox?! Ew, I don't want to play it."

That said, if anyone wants to bring up the steam workshop/ mod issue. The Dev has a discord, and he's somewhat active from what I can tell.

Depending on how Paradox and the Dev's contract goes. He might be restricted from creating or allowing a mod-system that isn't attached to Steam Workshop or Paradox's own system.

It's already purchasable on Steam...not here...
Early Access only for Steam?
Just asking ^^

Supposedly it used to be very difficult, but still possible to buy a game on gog and then use completely free community made mods (not made by steam or the developer) from the steam work shop. Supposedly for some games this was very difficult, but for others was completely impossible. Allegedly, supposedly steam fairly recently changed SOMETHING, I'm not sure what, that now supposedly makes it 100% COMPLETELY impossible for ALL games- where a theoretical example person in in a theoretical example situation now absolutely can not use the mods at all unless they go and buy the game on steam. So allegedly- if a game exists on multiple platforms like gog and steam etc. but a person buys the game on gog, but the everyone uploaded their free community made mods to the steam workshop, gog users supposedly can never ever access those mods for the game, so they are stuck playing without mods forever, supposedly.

IF everyone in the whole world uploaded ALL their mods to the steam workshop for a game that exists on many platforms including steam, than only steam users will ever access those mods *supposedly (to the best of my understanding if I am not mistaken)

Which means that if all the mods are on steam, nobody but steam users can use mods. *supposedly (to the best of my understanding if I am not mistaken)

This supposedly means that everyone is forced to go buy all their games on steam, or potentially have no access to any mods ever again unless their modding community is smart enough to intentionally only upload to places that are free and open for anyone to download the mods without restrictions.

Again, I'm not in any way sure of any of this. Do your own research.

Just to be clear this thread is separate from any other thread, and nothing in here has anything to do with anything anywhere else. As for the steam workshop for mods, do you really think paradox would restrict the stardeus dev? That would make me very sad. I hope that isn't true.

That would be fine if it was *actually* the dev's, but it's not *his*, it's *Discord's* !

So yeah, there's a similar issue with Discord : a (closed, outside of the (crawled) Web) platform (and USA-based to boot, which is starting to become an issue in €Urope...) !

----

Hmm, what is this Paradox' system that you are talking about ?

---- You're the one that started this tread, you don't get to tell "do your own research" when you failed to provide any links !

I *could* dig up some years old references to how Steam at some point changed their programming interface to make it impossible to 3rd party tools to download Steam Workshop mods for Steam-unowned games (and then later changed that back and/or these tools managed to find a way to work with the new interface)...

...but, again : you first.

I shared my opinion to the best of my understanding on what I had heard other people on the internet talking about.
I expressed my concern because it appeared to be a more new or recent thing relatively speaking compared to similar things in the past. So, you're telling me that for some reason you are not able or willing to do a simple internet search, and I guess you really really wanted me to know this. Paraphrasing: "I could search it, I'm just not gonna" Okay congratulations. Was I supposed to get annoyed at that or something? Have a nice day.