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Is the original (non point-n-click) version of Police Quest 1 included with the gog bundle? I would much rather play that version as that is the way I played it as a kid. I suppose I could simply download it at abandonia/homeoftheunderdogs and run it though dosbox myself. Just wondering though...
Unfortunately it isn't. The Police Quest collection sold here seems to be based on the collection which Vivendi published in 2006 and it lacks AGI version of Police Quest I. It's a real shame, because it's the only game of the original Police Quest -series* which I don't have. I bought King's Quest and Space Quest collections from GOG just to get AGI versions of the first games and I would have done the same with Police Quest, but unfortunately Activision doesn't currently allow selling of AGI version of Police Quest anywhere.


*I don't count Police Quest: SWAT as part of the original series, because it's not an adventure game like the original four.
@ OlausPetrus
Just to be sure I just downloaded Police Quest : In the Pursuit of Death Angel from Abandonia and ran it though Dosbox. Works just fine just the way I remember it. Well except this time I know how to play poker...
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s23021536: @ OlausPetrus Just to be sure I just downloaded Police Quest : In the Pursuit of Death Angel from Abandonia and ran it though Dosbox. Works just fine just the way I remember it. Well except this time I know how to play poker...
Yep, it's a great game. I finished the Amiga version so many times, that I still remember the story and most puzzles. I'm glad that it worked out for you, but I'm out of luck. I know that I could get if from Abandonia or other similar sites, but unfortunately that's not enough for me. These days I collect classic adventure games. I prefer disc versions when those are available. But if not, then I settle to digital download and sometimes I even got both versions if they offer different extras. I have quite a nice collection of classic adventures in my GOG shelf and abandonware copy just doesn't feel the same as one which I have bought with money. I know it may sound weird, but that's just how I feel about these things.
Post edited October 10, 2012 by OlausPetrus
"*I don't count Police Quest: SWAT as part of the original series, because it's not an adventure game like the original four."

I can understand your opinion. But I will point out that the first SWAT is still known as Police Quest V, in the original installation folder (GOG probably changed this though), and in the credits. Its a bit like Open Season, only being listed as "Police Quest IV" in a few places but not the title screen.

Personally I don't find Open Season to have much in common with the 'original' series. I consider the original series to be those designed by Jim Walls. I consider the 'new' series to be those designed by Daryl F. Gates. Infact the full title of the series when Gates took over became "Daryl F. Gates' Police Quest" (although strangely even in the collections).

As for gameplay, Police Quest V still has more in common with the story driven narratives and adventure-like choices of the earlier Police Quests, than the later games. But its a weird bastardized mix of earlier police quests with Sierra's love of the FMV of Phantasmagoria, and GK2.

On a related note SWAT2 also originally was installed as PQ6, and there are references to such in the game. Other than a few 'adventure-game' esque puzzles, such as the pizza delivery puzzle. It's probably the most removed from any of the previous games in the series as far as gameplay... Only thing that really ties it to the "original series" (I.E. the Jim Walls series), is its inclusion of Sonny Bonds as an element leader character to choose in the game.

On a side note the series has always been marketed as a 'police simulator' (that's a unique genre in and of itself!) even back to the first couple of games in the series. Infact the first one (ega version we are discussing in this thread) was sold to police departments as a 'training/simulation' tool. Interesting articles to read about that in the old Sierra magazines!
Post edited December 20, 2012 by Baggins
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Baggins: "*I don't count Police Quest: SWAT as part of the original series, because it's not an adventure game like the original four."

I can understand your opinion. But I will point out that the first SWAT is still known as Police Quest V, in the original installation folder (GOG probably changed this though), and in the credits. Its a bit like Open Season, only being listed as "Police Quest IV" in a few places but not the title screen.

Personally I don't find Open Season to have much in common with the 'original' series. I consider the original series to be those designed by Jim Walls. I consider the 'new' series to be those designed by Daryl F. Gates. Infact the full title of the series when Gates took over became "Daryl F. Gates' Police Quest" (although strangely even in the collections).

As for gameplay, Police Quest V still has more in common with the story driven narratives and adventure-like choices of the earlier Police Quests, than the later games. But its a weird bastardized mix of earlier police quests with Sierra's love of the FMV of Phantasmagoria, and GK2.

On a related note SWAT2 also originally was installed as PQ6, and there are references to such in the game. Other than a few 'adventure-game' esque puzzles, such as the pizza delivery puzzle. It's probably the most removed from any of the previous games in the series as far as gameplay... Only thing that really ties it to the "original series" (I.E. the Jim Walls series), is its inclusion of Sonny Bonds as an element leader character to choose in the game.

On a side note the series has always been marketed as a 'police simulator' (that's a unique genre in and of itself!) even back to the first couple of games in the series. Infact the first one (ega version we are discussing in this thread) was sold to police departments as a 'training/simulation' tool. Interesting articles to read about that in the old Sierra magazines!
I usually count Open Season as part of PQ series (although it's the red headed stepchild of the series), but I usually count PQ: SWAT and PQ: SWAT2 as part of SWAT series, which dropped PQ title after the first two games. Apparently it wasn't needed anymore when they had established SWAT brand. In similar manner I don't usually count Indiana Jones and the Infernal Machine as sequel to Fate of Atlantis (However I own both games. Unfortunately Infernal Machine really hates my Win7 64bit OS. I think I should install Win95 to virtual machine or something to get it work.).
Post edited December 20, 2012 by OlausPetrus
Police Quest: SWAT and Police Quest: SWAT 2 are both part of two series!

They are the last two of the Police Quest games, and the "Daryl F. Gates' Police Quest" branding. Such were called Police Quest 5 and Police Quest 6 respectively.

But they are also the first parts of the SWAT series, thus SWAT and SWAT 2 respectively.

Yep, they decided to break out of the Police Quest branding and Daryl F. Gates' branding when SWAT began to stand on its own!

Although SWAT 3 was sold in a Police Quest: SWAT compliation once (and another point all the games from 1-6 and SWAT 3 under a SWAT compilation pack in 2000)!

Note the "PQ5" on the back of the SWAT CDCASE (FE maybe stands for Foreign Edition?)!

http://pics.mobygames.com/images/covers/large/1207231658-00.jpg

Also here is the box description from Police Quest Collection Series for "Police Quest V: SWAT" (as its listed):
http://i2.listal.com/image/198521/600full-police-quest%3A-collection-series-screenshot.jpg

This collection was released about the same time as "Police Quest 6"; I.E SWAT 2" (as it was listed).

It's interesting to note that SWAT 5 was described as both 'adventure game" and "tactical simulator", although as the review blurb points out, it plays more like an interactive 'cop show'! in style! But it at least shares the bluescreen FMV also used to lower quality in PQ4 as well!

As for Indiana jones, they are all part of the greater 'Indiana jones universe'! Even Infernal Machine is part of the greater series! It's just a different game genre! Although it has a character from FOA, its not really a 'direct sequel'...
Post edited December 20, 2012 by Baggins
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Baggins: Police Quest: SWAT and Police Quest: SWAT 2 are both part of two series!
I know, but like I said it's just how I feel. I'm pure-blooded adventure gamer and these PQ: SWAT games just feel too different compared to first 4 for me to consider them as part of the same series. To me SWAT feels more like spin-off series which happens in the same game universe. Latest collections also have made this distinction and didn't include any of the SWAT titles and in similar manner most SWAT collections don't have PQ adventure games.
Post edited December 20, 2012 by OlausPetrus
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Baggins: Police Quest: SWAT and Police Quest: SWAT 2 are both part of two series!
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OlausPetrus: I know, but like I said it's just how I feel. I'm pure-blooded adventure gamer and these PQ: SWAT games just feel too different compared to first 4 for me to consider them as part of the same series. To me SWAT feels more like spin-off series which happens in the same game universe. Latest collections also have made this distinction and didn't include any of the SWAT titles and in similar manner most SWAT collections don't have PQ adventure games.
I think for me, the 'too different' feeling came when SWAT 2 was released.

SWAT 1 felt pretty much like all the Sierra FMV adventure games at the time to me :p... Although with a more simplified inventory system... It still maintained much of the 2D adventure charm. Maybe felt closer to style of other FMV adventures like Journeyman project that had some 'random' solutions based on your choices. Especially the first Journeyman project. In graphical style there are alot in common between Open Season and SWAT between FMV/bluescreen stuff, and actual Los Angeles screenshots and locations.

SWAT 2 on the other hand... It's more non-linear, its based on alot of element of luck. There is not main character to play as, but you are charge of bunch of 'units' like a RTS game such as WARCRAFT.... I felt it completely turned away from the "direct' control of a person in the field like the previous five games. SWAT3 at least brought back the direct involvement aspect! But SWAT 3 is nothing like SWAT 2 or original SWAT.

Well, "later collections' arguement doesn't really work exactly. Depends on how late you want to get! LIke I mentioned in 2000 all the games Police Quest 1-3, SWAT, SWAT2, and Swat3 were all released under a single collection, "SWAT Career Pack"!

Ya, I suppose in 2003 and 2006 respectively they split the collections between
"Police Quest: SWAT Compilation" and "Police Quest: Behind the Badge" collections.

Now, we have GOG who splits them as Police Quest: 1+2+3+4, and Police Quest: SWAT 1+2, and then separates SWAT3 as its own series! When they put Sierra's Quest games together as a 'compilation' collection for the Christmas sale, they included both Police Quest packs, but not the SWAT3! In previous sales for series compilations, they put both Police Quest packs together, but left out SWAT 3. So that seems that they focus more on the "Police Quest" than the "SWAT" title.

I'm at least happy they didn't split the games as PQ 1+2, PQ 3+4, PQ 5+6, or PQ 1+2+3, and PQ 4+5+6 like they split the Space and King's Quests, or worse split each game separately like they did with Phantas and Gabriel Knight, and thus milked the series for all they are worth ;). Still these collections need their missing games...I'm really glad they didn't split the Quest For Glory series into multiple collections!
Post edited December 20, 2012 by Baggins
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s23021536: Is the original (non point-n-click) version of Police Quest 1 included with the gog bundle? I would much rather play that version as that is the way I played it as a kid. I suppose I could simply download it at abandonia/homeoftheunderdogs and run it though dosbox myself. Just wondering though...
the orginal AGI engined/EGA text phaser based version is now included in the pack
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s23021536: Is the original (non point-n-click) version of Police Quest 1 included with the gog bundle? I would much rather play that version as that is the way I played it as a kid. I suppose I could simply download it at abandonia/homeoftheunderdogs and run it though dosbox myself. Just wondering though...
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DCT: the orginal AGI engined/EGA text phaser based version is now included in the pack
Cool, but they need to update the main webpage for the game to mention that fact. Or there will be continued confusion.
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DCT: the orginal AGI engined/EGA text phaser based version is now included in the pack
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Baggins: Cool, but they need to update the main webpage for the game to mention that fact. Or there will be continued confusion.
well that will probley happen when the web team get back remember it's still the weekend
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Baggins: Cool, but they need to update the main webpage for the game to mention that fact. Or there will be continued confusion.
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DCT: well that will probley happen when the web team get back remember it's still the weekend
Well, they haven't updated yet.
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DCT: well that will probley happen when the web team get back remember it's still the weekend
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Baggins: Well, they haven't updated yet.
Well then no idea why it hasn't been updated then,maybe it's just something they overlooked or just a dumb mistake/dumb move on their part much like the whole removed SVGA version of Larry 6.