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Posted April 20, 2011
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nondeplumage: Wrong. Read a EULA more carefully next time.

Here's one for your perusal:

http://www.rockstargames.com/eula
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orcishgamer: Yes, read your illegal (in the US) contract of adhesion more carefully next time. Also, make sure to goosestep while marching!
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Grimdango: When my car breaks down, I just steal a new one...
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orcishgamer: Funny, I just fire up my 3D printer and make a new one.
Not to mention that the illegal contract in question doesn't even explicitly ban the method that nondeplumage thinks it does.
Posted April 20, 2011
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Grimdango: When my car breaks down, I just steal a new one...
Good one.....
Posted April 20, 2011
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Grimdango: When my car breaks down, I just steal a new one...
Oh, the car analogy. I LOVE the car analogy.

I swear if people could they would download the shit out of cars. I know I would.
Post edited April 20, 2011 by Kaidane
Posted April 20, 2011
I think its ok. For example with blizzard you can just register the cd key with them and you can download the game. The disc is basically just the box the game you bought comes in.
Posted April 20, 2011
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Grimdango: When my car breaks down, I just steal a new one...
Well, I could never steal a car, but I'd download one if I could and had the license for it.
Posted April 20, 2011
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eyeball226: There's nothing illegal about it. If I was to pirate a game via a torrent, it wouldn't be illegal because I got it via a torrent. In fact how I got it would be irrelevant, the thing that makes it illegal is the fact I don't have the license.
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nondeplumage: Wrong. Read a EULA more carefully next time.

Here's one for your perusal:

http://www.rockstargames.com/eula
The point I was trying to make is that torrents are not illegal, using software you don't own is.

Read my post more carefully next time.
Posted April 20, 2011
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nondeplumage: Wrong. Read a EULA more carefully next time.

Here's one for your perusal:

http://www.rockstargames.com/eula
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eyeball226: The point I was trying to make is that torrents are not illegal, using software you don't own is.

Read my post more carefully next time.
Not to mention that no possible reading of your post contradicts that EULA.

I will beat this dead horse until there's an apology or a fine horse-paste for supper.
Posted April 20, 2011
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eyeball226: The point I was trying to make is that torrents are not illegal, using software you don't own is.

Read my post more carefully next time.
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GhostQlyph: Not to mention that no possible reading of your post contradicts that EULA.

I will beat this dead horse until there's an apology or a fine horse-paste for supper.
Someone should bring that dead horse pic in here and put EULAS are always legally binding on it or something.

Also btw thanks for all the replies, even the semi-flaming ones. I can't wait to see what comes of this come time to "close" the thread.
Post edited April 20, 2011 by GameRager
Posted April 20, 2011
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Grimdango: When my car breaks down, I just steal a new one...
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Kaidane: Oh, the car analogy. I LOVE the car analogy.

I swear if people could they would download the shit out of cars. I know I would.
Someone using the car analogy is practically the Godwin's Law of piracy debates... :P
Posted April 20, 2011
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Grimdango: When my car breaks down, I just steal a new one...
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Kaidane: Oh, the car analogy. I LOVE the car analogy.

I swear if people could they would download the shit out of cars. I know I would.
Don't wait, spend some time looking at Maker forums and 3D printing. You will be able to download cars and it won't be illegal (car designs are not protected by copyright, neither are clothing designs, for that matter, check out video game industry revenues compared to clothing industry sometime).
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Kaidane: Oh, the car analogy. I LOVE the car analogy.

I swear if people could they would download the shit out of cars. I know I would.
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eyeball226: Someone using the car analogy is practically the Godwin's Law of piracy debates... :P
And makes less sense, usually.
Post edited April 20, 2011 by orcishgamer
Posted April 20, 2011
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Kaidane: Oh, the car analogy. I LOVE the car analogy.

I swear if people could they would download the shit out of cars. I know I would.
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orcishgamer: Don't wait, spend some time looking at Maker forums and 3D printing. You will be able to download cars and it won't be illegal (car designs are not protected by copyright, neither are clothing designs, for that matter, check out video game industry revenues compared to clothing industry sometime).
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eyeball226: Someone using the car analogy is practically the Godwin's Law of piracy debates... :P
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orcishgamer: And makes less sense, usually.
QFT. Have a +1.
Posted April 20, 2011
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eyeball226: Someone using the car analogy is practically the Godwin's Law of piracy debates... :P
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orcishgamer: And makes less sense, usually.
QFT.

EDIT: Ninja'd by GhostQlyph! :O
Post edited April 20, 2011 by eyeball226
Posted April 20, 2011
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When buying software for the Commodore 64 (going back a bit) when you ran some software it specifically told you to make a backup. I've always gone by that and the belief that if you paid for something you can make as many backups as you want as long as they are only for your use.

I did something recently that follows this belief. I bought a game online that I had no intention of playing as a gift for my brother. Unfortunately it got tied to an account and because he can't download much he couldn't use it. So I download the same game as a torrent with a crack so he can play the game without downloading. I haven't download the original bought game or played the other version so to me one person bought the game and one person is using it.

The same thing happens if I own a game but can't find the disc and it isn't on Steam or GoG. I'll download it off a torrent because otherwise I can't play a game I legally own. I also downloaded a book for my Kindle I own in paperback form. I believe in supporting creators so that means buying a legal copy. Once I have that legal copy I believe I have to right to do what it takes to be able to play it.
Posted April 20, 2011
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amcdermo: When buying software for the Commodore 64 (going back a bit) when you ran some software it specifically told you to make a backup. I've always gone by that and the belief that if you paid for something you can make as many backups as you want as long as they are only for your use.

I did something recently that follows this belief. I bought a game online that I had no intention of playing as a gift for my brother. Unfortunately it got tied to an account and because he can't download much he couldn't use it. So I download the same game as a torrent with a crack so he can play the game without downloading. I haven't download the original bought game or played the other version so to me one person bought the game and one person is using it.

The same thing happens if I own a game but can't find the disc and it isn't on Steam or GoG. I'll download it off a torrent because otherwise I can't play a game I legally own. I also downloaded a book for my Kindle I own in paperback form. I believe in supporting creators so that means buying a legal copy. Once I have that legal copy I believe I have to right to do what it takes to be able to play it.
This is the correct motorcycle, guys.

Have a +1.
Posted April 20, 2011
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My copy of Quest for Glory Anthology got cracked. Not sure how, I always kept it in the case, but I have to assume it got tossed around by the movers when they were packing things up (And stealing my $600 DSLR and $600 nav system which I never got reimbursed for). I have a ISO of QFG anthology to replace it, while still retaining the original disc + manual.

However, I also had a copy of Leisure Suit Larry collection that was destroyed. I replaced it with that shitty Vivendi re-release version, but it wasn't the same, so I downloaded the original DOS releases. Note that I never had the LSL 6 talkie version. Had I downloaded the talkie version, I would have been in the wrong since I never legitimately paid for that version.

Of course, there are those that will say you are fully contributing to piracy by using bit torrent and providing others with the game that didn't legitimately purchase it. I don't seed torrents of games and shut them off asap, but some will still look down on you for it.
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