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Posted October 27, 2011
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JMich: You mean what Ctrl-Click currently does?
Ooh, exactly that.
Good, now I don't even need the tweaker, thanks :)
Posted October 27, 2011
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bladeofBG: (1a) I like the way my firewall & other protections work w/my PC on XP. What I don't like is having to register with companies I don't trust, which is what I think I'd have to do with Win7. I'd rather juss wait for a way to work around it, juss to spite them for spiting my freedom.
Wait what? you're saying the reason you don't want to switch to 7 is because you want to use your own firewall and AV? You do know that the bundled ones from MS are optional right? as in you can use your own if you want right? right?
Posted October 27, 2011
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bladeofBG: (1a) I like the way my firewall & other protections work w/my PC on XP. What I don't like is having to register with companies I don't trust, which is what I think I'd have to do with Win7. I'd rather juss wait for a way to work around it, juss to spite them for spiting my freedom.
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wodmarach: Wait what? you're saying the reason you don't want to switch to 7 is because you want to use your own firewall and AV? You do know that the bundled ones from MS are optional right? as in you can use your own if you want right? right?
I do wonder how much longer that's going to be the case. The reason they've been optional was antitrust concerns, but with MS forceably bundling IE again, I wonder if they're going to do the same thing with MSE.
Posted October 27, 2011
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wodmarach: Wait what? you're saying the reason you don't want to switch to 7 is because you want to use your own firewall and AV? You do know that the bundled ones from MS are optional right? as in you can use your own if you want right? right?
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hedwards: I do wonder how much longer that's going to be the case. The reason they've been optional was antitrust concerns, but with MS forceably bundling IE again, I wonder if they're going to do the same thing with MSE.
Did you see what that articles whole point was? "I changed an option removed IE and reinstalled it.. AND IT KEPT MY OPTION!!!11one" no seriously thats how he proved it. Trident has been an integral part of windows since win98 thats never changed all removing IE has ever done is removed the UI for trident that let it be a browser.
Posted October 27, 2011
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hedwards: I do wonder how much longer that's going to be the case. The reason they've been optional was antitrust concerns, but with MS forceably bundling IE again, I wonder if they're going to do the same thing with MSE.
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wodmarach: Did you see what that articles whole point was? "I changed an option removed IE and reinstalled it.. AND IT KEPT MY OPTION!!!11one" no seriously thats how he proved it. Trident has been an integral part of windows since win98 thats never changed all removing IE has ever done is removed the UI for trident that let it be a browser.
*coughmetrocough*
Posted October 27, 2011
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wodmarach: Did you see what that articles whole point was? "I changed an option removed IE and reinstalled it.. AND IT KEPT MY OPTION!!!11one" no seriously thats how he proved it. Trident has been an integral part of windows since win98 thats never changed all removing IE has ever done is removed the UI for trident that let it be a browser.
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hedwards: *coughmetrocough*
yeah metro uses trident your point being? seriously does nobody understand the difference between a rendering engine and an application anymore >.<
Posted October 27, 2011
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hedwards: *coughmetrocough*
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wodmarach: yeah metro uses trident your point being? seriously does nobody understand the difference between a rendering engine and an application anymore >.<
My point is that it's still an abusive practice regardless of how you justify it.

I can't help but notice that you gloss over the fact that Trident is the rendering engine for MSIE and that the reason it was integrated like that in the first place was as an attempt to get away with illegally tying the browser to the OS.
Posted October 27, 2011
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wodmarach: yeah metro uses trident your point being? seriously does nobody understand the difference between a rendering engine and an application anymore >.<
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hedwards: My point is that it's still an abusive practice regardless of how you justify it.

I can't help but notice that you gloss over the fact that Trident is the rendering engine for MSIE and that the reason it was integrated like that in the first place was as an attempt to get away with illegally tying the browser to the OS.
Yes it's the rendering engine used by IE I even mention trident isn't deleted when you uninstall IE (so wheres this gloss you speak of?) but saying it's not allowed is like telling Linux distros they're not allowed to use X anymore unless they use a specific WM. The DOJ never banned them from using Trident hell the antitrust case wasn't even about freaking trident it was about putting IE on the install disc and offering huge discounts if you installed windows on all systems. Even the EU doesn't try to force them away from Trident.
Isn't forcing MS away from open standards a worse idea?
Post edited October 27, 2011 by wodmarach
Posted October 27, 2011
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hedwards: I wonder if they're going to do the same thing with MSE.
There won't be a MSE package for Windows 8. Every feature of it will be integrated into Windows Defender.
Posted October 27, 2011
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bladeofBG: (1a) I like the way my firewall & other protections work w/my PC on XP. What I don't like is having to register with companies I don't trust, which is what I think I'd have to do with Win7. I'd rather juss wait for a way to work around it, juss to spite them for spiting my freedom.
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wodmarach: Wait what? you're saying the reason you don't want to switch to 7 is because you want to use your own firewall and AV? You do know that the bundled ones from MS are optional right? as in you can use your own if you want right? right?
I know it's optional with Win7 as well; my 1st point in that sentence was I don't feel the need to upgrade, as I'm well protected already. My 2nd point was that I don't want to register with Microsoft (the same way as I also refused to register w/Bioware, even in their 'pre-merger with EA' days).
Posted October 27, 2011
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bladeofBG: I know it's optional with Win7 as well; my 1st point in that sentence was I don't feel the need to upgrade, as I'm well protected already. My 2nd point was that I don't want to register with Microsoft (the same way as I also refused to register w/Bioware, even in their 'pre-merger with EA' days).
'Registering' with MS for Win7 is no different than with XP.

Anyway, I have Win7 Pro 64 bit on one rig and WinXP Home on the other. They both work just fine for me.
Posted October 27, 2011
I still don't see any reason for switching from XP to something else. And please don't start that Direct X bull, it's all marketing.
Posted October 27, 2011
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lettmon: I still don't see any reason for switching from XP to something else. And please don't start that Direct X bull, it's all marketing.
No, it is not. ;)
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