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TheJoe: I personally use Arch, because I like a desktop that I have total control of. You might not be comfortable with setting up your own desktop environment, though (Arch by default only comes with a package manager and a compiler).
Thanks for mentioning another Linux OS. The trouble i had with ubuntu was getting graphics drivers installed.

Which linux is most compatible and easiest to get graphics drivers installed?
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TheJoe: Don't be silly. All it represents is the beginning of a hegemonic shift, because very few people are going to enjoy Windows 8, unfortunately.
Like, it will really be the year of Linux? :D
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TheJoe: Unless the composition disable hack still works in the final version of 8, if you intend to play GOG games, do not upgrade.
Well it looks like every hack having to do with tweaking or disabling Aero has been removed in the release preview. Final will probably be the same.
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TheJoe: Unless the composition disable hack still works in the final version of 8, if you intend to play GOG games, do not upgrade.
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MikeMaximus: Well it looks like every hack having to do with tweaking or disabling Aero has been removed in the release preview. Final will probably be the same.
The more legacy crap they remove, the better, in my opinion. VMs will always be here if we really need something old.
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TheJoe: Don't be silly. All it represents is the beginning of a hegemonic shift, because very few people are going to enjoy Windows 8, unfortunately.
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Elenarie: Like, it will really be the year of Linux? :D
It certainly won't be the year of Windows :P
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OmegaX: It certainly won't be the year of Windows :P
It has never been, afaik. :D I've never seen someone mention the year of Windows / OSX, though I've seen many people talking about the year of Linux.

Sadly, I've not seen the year of BSD mentioned too. :D
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TheJoe: Don't be silly. All it represents is the beginning of a hegemonic shift, because very few people are going to enjoy Windows 8, unfortunately.
Seven will still be there for several years... and IMO if there is any significant shift it will be toward Mac or could based solution rather than toward linux.
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TheJoe: Don't be silly. All it represents is the beginning of a hegemonic shift, because very few people are going to enjoy Windows 8, unfortunately.
Oh horse hockey. Linux has been having it's year on the desktop longer than some of GOG's users have been alive. Win8 is nothing in the grand scheme of things most people I know who have actually you know tried it for more than 30 seconds are thinking of moving to it because they actually like it's new features!
Win8 is not going to change anything no matter what some people claim. People who bought computers 2-4 years ago will be upgrading soon and because 99% of the population don't build their own systems they will be getting Win8.

So basicly don't talk crap Valve is going Linux purely because they smell an untouched market and think they can get a little of the money by getting in as the only game in town not because they think they can destroy the status quo
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OmegaX: It certainly won't be the year of Windows :P
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Elenarie: It has never been, afaik. :D I've never seen someone mention the year of Windows / OSX, though I've seen many people talking about the year of Linux.

Sadly, I've not seen the year of BSD mentioned too. :D
MS sure thinks otherwise because they are pushing Windows 8 on every device available: tablets, smartphones, xbox...
Linux already had its moment in the public light thanks to Android but people don't even notice. Personally, I'm glad Steam will be ported to Linux because that means I'll have at the very least some Source games to play on my Linux partition. I don't delude myself thinking that Steam is all that's needed to make Linux relevant on the desktop though.
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TheJoe: I personally use Arch, because I like a desktop that I have total control of. You might not be comfortable with setting up your own desktop environment, though (Arch by default only comes with a package manager and a compiler).
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gameon: Thanks for mentioning another Linux OS. The trouble i had with ubuntu was getting graphics drivers installed.

Which linux is most compatible and easiest to get graphics drivers installed?
Well I think Arch is the easiest. When I want to install my graphics drivers I just install the 'nvidia' package, run 'nvidia-xconfig' and then reboot. But with Arch you have to remember that you don't start with anything but a bare command line with a package manager and a compiler. You'll have to get online (if you're on wifi this can be tricky) and install all the necessary packages for a desktop.

The Arch Wiki is possibly one of the most comprehensive pieces of documentation on desktop Linux, however, and if there's a package you want to configure, the Arch Wiki will tell you how to do it.

But if you don't understand the basic concepts of Linux, you won't have much fun with Arch. I first used Ubuntu back in 2006 but I still didn't fully grasp the Linux concepts until a few months after I picked up Arch in 2009. It takes time and patience if you want to learn. I also didn't acquire the skills completely on my own - I have friends both online and off who are interested in Linux and we've all been exchanging skills.

I didn't install the nvidia drivers on Mint, but I can't see it being a problem since Mint tries - just as Ubuntu does - to be an average user's desktop. You might want to try the LiveCD; it's fully featured and you can install as many packages as will fit in your RAM.

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wodmarach: So basicly don't talk crap Valve is going Linux purely because they smell an untouched market and think they can get a little of the money by getting in as the only game in town not because they think they can destroy the status quo
I didn't. I said Steam is coming to Linux in a few months, and this move represents the beginning of a hegemonic shift. Remember to read and think before replying. I even bolded the word 'beginning' to make it easier for you.
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Elenarie: The more legacy crap they remove, the better, in my opinion. VMs will always be here if we really need something old.
I agree, legacy features need to be removed eventually. It's not a problem for technical users, who already dual boot and use VMs. But it's going to be a pain for the general user, and GoG themselves, especially if Windows 8 does better than everyone thinks it will.
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TheJoe: But if you don't understand the basic concepts of Linux, you won't have much fun with Arch. I first used Ubuntu back in 2006 but I still didn't fully grasp the Linux concepts until a few months after I picked up Arch in 2009. It takes time and patience if you want to learn. I also didn't acquire the skills completely on my own - I have friends both online and off who are interested in Linux and we've all been exchanging skills.

I didn't install the nvidia drivers on Mint, but I can't see it being a problem since Mint tries - just as Ubuntu does - to be an average user's desktop. You might want to try the LiveCD; it's fully featured and you can install as many packages as will fit in your RAM.
Thats the main issue, i have no idea about how to install certain essentials. The installing is nowhere near as easy as windows.

But thanks for the info, and i also like the fact that linux can be in 64bit. If thats any advantage over 32bit right now.
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wodmarach: So basicly don't talk crap Valve is going Linux purely because they smell an untouched market and think they can get a little of the money by getting in as the only game in town not because they think they can destroy the status quo
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TheJoe: I didn't. I said Steam is coming to Linux in a few months, and this move represents the beginning of a hegemonic shift. Remember to read and think before replying. I even bolded the word 'beginning' to make it easier for you.
And like I said it's the beginning of sweet F. A. Nothing has changed in reality just Valve has run out of windows based gamers to expand into.
Post edited July 12, 2012 by wodmarach
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wodmarach: So basicly don't talk crap Valve is going Linux purely because they smell an untouched market and think they can get a little of the money by getting in as the only game in town not because they think they can destroy the status quo
You say that, but Valve does have the power to single handedly cripple Windows as a gaming platform by simply refusing to support Windows 8. And if they sense that Microsoft is trying to edge them out of the market, they can simply support only up to Windows 7 and gamers will stay with Windows 7.

Whether this would be a wise business decision or not remains to be seen, but for better or worse, Valve has the power to dictate how PC gaming is shaped.
Post edited July 12, 2012 by jamyskis
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jamyskis: Whether this would be a wise business decision or not remains to be seen, but for better or worse, Valve has the power to dictate how PC gaming is shaped.
Hell no.

Steam would last ~12-18 months at most until win9 was released, most people don't build their own systems and if they are told it's Win8 or something they've never heard of they'll go win8. And when they find out steam doesn't work and it's Valves fault... well it wouldn't be good on the hate mail front... Valve can't afford to alienate the casuals especially with xbox integration and the windows app store making games easily available to casuals without having to bother with steam.