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You mean politically correct people? yeah they're annoying.
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Thunderstone: So what brought this topic on, or did you feel like just feel like venting?
Borderlands 2 thing.
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Thunderstone: So what brought this topic on, or did you feel like just feel like venting?
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StingingVelvet: Borderlands 2 thing.
What's up with Borderlands 2?

(at first I thought you were referring to the Cheetahmen 2/AVGN scandle with your topic.)
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StingingVelvet: Borderlands 2 thing.
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Thunderstone: What's up with Borderlands 2?

(at first I thought you were referring to the Cheetahmen 2/AVGN scandle with your topic.)
http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2012/08/13/borderlands-girlfriend-mode/
What Cheetahmen2/AVGN scandal? Were people actually white knighting for Cheetahmen 2?
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Nergal01: What Cheetahmen2/AVGN scandal? Were people actually white knighting for Cheetahmen 2?
Well, you see here the AVGN a few days ago appeared in a commericial for a kickstarter project called Cheetahmen 2: The lost levels: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L7xuzR7ewM0
For $65,000, Greg Pabich wants to re-release Cheetahmen 2 with the boss glitch fixed so people can "enjoy" all 6 levels of suck and fill his own pocket. There are lots of youtube videos calling the nerd out for going along with this nonsense as well as explaining why this project is a waste of money.
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Thunderstone: Well, you see here the AVGN a few days ago appeared in a commericial for a kickstarter project called Cheetahmen 2: The lost levels: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L7xuzR7ewM0
For $65,000, Greg Pabich wants to re-release Cheetahmen 2 with the boss glitch fixed so people can "enjoy" all 6 levels of suck and fill his own pocket. There are lots of youtube videos calling the nerd out for going along with this nonsense as well as explaining why this project is a waste of money.
Thx.

Yeah, I wouldn't be spending any money on that. Never cared about this and I'm not enough of an NES geek to be actually interested in this or any of the merchandise products (seriousyl? Merchandising?!) . But the project does possess a kind of insanity that is both kinda ballsy and outrageous in its own way. >_>
Post edited August 13, 2012 by Nergal01
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Thunderstone: What's up with Borderlands 2?

(at first I thought you were referring to the Cheetahmen 2/AVGN scandle with your topic.)
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Profanity: http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2012/08/13/borderlands-girlfriend-mode/
Haha, briefly reminded me of:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4xhdPmu2dEA
I have to ask, if I don't belong to group X, and I feel group X is getting unfairly treated, how can I respond without being a white knight?

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Thunderstone: White Knights and fanboys are two of the leading causes of smug on the internet. From my experience, fanboys and white knights are often one and the same as they zealously defend their idol from constructive critisism.

I think you guys might like this video: The Cycle of Commentating <snip>

So what brought this topic on, or did you feel like just feel like venting?
I've been increasingly suspicious of "fanboy" accusations lately. When you call someone a fanboy, how do I know it's because of the target's overzealousness and not simply because he likes something you don't like?
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Aaron86: I've been increasingly suspicious of "fanboy" accusations lately. When you call someone a fanboy, how do I know it's because of the target's overzealousness and not simply because he likes something you don't like?
Yeah, I for one think that calling Licurg a fanboy would totally be an overkill.
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Aaron86: I've been increasingly suspicious of "fanboy" accusations lately. When you call someone a fanboy, how do I know it's because of the target's overzealousness and not simply because he likes something you don't like?
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Fenixp: Yeah, I for one think that calling Licurg a fanboy would totally be an overkill.
Grrrr....
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Aaron86: I have to ask, if I don't belong to group X, and I feel group X is getting unfairly treated, how can I respond without being a white knight?
It's the overzealous nature of the protection in the face of pretty minor (if bad at all) infractions that classify a white night. If I saw real sexism or racism you can bet your ass I would act in some way.
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Aaron86: I have to ask, if I don't belong to group X, and I feel group X is getting unfairly treated, how can I respond without being a white knight?

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Thunderstone: White Knights and fanboys are two of the leading causes of smug on the internet. From my experience, fanboys and white knights are often one and the same as they zealously defend their idol from constructive critisism.

I think you guys might like this video: The Cycle of Commentating <snip>

So what brought this topic on, or did you feel like just feel like venting?
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Aaron86: I've been increasingly suspicious of "fanboy" accusations lately. When you call someone a fanboy, how do I know it's because of the target's overzealousness and not simply because he likes something you don't like?
^This. I mean, sure, overzealous fanboyism and white knight...ism is a thing, but just as often it's a tool used against people who are legitimately defending things for non-stupid reasons. Like they like it. Or they care.

Also, maybe it's just me, but that is an incredibly stupid controversy with the Borderlands thing. If anything, it seems like a way of getting more people to buy the day-one class DLC (grr) by marketing at insecure people & newbs.
Oh, wow. I know exactly what the problem is.
A stereotype had developed into a notion, the notion was used as a mental short-hand (to conjure relevant connotations) by some guy... and people were outraged by the demeaning nature of the denotation... which was likely never intended for consideration in the first place.

That 's like person A saying that person C is dressed like Santa Claus and person B sternly reminding him that Santa Claus doesn't exist and therefore no one can be dressed like him.
Nonsense - you can be dressed as Santa without him existing; you can have girlfriend mode without girlfriends needing it. As long as we are not labeling any particular person with this nor claiming that such people exist, this notion merely lives in the confines of our minds. It constitutes an archetype, a figure of speech, a generalized idea that only those foolish or whimsical would dare apply to reality.

Oh - as for "white knights" and "fanboys" - I dislike the terms, as they are often used against those who try to bring sanity and respect back into discussions. I loathe the idea that the proper approach to anything should be either apathy or hatred.
Of course - if there are people who blow things out of proportions and see harm and malice where there is none, I would consider them silly... though their hearts are in the right place, at the very least. Selflessness is a noble thing, you know.
Post edited August 13, 2012 by Vestin
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Vestin: Oh - as for "white knights" and "fanboys" - I dislike the terms, as they are often used against those who try to bring sanity and respect back into discussions. I loathe the idea that the proper approach to anything should be either apathy or hatered.

Of course - if there are people who blow things out of proportions and see harm and malice where there is none, I would consider them silly... though their hearts are in the right place, at the very least. Selflessness is a noble thing, you know.
Agree and agree